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sourdough
Apr 30, 2012

Mingus Dew posted:

That said, I WAS dumb enough to start the Titans D. I think from now on I'm just streaming whoever's playing Jacksonville.

Might want to check how Miami did this week.

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Mingus Dew
Dec 30, 2013

Finally, a good reason to punch a teenager in the face!

RVProfootballer posted:

Might want to check how Miami did this week.

Yeah, I know, I know. But apparently that was all Ndamukong Suh's fault. :smith:

drizzle
Jul 7, 2004

The world is a fine place and worth the fighting for and I hate very much to leave it.

Mingus Dew posted:

To every one who talked me out of Mariota: THANK YOU. Can't believe I was so dumb. That said, I WAS dumb enough to start the Titans D. I think from now on I'm just streaming whoever's playing Jacksonville.

After last week, would it be a good idea to bench Jeremy Maclin for Larry Fitzgerald going forward? Palmer and Fitz still have that dynamic and last week more or less showed it.

The bears have the worst secondary in the league by far so let that factor into your decision

Kingtheninja
Jul 29, 2004

"You're the best looking guy here."
Any generally available RB's to look for on waivers this week? I'm trying for Starks but I won't get him, looking for anyone else I might be able to snag. Damien Williams maybe?

RCarr
Dec 24, 2007

Matt Jones if he's not owned already.

Forever_Peace
May 7, 2007

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FP Week 2 Waiver Wire Rankings. Assuming a ppr league. Cutoff for eligibility is 50% ownership in Yahoo leagues, so if there's any Woodheads or Moncriefs etc still languishing out there in your league, go get em first.

Receivers
Crabtree – Maybe Oakland is not awful this year?!?!! We’re starting to see glimpses of what made Crabtree a first overall pick. Current stat line is nearly identical to Hopkins’. 24 targets (5th) for 14 catches with 148 yards and a touchdown. Importantly, I think the nature of his targets really speaks volumes – they feel comfortable throwing to him on third downs and even threw to Crabtree on a fourth and one last week against CIN (which he converted). His target share has also increased over the course of games to peak in the third and fourth quarters. Maybe OAK is awful after all, but Crabtree could be a very useful ppr guy.

Perriman – Still one of my top targets. Same story as last week – he’s a talented and speedy receiver taken in the first round by a team that desperately needs guys to throw to (this week it was Crockett Gilmore who stepped up, but nobody thinks that’s a pace he will sustain through the season). Flacco has a cannon arm and loves throwing the ball deep, and I think the blazing-fast Perriman is a more likely beneficiary than 36-year-old Steve Smith (who has looked great, but isn’t really a speedster any more).

Marvin Jones - Resumed his WR2 spot opposite Green. Expecting numbers similar to Sanu last year is not unreasonable. Though one big difference is they love to use Jones in the red zone. He’s efficient and has reliable hands – in 2013 he had one of the biggest proportion of red zone looks of any receiver in the league.

Beasley – Purely a ppr add. The offense will not be great with Romo out, but the only guys to get more than one target from Weeden were Dunbar and Beasley. I think that could be indicative of what the offense is going to look like going forward – short, easy passes in the field, lots of running the ball, and TE plays in the red zone.

Washington – 19 targets for 168 yards sounds impressive, but the Texans have been throwing the ball like there’s no tomorrow. I would too if my running backs were Alfred Blue and Chris Polk (Football Outsiders “Worst Running Back of the Week”). Expect a big drop when Foster comes back. But who knows – if you’re lucky he could post a 900-1000 yard season (he’s done it before).

Benjamin – Somehow, on seven targets, Travis has 207 yards and 3 touchdowns. Also returns kicks though, so in return leagues you might as well pick him up.

Lockett – Return specialist. Don’t pick him up unless your league gives 1 per 25 or better.

Others: Rishard Matthews, Hankerson, Ginn Jr.

Running Backs
Freeman – Coleman looks great but is out with a cracked rib. Could be a multi-week injury depending on pain tolerance. Matt Ryan is pretty good at keeping defenses honest, which could open up some running room for Freeman. I like him if you need a quick plug-and-play, but for long term value I’d go elsewhere (Coleman looked the better runner when he was in).

Dion Lewis– Lewis looked fantastic on Sunday. They kept him in as an every-down back, gave him plenty of targets and runs, and he even got a few red zone looks. Despite Belichick’s emphasis on not fumbling, Lewis has now continued getting volume despite fumbling twice, which could mean something (or it could mean nothing because in the nihilistic world of Belichick everything is meaningless). I think he could be a really valuable ppr asset for the season. HOWEVER, all the usual caveats of owning a Belichick back apply. Blount wasn’t in the game plan because the Bills are pretty good at stopping the run up the middle. Is Blount only going to see two snaps against IND? Probably not. Only pick him up if you’re confident you can handle the stress of figuring out the probable game plan each week (much like we did with Vereen).

Dunbar – I’m sold. He’s Vereen with a better offensive line. They love using him when going to a tempo offense, and Weeden appeared to feel comfortable throwing to him. He’s the #1 add in ppr if you want long-term value and don’t want to bother with a Patriots back.

Matt Jones – Looked great in the timeshare with Morris. This team has been running a lot (despite the time share this week, Morris leads the league in attempts), and this could be a productive 1a/1b type situation. I don’t think Morris’ job is in danger or anything, but if anything should happen to him, Jones could be a high RB2.

Ronnie – Rumor has it that CJA is on thin ice. It’s possible that I just kind of want Ronnie to take over from CJA at this point so that we could have a little clarity, but regardless of whether it’s CJA or Ronnie at the helm, I can’t help but think Denver is going to have to move more towards the Peyton system and away from the Kubiak system as the season goes on. It’s pretty clear which one is the more effective offense with this personnel group. Ronnie has the highest upside of any back with a reasonable shot at starting snaps at the moment, so he’s worth an add (especially in standard) if your depth is great and you just want a high-risk-high-reward type guy.

Karlos Williams – McCoy looked good against the pats, but Karlos has looked fantastic on really limited snaps. I see this purely as an injury stash – I don’t think McCoy is in any danger of straight up losing his role. BUT, he is already banged up and has an elevated risk of aggravating the existing issue. If he does, Karlos looks like he can bang.

Lorenzo Taliaferro (“Zo”) – Back from injury and looks great. The injury stash behind Forsett. More to the point, the injury stash behind a great run-blocking line. Bumped him ahead of Khiry this week.

Khiry – Also an injury stash, but the lack of clarity on Brees makes me concerned for the offense. More than capable of filling in for Ingram if anything happens to him.

David Johnson – Looks great on very limited volume. Could be productive in a timeshare. But Arians is pretty clear that he doesn’t trust rookies to be the bellcow. He’s adamant that CJ?K be the lead guy while Ellington is out (and Ellington should resume his role as RB1 when he returns). Maybe DJ pushes for a more equitable share, but his ceiling is capped for now.

Duke – Still like his long-term outlook. Crowell is the better runner but Duke has nice ppr potential if they ever bother to get him involved.

Starks – Lacy isn’t going anywhere. Low ankle sprains are really not that big of a deal for these guys. Lacy should probably play this weekend, and even if he doesn’t Starks isn’t high on my list of starters. I don’t know why everybody is all-in on Starks as the top add this week – it doesn’t make a lick of sense to me.

Others – CMike, Zenner (obligatory “Joique sucks” reminder)

Quarterroys
Jul 1, 2008

I'm aiming for Matt Jones with a healthy chunk of my FAAB this week, and am planning to drop Charles Johnson. Any reason I shouldn't kick him to the curb at this point? My WRs are:

Cobb, Evans, ARob, Stevie, Martavis Bryant, Agholor and Johnson

Johnson looks like the third of fourth in the pecking order and Norv Turner isn't exactly inspiring confidence.

TUS
Feb 19, 2003

I'm going to stab you. Offline. With a real knife.


I grabbed Zo rather swiftly during the week... I was surprised he was available in a 16 team league, but as the Forsett owner I kinda wanted him. I also have a bid in for Lewis... seems to be a good bet for the better run defense matchups NE will have.

sourdough
Apr 30, 2012

Cervixalot posted:

I'm aiming for Matt Jones with a healthy chunk of my FAAB this week, and am planning to drop Charles Johnson. Any reason I shouldn't kick him to the curb at this point? My WRs are:

Cobb, Evans, ARob, Stevie, Martavis Bryant, Agholor and Johnson

Johnson looks like the third of fourth in the pecking order and Norv Turner isn't exactly inspiring confidence.

With those WR options, even if you believe in Charles Johnson you won't be missing much dropping him.

Zypher
Sep 3, 2009

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Brees asking for a second opinion after a good diagnosis is bizarre. He must be in a lot of pain/discomfort

quote:

ESPN's Mike Triplett reported Drew Brees will get a second opinion from Dr. James Andrews on his injured shoulder.
Initial reports suggested Brees suffered a torn rotator cuff Week 2 against the Bucs, but an MRI revealed just a bruise. Dr. Andrews will look at the MRI to confirm the diagnosis. Even if the bruised rotator cuff diagnosis is correct, Brees still could be looking at a multi-week absence. His availability for this week will be determined by how the injury responds to treatment over the next few days.

Parker Lewis
Jan 4, 2006

Can't Lose


Cervixalot posted:

I'm aiming for Matt Jones with a healthy chunk of my FAAB this week, and am planning to drop Charles Johnson. Any reason I shouldn't kick him to the curb at this point? My WRs are:

Cobb, Evans, ARob, Stevie, Martavis Bryant, Agholor and Johnson

Johnson looks like the third of fourth in the pecking order and Norv Turner isn't exactly inspiring confidence.

Johnson looks extremely droppable with that WR core, I can't think of a situation in which I'd start him over any of those 6 (!) other receivers.

dat one portagee
Dec 6, 2006

WAT DOIN BUG?
Miami's D looked like a great match up pretty much every game through week 7 at the beginning of this year... now I'm wondering if they're going to get torched by the likes of Tyrod with how lovely they played the jags

Forever_Peace
May 7, 2007

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Zypher posted:

Brees asking for a second opinion after a good diagnosis is bizarre. He must be in a lot of pain/discomfort

It's a little strange, but he's pretty much the world's leading sports medicine guy. Repaired Brees' shredded shoulder in 2005. Maybe Brees just wanted somebody who intimately knew the history of his shoulder?

Story on the super doc: http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=3024046

Quarterroys
Jul 1, 2008

RVProfootballer posted:

With those WR options, even if you believe in Charles Johnson you won't be missing much dropping him.

Parker Lewis posted:

Johnson looks extremely droppable with that WR core, I can't think of a situation in which I'd start him over any of those 6 (!) other receivers.

Thanks y'all. It was him or Agholor, and if the Eagles are able to right the ship at any point, I may be able to move him or use him as bye week fill in.

Is 51% of my FAAB budget on Matt Jones too much? My RB situation is kind of a mess, so I want to add a high upside RB in the hopes that one blows up. Here is my current roster:

CJ Anderson - Still holding out hope he'll bounce back week 4 and beyond
JStew - Ugly start to the season, Cam running limits his TD upside
Yeldon - Good volume, low TD upside
Spiller - Still believe he can be a solid Flex/RB, may need to use him more if Brees is out (.5 PPR League)
CMike - Super high upside if he gets a shot in Dallas

Otherwise, I'll probably need to trade for Hillman to hedge or package an RB and one of my WRs for an RB upgrade.

Edit: I should note that this is a pretty competitive 12-team league, and Matt Jones is by far the top WW pickup this week (maybe Marvin Jones is second?). Pretty much anyone of interest has been long gone.

Quarterroys fucked around with this message at 14:39 on Sep 22, 2015

Gobias Ind.
Apr 5, 2007

If your girlfriend says hey to me that's our girlfriend now idc
I should be trying to divest myself of Brandin Cooks yes? That Saints offense was supremely disappointing even before Brees got hurt.

I think I'm going to try offering CJ Anderson/Cooks to a hopefully frustrated Hill/Maclin owner that has started 0-2. Good trade in standard scoring? Or should I be giving CJA and Cooks more time?

Suave Fedora
Jun 10, 2004

89 posted:

Who's the defense to own this week? I've played Tennesee and Indy the past 2 weeks and have lost my rear end. How's Cincy?

Jets, Bengals, Browns

VietCampo
Aug 24, 2010
I can pick up 2 RBs and keep as depth, my options are...

Crowell, Dunbar, Hillman, and Zo.

I currently have Matt Jones, Gurley, and Duke Johnson on my bench with Abdullah and Gio Bernard starting. I'm considering swapping out Duke for Dunbar, but don't know with Romo out.

FULL PPR, sorry keep forgetting to add this.

VietCampo fucked around with this message at 14:46 on Sep 22, 2015

Quarterroys
Jul 1, 2008

VietCampo posted:

I can pick up 2 RBs and keep as depth, my options are...

Crowell, Dunbar, Hillman, and Zo.

I currently have Matt Jones, Gurley, and Duke Johnson on my bench with Abdullah and Gio Bernard starting. I'm considering swapping out Duke for Dunbar, but don't know with Romo out.

PPR? If so, Dunbar might edge out Duke. Cleveland hasn't really used Duke in the passing game, and Crowell had a nice week last week. Duke is more of a longterm speculative hold this season, wheras Dunbar should be productive in PPR formats at least until Romo/Dez return.

Kingtheninja
Jul 29, 2004

"You're the best looking guy here."

Zypher posted:

Brees asking for a second opinion after a good diagnosis is bizarre. He must be in a lot of pain/discomfort

I've torn my rotator before and it can be excruciating, I don't doubt him wanting to double check it though.

VietCampo
Aug 24, 2010

Cervixalot posted:

PPR? If so, Dunbar might edge out Duke. Cleveland hasn't really used Duke in the passing game, and Crowell had a nice week last week. Duke is more of a longterm speculative hold this season, wheras Dunbar should be productive in PPR formats at least until Romo/Dez return.

Yea, it's full PPR, idk why i keep forgetting to add that.

Yea, I like Duke, but it may take a long time before he's actually fantasy relevant. Right now with Abdullah and Gio starting, i'm just trying to look for boom options and play matchups. To be clear i would have to dump one of my current bench RB's, so would be Duke.

VietCampo fucked around with this message at 14:50 on Sep 22, 2015

ZIGfried
Nov 4, 2005

I can hardly contain myself!
I'd like to introduce you all to the "Start defenses playing Chicago" mind set. Chicago has a new GM and coach who want nothing to do with Jay Cutler. They are safe from being canned if they have a bad year. They seem to have no urgency to get their best players on the field. They're starting Jimmy Clausen.

Basically, Chicago is executing "Operation Top Draft Pick"

Suave Fedora
Jun 10, 2004
Too bad that this week they play SEA, who is owned in virtually all leagues.

Mingus Dew
Dec 30, 2013

Finally, a good reason to punch a teenager in the face!

Suave Fedora posted:

Too bad that this week they play SEA, who is owned in virtually all leagues.

Hoo-boy. That puts me in a bad position - do I start Palmer or Wilson?

Suave Fedora
Jun 10, 2004

Mingus Dew posted:

Hoo-boy. That puts me in a bad position - do I start Palmer or Wilson?

Palmer. The SF secondary is just as depleted.

VietCampo
Aug 24, 2010
I currently have Ertz starting at TE, and am seriously considering picking up a TE from the available TE's to start instead of him until the Eagles get their poo poo together.

Am i crazy for not sticking with Ertz or should i try to get someone like Ebron, Jared Cook, Donnell, Gillmore, or R. Rodgers? Leaning dropping Cole Beasley for Ebron atm.

TommyGun85
Jun 5, 2013
Mike Evans for Bishop Sankey.

I'd be looking to drop Sankey anyways.

thoughts?

Kingtheninja
Jul 29, 2004

"You're the best looking guy here."
Trying to get anything good for RB and most of it's picked clean. I'm considering a trade and offering up Stevie Johnson and Darren Sproles for James Jones and Matt Jones. Is this even worth attempting? Yahoo eval shows not much in proj difference but I'm not good at this type of stuff and not sure if it's good/bad/worth it.

Quarterroys
Jul 1, 2008

TommyGun85 posted:

Mike Evans for Bishop Sankey.

I'd be looking to drop Sankey anyways.

thoughts?

MASH

Suave Fedora
Jun 10, 2004

VietCampo posted:

I currently have Ertz starting at TE, and am seriously considering picking up a TE from the available TE's to start instead of him until the Eagles get their poo poo together.

Am i crazy for not sticking with Ertz or should i try to get someone like Ebron, Jared Cook, Donnell, Gillmore, or R. Rodgers? Leaning dropping Cole Beasley for Ebron atm.

I'm picking up Ebron wherever I have Cameron/Rastafarian Jenkins and I would absolutely drop Beasley for Ebron. The first four weeks are telling in terms of TE production, and he's scored both weeks.

On another note, I'm genuinely puzzled by Dr. James Andrews response of "rehab hard" for Brees. Is his rehab really going to include strength or ROM (range of motion) exercises or did he mean "rest and treat hard as in treatment being more along the lines of electroshock therapy, massage, and alternating heat/cold?

quote:

ESPN's Ed Werder reported Drew Brees believes there is a "reasonable possibility" he can play Week 3.

Dr. James Andrews reportedly told Brees to "rehab hard." It sounds like Brees will avoid surgery, but his status for Week 3 will depend on how the shoulder responds to treatment over the next few days. Luke McCown will start if Brees cannot play.

RisqueBarber
Jul 10, 2005

TommyGun85 posted:

Mike Evans for Bishop Sankey.

I'd be looking to drop Sankey anyways.

thoughts?

hit accept asap

Forever_Peace
May 7, 2007

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Kingtheninja posted:

Trying to get anything good for RB and most of it's picked clean. I'm considering a trade and offering up Stevie Johnson and Darren Sproles for James Jones and Matt Jones. Is this even worth attempting? Yahoo eval shows not much in proj difference but I'm not good at this type of stuff and not sure if it's good/bad/worth it.

ppr I think you lose on that trade on both players.

For Stevie/Sproles I would see if you can get Miller or Abdullah.

Gearman
Dec 6, 2011

Trying to decide between Gillmore and Ebron myself. Ebron's been doing some work, but there are a bunch of mouths to feed in Detroit. Seeing GIllmore drag three dudes in to the endzone is pretty impressive but it was against Oakland.

Gobias Ind.
Apr 5, 2007

If your girlfriend says hey to me that's our girlfriend now idc

TommyGun85 posted:

Mike Evans for Bishop Sankey.

I'd be looking to drop Sankey anyways.

thoughts?

How is this even a question? Especially if you were planning on dropping Sankey anyways?

Of course take that trade.

Ayudo
Mar 30, 2006
How are we feeling about Jeremy Maclin? Good trade opportunity with an 0-2 team who's never been afraid to make himself worse.

Might try Sankey and Steve Smith or Davante Adams for Maclin, but I'm concerned 5 points is going to be his ceiling.

Suave Fedora
Jun 10, 2004

Gearman posted:

Trying to decide between Gillmore and Ebron myself. Ebron's been doing some work, but there are a bunch of mouths to feed in Detroit. Seeing GIllmore drag three dudes in to the endzone is pretty impressive but it was against Oakland.

The Ravens were playing from behind and Perriman will soak those targets once he returns. Stafford is not getting a lot of time in the pocket so I'm theorizing the TE looks will continue.

VietCampo
Aug 24, 2010
Yea, i really don't get the I'm gonna drop this player anyways, but should i click accept on this trade that gives me a WR1? :psyduck:

VietCampo fucked around with this message at 16:20 on Sep 22, 2015

TommyGun85
Jun 5, 2013

VietCampo posted:

Yea, i really don't get the I'm gonna drop this player anyways, but should i click accept on this trade that gives me a WR1?

to add some context, my recievers are already Cobb and Julio and Evans will be relegated to my bench. I also consider him to be largely overrated.

anyway, i guess it was a stupid question and should have prepared myself accordingly for internet smartass backlash.

Forever_Peace
May 7, 2007

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I haven't looked too closely at TE for WW pickups for the rest of season but a gut-check list would look like:

Gates/(Miller)/Ebron/Cook/Donnell/Chandler/Gilmore/Rodgers

Miller in parentheses because he's at 58% ownership in Yahoo - close enough I'd figure I'd mention him.

ZIGfried
Nov 4, 2005

I can hardly contain myself!
Yahoo changed Foster's projection from 18 points to 0. There goes my plan to intimidate my opponent with Foster in my RB slot up until Sunday.

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TommyGun85
Jun 5, 2013

Forever_Peace posted:

I haven't looked too closely at TE for WW pickups for the rest of season but a gut-check list would look like:

Gates/(Miller)/Ebron/Cook/Donnell/Chandler/Gilmore/Rodgers

Miller in parentheses because he's at 58% ownership in Yahoo - close enough I'd figure I'd mention him.

what about Jenkins if hes available, where would he fit?

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