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Smoothrich posted:unfunny stiffs hacks spergs dorks criminals communist jews and weirdos. But enough about my last barbecue...
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Rocks posted:Trump to announce national security team soon: Allow me to recommend #TrumpNationalSecurityTeam.
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Smoothrich posted:Are you the latest convert to Democrats/Liberals 4 Trump 2016? I'm with you buddy if Biden doesn't run. I've wanted Biden to declare a candicacy for the past year because I would feel enthusiastic about supporting him but now that Trump has napalmed his Republican opposition I'm giddy thinking about Biden Vs Trump in a general. Their debates wouldn't even need a moderator just a bartender to keep pouring them whiskey as they shoot the poo poo. They are both animated improvising talkers who go for laughs and insults and probably agree on 90 percent of issues anyways so they would probably have to stick to making fun of each other and pumping up the crowd. I would and will vote for Biden if he runs, but holy poo poo these words make me hate him a little on sheer principle. You are terrible.
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Sep 22, 2015 12:48
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Big Balls, Big Heart, Can't Lose
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Sep 22, 2015 12:52
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Why winnowing matters:
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Sep 22, 2015 12:52
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Romeny is gonna reenter the race any day now to save jeb from himself.
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Joementum posted:Why winnowing matters: Along the same line:  e: 
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Sep 22, 2015 12:57
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JT Jag posted:7% would be really arbitrary and Cruz would make a huge stink. I wouldn't be shocked by 5% though. It's a round number. Where are some cool polls with second choices?
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Sep 22, 2015 13:03
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Cruz being Cruz on Colbert https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKx...Da3WnuRYw1aDIqA quote:“It’s a matter of compromising,” Colbert said. “Will you be willing to compromise with the other side?” Cruz did not say yes, though he did concede that there was “nothing diabolical” about the other side. Instead, he repeated his commitment to fighting for certain principles: “Live within our means, stop bankrupting our kids and grandkids, and follow the Constitution.” “And no gay marriage,” Colbert shot back. Cruz responded that the Constitution reserves the question of marriage to the states, but Colbert again challenged him. “It doesn’t mention marriage in the Constitution,” he said to loud applause.
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Sep 22, 2015 13:08
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Cruz being Cruz on Colbert Has anyone ever explained why gay marriage is a states issue but miscegenation is not?
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Sep 22, 2015 13:18
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I don't watch tv news but is anyone calling the GOP candidates on their awful, frightening rhetoric. I see some of it in the print media.
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Sep 22, 2015 13:32
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Cruz being Cruz on Colbert He knows he is wrong what a disgusting slimeball.
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Sep 22, 2015 13:33
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Brannock posted:I can't really find much to disagree with there. But, uhh, problematic, and.. uhh... sexist... I don't get why you go to the mat so much for the huge racist running for president
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Sep 22, 2015 13:37
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quote:“I don’t think we should entrust governing our society to five unelected lawyers in Washington.” Isn't that pretty much exactly what the Supreme Court should literally be doing? Combined with: quote:“If you want to win an issue, go to the ballot box and win at the ballot box,” he said. “That’s the way the Constitution was designed.” is again more-or-less what happened: a politician has a stand on a particular issue, they get voted into office, they advocate for their stance on the issue, and you get A. legislation that represents that politician's view on the issue (plus or minus whatever they had to give away to get enough votes to have the legislation passed B. enforcement of the legislation via the Executive branch C. a judiciary that evaluates whether or not the legislation is valid as far as a governing law of our current society
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Sep 22, 2015 13:39
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It's no use arguing. Cruz knows what he is saying is bull poo poo. He is just moral and ethics free and will spout dominionist nonsense for money.
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Sep 22, 2015 13:41
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Zelder posted:I don't get why you go to the mat so much for the huge racist running for president like, the fourth quote is about how black people are inherently lazy and you just make a glib comment about problematic language. why
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Sep 22, 2015 13:42
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"The opinions of the Supreme Court don't count if you don't agree with them" -James Madison or something
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Joementum posted:Why winnowing matters: Isn't this a bit dangerous if he is already $150k down in donations? He is recruiting people from a campaign that just imploded from lack of direct funds into a campaign that desperately needs funds and seems unlikely to get them.
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Sep 22, 2015 13:49
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In the vein of the Cruz thing, after all of the "We wouldn't have this deal with Iran under Reagan's watch" rhetoric I'd like to see someone point out that Reagan actually secretly sold weapons to Iran. You don't even need to muddy the waters with bringing up the "to illegally fund Nicaraugan paramilitary death squads" part
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Sep 22, 2015 13:50
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Anal Papist posted:Isn't this a bit dangerous if he is already $150k down in donations? He is recruiting people from a campaign that just imploded from lack of direct funds into a campaign that desperately needs funds and seems unlikely to get them. should we really be concerned? "isn't this a bit dangerous"  to Ted fuckin Cruzinstead of "this is dangerous and its gonna be hilarious"  to Ted fuckin Cruz
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Sep 22, 2015 13:51
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Anal Papist posted:Isn't this a bit dangerous if he is already $150k down in donations? He is recruiting people from a campaign that just imploded from lack of direct funds into a campaign that desperately needs funds and seems unlikely to get them.  Just let them keep pissing on the electric fence.
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Sep 22, 2015 13:51
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Didn't Reagan also deal with Iran to get the hostages released.
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euphronius posted:Didn't Reagan also deal with Iran to get the hostages released. Likely sold them arms to do it too.
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I'm 37 and I barely remember Reagan. How much longer will he be their brand.
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euphronius posted:Didn't Reagan also deal with Iran to get the hostages released. Allegedly. I don't think any definitive proof of the October Surprise conspiracy ever came out, at least that I know of. Not to get too Freepy, but it wouldn't surprise me in the least if the Lich had an agreement with them.
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euphronius posted:I'm 37 and I barely remember Reagan. How much longer will he be their brand. Democrats tried to pump life into the dessicated corpse of the New Deal Coalition as late as 1976, so...oh wow. We are as far from 1984 as 1976 was from 1944.
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Sep 22, 2015 13:59
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euphronius posted:I'm 37 and I barely remember Reagan. How much longer will he be their brand. Forever. Eisenhower is too far back, and the only other recent Republican Presidents are Nixon and the Bushes. Saint Reagan is the only one they can safely latch on to.
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Sep 22, 2015 13:59
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"Reagan got 52 hostages for some guns, Obama is giving them nukes and couldn't even get 4!!!"
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euphronius posted:Didn't Reagan also deal with Iran to get the hostages released. In the words of the man himself: quote:A few months ago I told the American people I did not trade arms for hostages. My heart and my best intentions still tell me that's true, but the facts and the evidence tell me it is not. Yeah, he definitely did, but more importantly he didn't feel like he did, so it was probably fine.
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New Morning Consult poll, taken post-debate:quote:Trump takes 32 percent of the vote among self-identified Republicans and Republican-leaning independents, according to a new Morning Consult tracking poll — far ahead of retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson’s 12 percent and former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush’s 11 percent.  quote:On the Democratic side, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton for the first time has fallen below the 50 percent mark. She maintains a strong lead over Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) — 49 percent to 28 percent — though her 21-point lead is at its lowest point since Morning Consult began surveying the Democratic field. 
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To be fair, Reagan traded arms and in return got returned hostages AND funded anti-communist terrorists with the proceeds. What a deal! If only there was a negotiator of such skill running for office today...
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Bryter posted:In the words of the man himself: Your conflating the two Iran issues. Reagan was all up in Iran.
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Xenophon posted:New Morning Consult poll, taken post-debate: I think I'm starting to agree with whoever first said that Trump is going to the Romney of 2016 where the 2nd rate candidates rise and fall beneath him, getting close to taking them down only to see their wax wings melt. The biggest difference though is that Romney was seen as eventual "well he's good enough I suppose" candidate, where as people actually WANT to vote for Trump.
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AhhYes posted:Has anyone ever explained why gay marriage is a states issue but miscegenation is not? Time. Most arguments against gay marriage are the same as those made against miscegenation. In a few years time gay marriage will be as grudgingly accepted by the right as black people marrying white people. Time is always the one thing that ends the godless usurpation of our sacred country. Actually lovely opinions like Dredd Scott stand the test of time, lambasted forever after. Controversial opinions like Loving and Obergefell lose their opposition over similar time frames.
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The Nastier Nate posted:I think I'm starting to agree with whoever first said that Trump is going to the Romney of 2016 where the 2nd rate candidates rise and fall beneath him, getting close to taking them down only to see their wax wings melt. I hope this is true because gently caress Fiorina.
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euphronius posted:Your conflating the two Iran issues. Reagan was all up in Iran. My bad. It's pretty funny that a man for whom "that time he negotiated with Iran" could refer to so many things has become the poster boy for not negotiating with Iran.
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Gyges posted:Time. Most arguments against gay marriage are the same as those made against miscegenation. In a few years time gay marriage will be as grudgingly accepted by the right as black people marrying white people. Time is always the one thing that ends the godless usurpation of our sacred country. Actually lovely opinions like Dredd Scott stand the test of time, lambasted forever after. Controversial opinions like Loving and Obergefell lose their opposition over similar time frames. And yet there's still a portion of the country that has a freakout any time a commercial features a white woman and a black man, with even the slightest hint that they may have had sex in the past (even in a marriage!) or might have sex in the future!
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Pinterest Mom posted:🔥🔥🔥 take alert Someone's been watching The West Wing. And, predictably, missed the point.
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Xenophon posted:New Morning Consult poll, taken post-debate: I am surprised Carly didn't bump higher up in the polls. Also, it looks like Carson's loss in the polls was spread out among the other candidates a good bit. Raccooon fucked around with this message at 14:47 on Sep 22, 2015 |
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euphronius posted:It's no use arguing. Cruz knows what he is saying is bull poo poo. He is just moral and ethics free and will spout dominionist nonsense for money. Ted Cruz is amazing if you view him for what he is, which is an earnestly religious conservative Texan-Cuban-Canadian-American super genius lawyer prodigy turned into professional troll of the utmost cunning and ambition. He recites on the Senate floor satirically rewritten Cicero speeches calling Obama a tyrant just as naturally as reading Dr. Seuss books to his daughters on C-SPAN for enough hours to somehow give hundreds of other House Republicans the bright idea to shut down the government like a bunch of sucker plebs. Ted Cruz instigated a government shut down just so he could blame it on President Obama and the Republican leadership's incompetence at both being unable to avoid a shutdown and not shutting down the government hard enough for Conservative beliefs simultaneously, that is some master level politicking. I don't even think he was in the Senate for a year before he derailed the entire governmental process, he's a boss. Most people don't even know he's the guy that made the argument to the Supreme Court that gave Bush the 2000 election. He also won the largest settlement in history for someone falsely accused of murder who was on Death Row for decades after appealing his case all the way to the Supreme Court himself like a true Defender of Liberty. I was looking for a video of an interview he gave before he became a Senator where he spoke with shocking eloquence about his devout faith as a Christian and belief in his Bible taking a backseat to our shared freedoms and the American Constitution, he seemed very sincere in how he respects all religions, is tolerant of gays and other minorities, and feels obligated by both his Christian values and legal training 2 Serve and Protect the disenfranchised, poor etc but unsurprisingly all I can find is the past year of him pandering to Southern Evangelical primary voters for his long term Presidential campaign scheme (which is probably to become Trump's VP now lol) which makes him sound like a total zealot dbag instead. Instead here's another favorite Cruz video of mine, where he trolls an entire room of Middle Eastern Christians by shaming them for their hypocritical anti-Semitic Israel hating bigotry and proudly leaves the stage to a chorus of boos within 5 minutes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2ZVihACwQ0 Smoothrich fucked around with this message at 14:53 on Sep 22, 2015 |
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