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Morglon
Jan 13, 2010

Safe and sound, detached from reality.
Just like your posting.
I'm connecting fine but I did notice a bit more lag than usual, most of the time it's not enough to seriously impede gameplay but just enough to feel floatier than it used to.

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RottenK
Feb 17, 2011

Sexy bad choices

FAILED NOJOE
so how long until the poorly disguised lockbox event ends

wondering if it's possible to get the second spec unlocked without spending cash shop currency

Orabilis
May 6, 2014

RottenK posted:

so how long until the poorly disguised lockbox event ends

wondering if it's possible to get the second spec unlocked without spending cash shop currency

It ends on the 30th. They claim that even a F2P player will be able to acquire dual-spec, I'm not so sure. Having a lockbox with known rewards and paying for random progression at opening it seems just as lovely as buying keys for lockboxes and hoping you open what you want.

This is the first time I'm considering Warframe's events to be well put together.

Kurieg
Jul 19, 2012

RIP Lutri: 5/19/20-4/2/20
:blizz::gamefreak:
This is how you're intended to unlock it without just outright buying it. They said at some point in the future it will go up on the shop. Not sure for how much.

I'm not sure if they're going to do that with double chapels or the massive dps increase sigil.

Morglon
Jan 13, 2010

Safe and sound, detached from reality.
Just like your posting.
According to the figures someone posted on the Forums you could've started on day 1 and still not get the second spec without spending money if you roll bad enough. Which is entirely possible and a big reason I dislike this "event" so much. You could get lucky and unlock it in a day though. I haven't made significant progress since I stopped rushing though so I don't think I'll unlock anything else which really sucks since I want the extra spec slots beyond the second one and the mount, not for really using but having, it's a collector thing but I'm not paying for it so probably poo poo out of luck.

Schubalts
Nov 26, 2007

People say bigger is better.

But for the first time in my life, I think I've gone too far.

Orabilis posted:

They claim that even a F2P player will be able to acquire dual-spec, I'm not so sure.

It is not possible to get it without being extremely lucky or spending Argents. Without spending any Argents, the norm will be 42 to 84 points by the end.

Washout
Jun 27, 2003

"Your toy soldiers are not pigmented to my scrupulous standards. As a result, you are not worthy of my time. Good day sir"

Morglon posted:

According to the figures someone posted on the Forums you could've started on day 1 and still not get the second spec without spending money if you roll bad enough. Which is entirely possible and a big reason I dislike this "event" so much. You could get lucky and unlock it in a day though. I haven't made significant progress since I stopped rushing though so I don't think I'll unlock anything else which really sucks since I want the extra spec slots beyond the second one and the mount, not for really using but having, it's a collector thing but I'm not paying for it so probably poo poo out of luck.

You HAVE to spend credits and buy argents and accelerate it to get it. It takes about 100k per 10pp so I hope you saved up some credits in preparation like I did! However I underestimated how many I'd need and only had 600k when the event started, but I also had 2000 argents from selling replicators beforehand, but they patched that out now.

I'm only at 91pp as of today, but once reset day hits I should be able to grind out enough credits so that I'll finish it. But in the future I'm going to keep 1.5m or so banked at all times.

Washout fucked around with this message at 20:40 on Sep 21, 2015

Morglon
Jan 13, 2010

Safe and sound, detached from reality.
Just like your posting.
It's only 150, you could roll three 50s in a day. Or just win the lottery and have all the money you need to buy all the event poo poo ever.

Saltpowered
Apr 12, 2010

Chief Executive Officer
Awful Industries, LLC

Washout posted:

Have you been logging in every week? The cap limit does not accrue automatically... I'm sorry if you lost it. :/

Seriously? I've been out of town for a few weeks so I havent been able to play. I was looking forward to coming back to a big cap and catching up.... If this is true it is by far the worst thing they could have done.

RottenK
Feb 17, 2011

Sexy bad choices

FAILED NOJOE
i actually started playing the game again and had a lot of fun for a few days but this event is ruining the game super fast for me

it doesn't infuences me directly, of course, but just seeing how loving lovely it is drains all hope for this game's future

Space Skeleton
Sep 28, 2004

The PP values of the rewards should probably have been half of what they are, maybe they will realize this going forward for other events- hahaha.

Kurieg
Jul 19, 2012

RIP Lutri: 5/19/20-4/2/20
:blizz::gamefreak:
Or just modify the RNG so that 10s and 20s are more common and 1s and 2s are basically nonexistant.

Joust
Dec 7, 2007

No Ledges.
I'm a few tiers up in the mechanoid event and I'm pretty sure some people are running the same dungeon over and over for 16+ hours in order to be in the top 10 of their bracket and get the extra sparks/tier up.

Kurieg
Jul 19, 2012

RIP Lutri: 5/19/20-4/2/20
:blizz::gamefreak:
There are tiers and brackets?
:psyduck:

I thought it was just 'Do a thing, get some points, get enough points and you get sparks'.

Joust
Dec 7, 2007

No Ledges.

Kurieg posted:

There are tiers and brackets?
:psyduck:

I thought it was just 'Do a thing, get some points, get enough points and you get sparks'.

Yeah go to the aelinet, click on the bar at the top and behold. I've gotten an extra 300 sparks so far and I think the top tier is 600 extra a day which seems pretty big.

I think it's better to just think of it the way you did.

Kurieg
Jul 19, 2012

RIP Lutri: 5/19/20-4/2/20
:blizz::gamefreak:
I imagine the Mechanoid atlas isn't going anywhere, and we'll probably start getting sparks for it again once the next invasion rolls around.

The alternative is that these are one-time rewards and the only way you can get them is by grinding like an industrial diamond cutter.

Joust
Dec 7, 2007

No Ledges.

Kurieg posted:

I imagine the Mechanoid atlas isn't going anywhere, and we'll probably start getting sparks for it again once the next invasion rolls around.

The alternative is that these are one-time rewards and the only way you can get them is by grinding like an industrial diamond cutter.

Yeah the invasions will always be on rotation.

By the way if you go to http://www.twitch.tv/nyanyakot right now you'll see a russian group fighting the mechanoid herald. That's the leader of this invasion and the one that drops the items relevant to specialisations in your god atlas.

Fun fact: For everything before the boss they used 4 classes: Knight/Lightbinder/Alchemist/Kinetic. For the Herald they are using 3 classes (No knight).

Washout
Jun 27, 2003

"Your toy soldiers are not pigmented to my scrupulous standards. As a result, you are not worthy of my time. Good day sir"

Lawlicaust posted:

Seriously? I've been out of town for a few weeks so I havent been able to play. I was looking forward to coming back to a big cap and catching up.... If this is true it is by far the worst thing they could have done.

Yeah, sorry. :/ Like I said I looked into buying a release day account.

Kurieg
Jul 19, 2012

RIP Lutri: 5/19/20-4/2/20
:blizz::gamefreak:
Does logging in via the portal extend it? Or am I going to have to install skyforge on my lovely travel laptop while I'm in the hospital just to up my cap?

Comrayn
Jul 22, 2008
I am going to download this game and most likely stop playing within a week wish me luck!

ttocs7
Sep 14, 2010

Joust posted:

Yeah go to the aelinet, click on the bar at the top and behold. I've gotten an extra 300 sparks so far and I think the top tier is 600 extra a day which seems pretty big.

I think it's better to just think of it the way you did.

From what I read of it (so far), it looks like you have a daily goal. Hit that goal, you'll get 5 unusual (green) Mechanoid trophy fragments. If your 'team' also hits its goal (not sure the threshold, but I see 84% with 9 hours to go), you'll get 15K mechanoid trophies. If you also get top 10 (or 15?) in the group, you'll get 150 mechanoid sparks.

Not sure if this progress farther depending, but I see the 3rd tier or something. I ran something like 4-5 dungeons, got 22K points, and I'm still 9th. I was 2nd when I went to bed 8 hours ago. I'll at least get the 15K mechanoid tokens.

Saiban seems pretty fast, depending on what objectives I have. I plan on using the mechanoid dungeons to hit my spark caps this week, since the extra objectives are overall pretty easy and I get a consistent bonus.

Washout
Jun 27, 2003

"Your toy soldiers are not pigmented to my scrupulous standards. As a result, you are not worthy of my time. Good day sir"

Kurieg posted:

Does logging in via the portal extend it? Or am I going to have to install skyforge on my lovely travel laptop while I'm in the hospital just to up my cap?

That I don't know...

Saltpowered
Apr 12, 2010

Chief Executive Officer
Awful Industries, LLC

Washout posted:

Yeah, sorry. :/ Like I said I looked into buying a release day account.

Yeah.. that really kills my motivation to log back on if I can't actually catch back up. I haven't been one to bitch about the cap system so far but that poo poo is asinine.

PriNGLeS
Feb 18, 2004
ONCE YOU POP THE FUN DONT STOP
Using this method, a player can receive 3,000, 7,000 and 10,000 additional Insight, respectively, over the first three weeks. After that, they will have several weeks to pick up speed (20,000, 40,000 and so on), with the limit increasing rapidly and then shrinking only during the final stretch to the current maximum limit.

Not logging in for the first week isn't hurting you.

Also I'm not sure if that's entirely correct. I got 3k and 7k in the first week?

Morglon
Jan 13, 2010

Safe and sound, detached from reality.
Just like your posting.

Lawlicaust posted:

Yeah.. that really kills my motivation to log back on if I can't actually catch back up. I haven't been one to bitch about the cap system so far but that poo poo is asinine.

I would blame that on incompetence rather than malice but you never know. Maybe they are just that lovely.

Washout
Jun 27, 2003

"Your toy soldiers are not pigmented to my scrupulous standards. As a result, you are not worthy of my time. Good day sir"
I think it's actually every 3 days that it increments up.

PriNGLeS
Feb 18, 2004
ONCE YOU POP THE FUN DONT STOP

Washout posted:

I think it's actually every 3 days that it increments up.

Well it was on the first day that I got both and I haven't had any more. I'm not sure. My account is only 3 weeks old so maybe that has something to do with it. Who knows. I also got 2 1890 class spark increases also on the first day. And only 1 mastery increase (I think).

Joust
Dec 7, 2007

No Ledges.
I saw on the Oforum that someone hit 100k prestige and made a thread about it. They dropped $500 on the game for that privilege.

PriNGLeS posted:

Using this method, a player can receive 3,000, 7,000 and 10,000 additional Insight, respectively, over the first three weeks. After that, they will have several weeks to pick up speed (20,000, 40,000 and so on), with the limit increasing rapidly and then shrinking only during the final stretch to the current maximum limit.

Not logging in for the first week isn't hurting you.

Also I'm not sure if that's entirely correct. I got 3k and 7k in the first week?

Yeah this is what they were saying on their stream I think, you'll get the spark but it's not going to dump them on you all at once. They said if someone started this week then they'd be caught up fully to early access people in 2 months.

ttocs7 posted:

From what I read of it (so far), it looks like you have a daily goal. Hit that goal, you'll get 5 unusual (green) Mechanoid trophy fragments. If your 'team' also hits its goal (not sure the threshold, but I see 84% with 9 hours to go), you'll get 15K mechanoid trophies. If you also get top 10 (or 15?) in the group, you'll get 150 mechanoid sparks.

Not sure if this progress farther depending, but I see the 3rd tier or something. I ran something like 4-5 dungeons, got 22K points, and I'm still 9th. I was 2nd when I went to bed 8 hours ago. I'll at least get the 15K mechanoid tokens.

Saiban seems pretty fast, depending on what objectives I have. I plan on using the mechanoid dungeons to hit my spark caps this week, since the extra objectives are overall pretty easy and I get a consistent bonus.

Yeah if you're in the top 10 of your bracket you get your sparks and move up the next day which increases all those rewards for the next day. It's a sweet deal if you're in a bracket where you can sneak into top 10 with barely any effort, because even if you only do one run the next day the group is likely to ensure you get tokens at least.

Edit: nooope turns out you need to at least do your personal effort to 100% to get the other stuff.

Joust fucked around with this message at 12:16 on Sep 23, 2015

Comrayn
Jul 22, 2008
I picked light bringer and immediately wished I picked paladin but I'm sure if I picked paladin I would be regretting it anyway.

Why does everyone in this game have a vaguely Latin sounding name come on nerds get some better names.

Orabilis
May 6, 2014

Comrayn posted:

I picked light bringer and immediately wished I picked paladin but I'm sure if I picked paladin I would be regretting it anyway.

Why does everyone in this game have a vaguely Latin sounding name come on nerds get some better names.

Completing the Paladin class gets you the best symbol.

Comrayn
Jul 22, 2008

Orabilis posted:

Completing the Paladin class gets you the best symbol.

You're not helping bud

oh rly
Feb 22, 2006
oh rly ya rly no wai

Comrayn posted:

You're not helping bud

You will end up mastering several classes and unlocking several class symbols. As you get higher in prestige, you'll begin to gain sparks faster and maxing out the classes. I just hit 30,000 prestige and have 5 classes maxed out.

If you like LB, play LB and then do Paladin.

Space Skeleton
Sep 28, 2004

The Lightbulb symbol isn't bad. Also if you like to play Gunner the two shields stack.

Orabilis
May 6, 2014
I'd like playing Lightbringer and Alchemist more if I wasn't doing more damage per fight than the people I'm injecting, doping, blessing and flooding.

Kurieg
Jul 19, 2012

RIP Lutri: 5/19/20-4/2/20
:blizz::gamefreak:
They might not understand how your mechanics work, or it just might be that they don't have all their really good abilities and talents yet. Punchyfists is one of the last things Kinetic gets, same with Autoloader for Archer. Just stand near them and do your thing and your passive auras will make everyone better.

Morglon
Jan 13, 2010

Safe and sound, detached from reality.
Just like your posting.
So new costumes are in and gently caress me they're expensive. Apparently multiple times of what they are in the Russian version because Russians are poor. Yes, that is the official stance. I mean it's not like I have to have them but I kind of do, pretty princess is important.

Orabilis
May 6, 2014

Kurieg posted:

Punchyfists is one of the last things Kinetic gets

The Kinetic had Sledgehammer and Tramping, so there's that...

Its sort of easy to tell when to dope a Kinetic or Berserker, just look for punchyfists or red rage. Whats a good time to dump the buffs on other classes? I'm guessing stealth for Slayers.

Morglon posted:

So new costumes are in and gently caress me they're expensive. Apparently multiple times of what they are in the Russian version because Russians are poor. Yes, that is the official stance. I mean it's not like I have to have them but I kind of do, pretty princess is important.

Who has money for costumes after the Grand Prix facebook style event?

Kurieg
Jul 19, 2012

RIP Lutri: 5/19/20-4/2/20
:blizz::gamefreak:
How long does the buff last? Witchalocks have a pretty fast cycle between their "Not doing much damage" and "Doing all of the damage" phases, so if you're injecting them regularly they can probably manage their own cycles.

Morglon
Jan 13, 2010

Safe and sound, detached from reality.
Just like your posting.
Well the new costumes are permanent so people are defending it even though some of them cost you and entire week's cap worth of credits if you have been playing since early access.

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Evil_Greven
Feb 20, 2007

Whadda I got to,
whadda I got to do
to wake ya up?

To shake ya up,
to break the structure up!?

Comrayn posted:

You're not helping bud

Just switch classes to Paladin. You can do that at any time (other than in combat).

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