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Boss ,,, those are just kids, DOAN HURT THEM *smashes one whit a metal crutch when return*
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It would be pretty funny if Ocelot was just lying/bullshitting to BB when he said he would hypnotize himself.
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Sep 22, 2015 20:52
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"We're taking away your boytoy from you and placing him in another hospital because they're hunting him through you. When we need you, we're going to bring him to you. Aside from that, stay wary of any pricks who are after you."
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Sep 22, 2015 20:53
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The Big Boss is in another Hospital
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Sep 22, 2015 20:55
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Ocelot and Miller really started the feud because they want to bang BB. It's like a reverse Twilight
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Sep 22, 2015 20:55
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My favorite part about the whole thing is how they tricked Volgin's loving spirit of vengeance-animated fiery corpse into spookin' on the wrong dude. And then they kill him and skin him for new armor for your horse. Truly, in Outer Heaven, men become demons. 
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Sep 22, 2015 20:56
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Commissar Budgie posted:My favorite part about the whole thing is how they tricked Volgin's loving spirit of vengeance-animated fiery corpse into spookin' on the wrong dude. Actually I think that's why The Man on Fire seems to hesitate every time he got right up in Venom's face. There were like 3 cutscenes where he has Venom dead to rights and he just looks at him, with practically the same expression Quiet often does. Like he's peering into your face because he's not sure it's really Big Boss.
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Sep 22, 2015 21:01
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BurnBlackJay posted:Boss ,,, those are just kids, DOAN HURT THEM Kazuhira "Speak kikongo? not for long-o" Miller
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Sep 22, 2015 21:03
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Shoren posted:Listening to the post-credits talk between Kaz and Ocelot makes it seem like it happened immediately after Kaz is rescued. Ocelot talks about supporting Venom Snake going forward and how they need to coexist. Also, when Kaz storms off from Ocelot it sounds like he has his crutch. What Big Boss does to Kaz and Venom represents a massive personal betrayal. I can't picture a world where Kaz discovers this and agrees to play his part like a good puppet. He says as much--the minute he finds out, Big Boss can go straight to hell. Kaz absolutely had to be kept in the dark for their plan to work. Presumably Ocelot only told Kaz after Venom remembered who he was and the charade could no longer continue.
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Sep 22, 2015 21:03
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Do you think Code Talker's tapes on going to a reeducation school was supposed to be a parallel with the child soldiers, since if the plan to teach them DID go through they would probably be torn from their cultural identity?
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Sep 22, 2015 21:06
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Miller did nothing wrong
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Sep 22, 2015 21:09
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Buschmaki posted:Do you think Code Talker's tapes on going to a reeducation school was supposed to be a parallel with the child soldiers, since if the plan to teach them DID go through they would probably be torn from their cultural identity? Completely. One of the things Code Talker talks about is how he was given an English name and forced to use it. One of Eli's points of angst is that he is forced to go by Eli rather than his nom-de-guerre White Mamba
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Sep 22, 2015 21:09
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I think Kaz found out after the game. There's a point at around the time Huey gets booted when he radios you and is like "wow I really went crazy with that revenge thing, sorry about that, thanks for sticking with me through it boss" and I think that leads well into him wanting to stay with Venom and being way upset at Big Boss when he finds out the truth.
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Sep 22, 2015 21:10
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Kaz's story arc is like a reverse becoming a demon. He starts out an amoral businessman and ends up creating a family so meaningful to him that loving with it enrages him. His concerns about Quiet and Huey are kinda right, both do pose a threat to Mother Base. He does the boring paperwork that makes Big Boss a legend. And when he finds out Big Boss has abandoned him and his men he turns BB's discarded family (his double and "sons") to his destruction. Then Ocelot plays him so bad he gets Liquid to kill him. Sorry Kaz, you were good, but not pretty good.  
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Sep 22, 2015 21:11
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Buschmaki posted:Do you think Code Talker's tapes on going to a reeducation school was supposed to be a parallel with the child soldiers, since if the plan to teach them DID go through they would probably be torn from their cultural identity? The last part of DDR is "Reintegrate", so no. They're just trying to deprogram the kids and teach them a vocation that isn't shooting mans before reintroducing them to their society. Or Kaz is, anyway. Venom is like "Welcome to Outer Heaven! Thursdays is free pizza and every Saturday we gently caress up an FOB".
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Sep 22, 2015 21:11
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Gravy Jones posted:Reskin D-Horse as D-Dog so you can ride him into battle. Make him a giant loving dire wolf monster with an eyepatch the size of hubcap.
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Sep 22, 2015 21:11
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What if "Liquid's Arm?!" that Ocelot had grafted on to him was never Liquid's arm, but was actually Miller's arm? Like a retro-reversal of Liquid impersonating Miller in MGS1.
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Sep 22, 2015 21:12
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Snak posted:What if "Liquid's Arm?!" that Ocelot had grafted on to him was never Liquid's arm, but was actually Miller's arm? Like a retro-reversal of Liquid impersonating Miller in MGS1. I think it would have been very rotten and skinny after ~30 years rotting away in a lovely little hovel in Afghanistan.
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Sep 22, 2015 21:16
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Aurain posted:I think it would have been very rotten and skinny after ~30 years rotting away in a lovely little hovel in Afghanistan. (yes obviously it would make no sense)
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Sep 22, 2015 21:20
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Aurain posted:I think it would have been very rotten and skinny after ~30 years rotting away in a lovely little hovel in Afghanistan.
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Sep 22, 2015 21:23
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Heavy Metal posted:He was portrayed as a bit of a badass originally. And he was a trainer at Foxhound. I think he means the severed arm. I assumed he lost that in the helicopter crash though, so it really could have been in cryo the whole time.
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Sep 22, 2015 21:25
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Snak posted:I think he means the severed arm. I assumed he lost that in the helicopter crash though, so it really could have been in cryo the whole time. I definitely misread that. But I'd like to add, that arm was a bit of a badass. (edit: I'm also confused on why his arm is in a hovel in Afghanistan. I assumed it got blown up at the end of Ground Zeroes. Either way, badass arm.) Heavy Metal fucked around with this message at 21:32 on Sep 22, 2015 |
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Sep 22, 2015 21:26
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What happened to Miller's eyes anyway
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Sep 22, 2015 21:29
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lets hang out posted:What happened to Miller's eyes anyway He was brutally tortured.
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Sep 22, 2015 21:30
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BurnBlackJay posted:Boss ,,, those are just kids, DOAN HURT THEM He goes so quick from "murder those kids so we can get paid boss" to "they're just kids, don't even scratch them."
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Sep 22, 2015 21:30
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Kaz and Big Boss were totally for murdering children for money and it was only after taking the only compensation they got for being child soldiers that they decided to rescue them.
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Sep 22, 2015 21:33
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"Looks like our employer just got outbid." -Big Boss, on deciding to not murder children.
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Sep 22, 2015 21:34
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You do realize that they were playing it up like they were gonna kill the kids because their employer wanted an audio recording of the kids being offed, right?
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Sep 22, 2015 21:37
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I don't remember that part, I haven't replayed that mission because I do not like escort missions.
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Sep 22, 2015 21:39
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Does Solid Snake not know he is Big Boss's clone until MGS1? I replayed it and I think so but he is pretty aloof/doesnt seem to give a gently caress about it. Also MGS1 is really hard to play these days. Even MGS2 is a VAST improvement in controls.
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Sep 22, 2015 21:40
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Sylink posted:Does Solid Snake not know he is Big Boss's clone until MGS1? He's not entirely sure, but by then Big Boss had told them that he was his father.
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Sep 22, 2015 21:42
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Sylink posted:Does Solid Snake not know he is Big Boss's clone until MGS1? There's a retcon in MGS1 that Big Boss told him about the clone thing during their fight in MG2.
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Sep 22, 2015 21:43
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Sylink posted:Does Solid Snake not know he is Big Boss's clone until MGS1?
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Sep 22, 2015 21:46
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Snak posted:I'm not sure. BB calls himself his father in MG2 I thought, but he obviously doesn't know about the other clones until mgs1 and 2 It's a retcon in MGS1 that BB said it in MG2. Emphasis on retcon. It wasn't mentioned in the original script, the fan translation of it and was not included in Konami's translation included with MGS3 Subsistence.
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Sep 22, 2015 21:51
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ChaosArgate posted:It's a retcon in MGS1 that BB said it in MG2. Emphasis on retcon. It wasn't mentioned in the original script, the fan translation of it and was not included in Konami's translation included with MGS3 Subsistence. Gotcha. That's why I thought that then. I haven't played MG2.
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Sep 22, 2015 21:59
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Buschmaki posted:I don't remember that part, I haven't replayed that mission because I do not like escort missions. Can you wormhole fulton the children immediately if you replay it?
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Sep 22, 2015 22:07
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Yes you can fulton the children immediately. Also FOB missions are hilarious when both people are blatantly cheating.
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Sep 22, 2015 22:08
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Volt Catfish posted:Can you wormhole fulton the children immediately if you replay it? Yeah, even the injured one. And then you can just extract yourself using a material container near the mining pit.
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Sep 22, 2015 22:09
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Sylink posted:Does Solid Snake not know he is Big Boss's clone until MGS1? mgs is completely different than 2/3 but i think it's still extremely good and i definitely wouldn't call it really hard to play. it's a lot faster and more about running just outside of vision cones
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I am going to have to get a ps3 just for HD collection + 4 aren't I.
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