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Rastor: Jun 2, 2001

I think the Blackberry Venice looks great and the Nexus 6P looks hideously, hideously, ugly. I wonder if there is a correlation there.

# ? Sep 23, 2015 15:23

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# ? May 28, 2024 22:27

Lowen SoDium: Jun 5, 2003; Highen Fiber; Clapping Larry

Endless Mike posted:

Why do people care? 99% of people put their phone in a case that makes it look like a hunk of rubber.

# ? Sep 23, 2015 15:23

FAUXTON: Jun 2, 2005; spero che tu stia bene

Lowen SoDium posted:

Why do people care? 99% of people put their phone in a case that makes it look like a hunk of rubber.

It's probably lower than that, but even as a hunk of rubber the drat thing has that geordi laforge visor going on across the back.

# ? Sep 23, 2015 15:24

TraderStav: May 19, 2006; It feels like I was standing my entire life and I just sat down

Tunga posted:

I, too, wish my phone looked like a late 1980s sci-fi prop.

This, but unironically.

Would kill for some tricorder-level poo poo.

# ? Sep 23, 2015 15:25

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

Lowen SoDium posted:

Why do people care? 99% of people put their phone in a case that makes it look like a hunk of rubber.

No, it's suggesting that Star Trek is cool that I am questioning.

# ? Sep 23, 2015 15:32

Lowen SoDium: Jun 5, 2003; Highen Fiber; Clapping Larry

Endless Mike posted:

No, it's suggesting that Star Trek is cool that I am questioning.

My mom thinks I am cool, and I think Star Trek is cool so there.

# ? Sep 23, 2015 15:41

Elendil004: Mar 22, 2003; The prognosis
is not good.

Is there a thread for support with the tasker app? Just wondering where would be best to ask for some troubleshooting help

# ? Sep 23, 2015 15:43

WhyteRyce: Dec 30, 2001

So the 6p will be ugly as sin and have an 810 in it? Fantastic

# ? Sep 23, 2015 16:01

TraderStav: May 19, 2006; It feels like I was standing my entire life and I just sat down

Endless Mike posted:

No, it's suggesting that Star Trek is cool that I am questioning.

mods

# ? Sep 23, 2015 16:02

BigBoss: Jan 26, 2012; by Lowtax

TraderStav posted:

mods

Aaratek got banned for being gross, didn't you hear?

# ? Sep 23, 2015 16:06

Hughmoris: Apr 21, 2007; Let's go to the abyss!

I kind of like that Nexus 6P. It's a little different than the cookie cutter build. I wonder what the cost will be.

# ? Sep 23, 2015 16:09

Syrinxx: Mar 28, 2002; Death is whimsical today

Welp as it turns out the 16GB Moto X Pure only has 9.5 GB of actual storage which is a god drat criminal misrepresentation imo. And because I am evidently a loving retarded idiot, I actually believed you can move apps and their associated data to a big rear end SD card in Lollipop like everyone in this thread keeps insisting but nope - you can only move the app. So any game with a massive secondary data download, aka every single game there is, hogs up my 9.5GB of storage while my 64GB card sits basically empty. Add to that the fact that the god drat Google Camera doesn't even let you choose where to save your photos and videos.

Fool me once Android.... so, should I just root and fix this or is Marshmallow maybe coming soon for this phone? :ohdear:

# ? Sep 23, 2015 16:45

WhyteRyce: Dec 30, 2001

I was able to select the SD card in the Camera app on my wife's Moto G just fine :confused:

# ? Sep 23, 2015 16:49

chocolateTHUNDER: Jul 19, 2008; GIVE ME ALL YOUR FREE AGENTS

ALL OF THEM

Syrinxx posted:

Welp as it turns out the 16GB Moto X Pure only has 9.5 GB of actual storage which is a god drat criminal misrepresentation imo. And because I am evidently a loving retarded idiot, I actually believed you can move apps and their associated data to a big rear end SD card in Lollipop like everyone in this thread keeps insisting but nope - you can only move the app. So any game with a massive secondary data download, aka every single game there is, hogs up my 9.5GB of storage while my 64GB card sits basically empty. Add to that the fact that the god drat Google Camera doesn't even let you choose where to save your photos and videos.

Fool me once Android.... so, should I just root and fix this or is Marshmallow maybe coming soon for this phone?

Any camera app will let you choose to save pictures to an SD card instead of internal storage. Also, apps not moving all of their data to the SD card has been a thing since forever on Android.

# ? Sep 23, 2015 16:54

axeil: Feb 14, 2006

Syrinxx posted:

Welp as it turns out the 16GB Moto X Pure only has 9.5 GB of actual storage which is a god drat criminal misrepresentation imo. And because I am evidently a loving retarded idiot, I actually believed you can move apps and their associated data to a big rear end SD card in Lollipop like everyone in this thread keeps insisting but nope - you can only move the app. So any game with a massive secondary data download, aka every single game there is, hogs up my 9.5GB of storage while my 64GB card sits basically empty. Add to that the fact that the god drat Google Camera doesn't even let you choose where to save your photos and videos.

Fool me once Android.... so, should I just root and fix this or is Marshmallow maybe coming soon for this phone?

Yeah I just got my Pure and discovered that bit of joy too. Should've just bit the bullet and gotten the 32 GB version. It's not the end of the world for me though as I barely play any games on my phone and I like the Moto camera app and that saves to SD no problem.

I really wish manufacturers would post the actual amount of storage you get and not some theoretical maximum you'll never hit because the OS takes up 5 GB.

# ? Sep 23, 2015 17:10

Super-NintendoUser: Jan 16, 2004; COWABUNGERDER COMPADRES; Soiled Meat

No mention of Qi on the 5X....it has quick charge, but those aren't compatible right?

# ? Sep 23, 2015 17:12

Syrinxx: Mar 28, 2002; Death is whimsical today

chocolateTHUNDER posted:

Any camera app will let you choose to save pictures to an SD card instead of internal storage

Not the one from Google :suicide:

Is Manual Camera worth spending some rewards bux on since it uses the camera2 API?

# ? Sep 23, 2015 17:13

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

Maybe you should have spent that whole extra $100 (spread out over two years, or mostly gotten back when you sell) so you wouldn't have to janitor your phone even if it worked as you wanted it.

# ? Sep 23, 2015 17:17

Super-NintendoUser: Jan 16, 2004; COWABUNGERDER COMPADRES; Soiled Meat

Endless Mike posted:

Maybe you should have spent that whole extra $100 (spread out over two years, or mostly gotten back when you sell) so you wouldn't have to janitor your phone even if it worked as you wanted it.

I know because the 16GB iPhone easily saves pics to it's SD Card.

# ? Sep 23, 2015 17:19

Macichne Leainig: Jul 26, 2012; by VG

Syrinxx posted:

Welp as it turns out the 16GB Moto X Pure only has 9.5 GB of actual storage which is a god drat criminal misrepresentation imo. And because I am evidently a loving retarded idiot, I actually believed you can move apps and their associated data to a big rear end SD card in Lollipop like everyone in this thread keeps insisting but nope - you can only move the app. So any game with a massive secondary data download, aka every single game there is, hogs up my 9.5GB of storage while my 64GB card sits basically empty. Add to that the fact that the god drat Google Camera doesn't even let you choose where to save your photos and videos.

Fool me once Android.... so, should I just root and fix this or is Marshmallow maybe coming soon for this phone?

Just took this screenshot on my 16GB Moto X Pure.

# ? Sep 23, 2015 17:19

Combat Pretzel: Jun 23, 2004; No, seriously... what kurds?!

Red Warrior posted:

Android Police think that it will be like the LG G4 and the 16GB model will have 2GB and the 32GB will have 3GB. Hope so.

The hell?

# ? Sep 23, 2015 17:24

Doctor Butts: May 21, 2002

I don't think anyone here would have insisted Lollipop would save everything to SD card, but that is supposedly a Marshmallow feature.

# ? Sep 23, 2015 17:31

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

SIR FAT JONY IVES posted:

I know because the 16GB iPhone easily saves pics to it's SD Card.

16 GB iPhones are no more excusable than 16 GB Androids. In either case, higher capacities are available and instead of having to root and move apps around and whatever, they both just work.

Doctor Butts posted:

I don't think anyone here would have insisted Lollipop would save everything to SD card, but that is supposedly a Marshmallow feature.

Marshmallow supposedly unifies SD card space with the internal space so Android doesn't see them as any different. I say "supposedly" because there are no SD card-equipped devices with it.

# ? Sep 23, 2015 17:42

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

Endless Mike posted:

Marshmallow supposedly unifies SD card space with the internal space so Android doesn't see them as any different. I say "supposedly" because there are no SD card-equipped devices with it.

Anyone can test it on a nexus device because Google included the ability to force an attached USB drive to be adopted storage.

From what I've gathered reading up on it. It's pretty much an an all or nothing thing. If you adopt storage and allow it to move apps to it, it basically ceases to use internal storage for anything other than the system. It's very much a feature built around phones having a TINY bit of internal storage and an SD card slot rather than saying "Oh hey, I have a 64gb phone, let me add 128gb of storage and now I have 192gb in which to install apps!"

If you have a phone with large amounts of internal storage, you are not going to want to use adopted storage. You'll want to use it just as expanded storage like Lollipop today (fortunately, you have that choice.)

# ? Sep 23, 2015 18:06

chocolateTHUNDER: Jul 19, 2008; GIVE ME ALL YOUR FREE AGENTS

ALL OF THEM

bull3964 posted:

Anyone can test it on a nexus device because Google included the ability to force an attached USB drive to be adopted storage.

From what I've gathered reading up on it. It's pretty much an an all or nothing thing. If you adopt storage and allow it to move apps to it, it basically ceases to use internal storage for anything other than the system. It's very much a feature built around phones having a TINY bit of internal storage and an SD card slot rather than saying "Oh hey, I have a 64gb phone, let me add 128gb of storage and now I have 192gb in which to install apps!"

Really sounds like something for low-end android phones / AndroidOne style stuff.

# ? Sep 23, 2015 18:07

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

chocolateTHUNDER posted:

Really sounds like something for low-end android phones / AndroidOne style stuff.

Yup, it's really for the 4 and 8gb phones of the world. 16gb is right on the border depending on your use case.

Really, 16gb is only a valid storage choice (with an SD card) if you don't use a ton of large games but want to pin large amounts of media for local storage.

Good news for Syrinxx is that Moto has a no questions asked return policy. So, the 32gb model could be obtained for an extra $50.

bull3964 fucked around with this message at 18:13 on Sep 23, 2015

# ? Sep 23, 2015 18:09

Red Warrior: Jul 23, 2002; Is about to die!

Combat Pretzel posted:

The hell?

I mean obviously would prefer that they all have more memory, but if the leaks are correct for the 16GB one then I'd sure prefer they put 3GB in the 32GB.

Speaking of the Nexus 5X, Android Police now have the press images, confirming the ice blue color.

http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/09/23/exclusive-behold-the-leaked-press-renders-of-lgs-nexus-5x-in-white-black-and-greenish-blue/

And the 6P images went up earlier too if anyone missed those:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/09/23/exclusive-the-nexus-6p-colors-white-black-aluminum-and-gold/

# ? Sep 23, 2015 18:13

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

bull3964 posted:

Anyone can test it on a nexus device because Google included the ability to force an attached USB drive to be adopted storage.

From what I've gathered reading up on it. It's pretty much an an all or nothing thing. If you adopt storage and allow it to move apps to it, it basically ceases to use internal storage for anything other than the system. It's very much a feature built around phones having a TINY bit of internal storage and an SD card slot rather than saying "Oh hey, I have a 64gb phone, let me add 128gb of storage and now I have 192gb in which to install apps!"

If you have a phone with large amounts of internal storage, you are not going to want to use adopted storage. You'll want to use it just as expanded storage like Lollipop today (fortunately, you have that choice.)

Oh wow, that's actually worse than I thought. I guess, at least, it hopefully means it won't break things if you remove the SD card. Right?

# ? Sep 23, 2015 18:17

Syrinxx: Mar 28, 2002; Death is whimsical today

bull3964 posted:

Good news for Syrinxx is that Moto has a no questions asked return policy. So, the 32gb model could be obtained for an extra $50.

Thanks, I picked it up from Amazon who also have a great policy. I'll probably stick it out with 16GB and try the adopted storage thing; I'm kind of a hotsauce in that I buy a phone around every 10-12 months anyway.

I would genuinely like to know what in the gently caress is taking up 6.5GB of the storage on the X Pure though. Most stock-ish ROMs I've ever seen are less than 1GB

Syrinxx fucked around with this message at 18:40 on Sep 23, 2015

# ? Sep 23, 2015 18:35

Endless Mike: Aug 13, 2003

Lenovo has to put their trackers in there somewhere. But maybe they just made /system really big for futureproofing.

# ? Sep 23, 2015 18:46

bull3964: Nov 18, 2000; DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.

Syrinxx posted:

I would genuinely like to know what in the gently caress is taking up 6.5GB of the storage on the X Pure though. Most stock-ish ROMs I've ever seen are less than 1GB

Not really sure what you are looking at. The X is in line with Nexus devices which usually have the most sparse ROM possible. For example, the 32gb Nexus 6 has 25.98gb available out of the box. So, just over 6gb used by the system.

# ? Sep 23, 2015 18:50

logikv9: Mar 5, 2009; Ham Wrangler

The new nexus looks like it crams Project Tango sensors in there or something.

# ? Sep 23, 2015 18:55

WhyteRyce: Dec 30, 2001

Logikv9 posted:

The new nexus looks like it crams Project Tango sensors in there or something.

Contains both a finger print and barcode scanner

# ? Sep 23, 2015 19:06

baka kaba: Jul 19, 2003; PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

Logikv9 posted:

The new nexus looks like it crams Project Tango sensors in there or something.

That would be rad, getting the Tango stuff out into a more 'mainstream' device would be a good push

# ? Sep 23, 2015 19:08

deong: Jun 13, 2001; I'll see you in heck!

Syrinxx posted:

Thanks, I picked it up from Amazon who also have a great policy. I'll probably stick it out with 16GB and try the adopted storage thing; I'm kind of a hotsauce in that I buy a phone around every 10-12 months anyway.

I would genuinely like to know what in the gently caress is taking up 6.5GB of the storage on the X Pure though. Most stock-ish ROMs I've ever seen are less than 1GB

Isn't the 6gb a partition, not files? So it has room for updates etc. Some of that space would be empty but inaccessible.
Also, hasn't having 16GB been too small for like 2 years? Either iPhone or Android devices?

# ? Sep 23, 2015 19:26