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GotLag posted:Now that skyboxes work with DX11, I'm trying to make mine look less like rear end. Unfortunately DX11 does some on-the-fly adjustment depending on skybox brightness, so all my uploads look like washed-out poo poo. Make a new version, stick a link to it at the top of the old one. Change the name of the old one with a "(LEGACY VERSION)" at the end, and that should get at least some people coming to poke at the workshop page to see what's up.
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Regarding the ~0 stacks thing, if you open it up with SEToolbox, you'll see that the stack is no longer a whole number--it's a decimal of some sort. Somehow, the game managed to put .4 of a plate somewhere, or something. Gotta be a rounding error. Eject it to space, never speak of it again.
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XkyRauh posted:Regarding the ~0 stacks thing, if you open it up with SEToolbox, you'll see that the stack is no longer a whole number--it's a decimal of some sort. Somehow, the game managed to put .4 of a plate somewhere, or something. Gotta be a rounding error. Eject it to space, never speak of it again. Uhh... what if your ship only has internal hangar connectors and none that are open to space? 
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Sep 20, 2015 18:43
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Sep 20, 2015 18:47
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Uhh... what if your ship only has internal hangar connectors and none that are open to space? 
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Sep 20, 2015 19:55
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Uhh... what if your ship only has internal hangar connectors and none that are open to space? Eject it into the hangar, vent the hangar, duck?
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Sep 20, 2015 20:59
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LegoMan posted:If you can't eject things to space what do you do with stone Stone never even makes it to my mothership. The mining drones have four ejectors hooked up to conveyor sorters to throw out all the stone as they drill.
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Sep 21, 2015 01:50
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Stack-A-Station Workshop Comment posted:I'm confused as to where to get the other parts of this pod station. Sometimes I think I should stop trying to do clever things with projectors  . It's even obvious just from the thumbnail pic.LegoMan posted:If you can't eject things to space what do you do with stone Drill down to the ore vein with right-click before leaving the drone to drill automatically  . That oand dump it before delivering a mining drone back to the ship.
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Sep 21, 2015 04:02
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GotLag posted:Stone never even makes it to my mothership. The mining drones have four ejectors hooked up to conveyor sorters to throw out all the stone as they drill. Four?  Try 78, stone doesn't even touch the cargo containers.
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Sep 21, 2015 04:09
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If your ships don't have the ejector located at back so it looks like the ship is pooping stone then I don't even.
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HardDisk posted:If your ships don't have the ejector located at back so it looks like the ship is pooping stone then I don't even.  Made a quick effort to update mine and best I can manage is spraying them out to the sides, sadly. However it's fully capable of mining on its own. The trick's just to set it to constantly fire some of its thrusters forward until a sensor detects there's no asteroid right in front of it anymore. Granted, it might stop in a cave, but better than finding it went flying off into deep space.  The design's somewhat constrained because they're meant to be carried and deployed like so. Basically Jump to a suitable asteroid, set it down via remote control to start mining on its own, go back for another.   It's also the same way my Bumblepods are designed to get around for construction or looting work that doesn't directly involve the Battleship itself. Amechwarrior posted:Four? 
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HardDisk posted:If your ships don't have the ejector located at back so it looks like the ship is pooping stone then I don't even. I have a small ship miner with paired ejectors mounted upright behind the cockpit cab, so it looks like truck smokestacks! I need to update that actually, it had a great drill configuration but the design is from before sorters and oxygen. OTOH I avoid ejectors on large bulk miners, especially anything that's using gravity while mining. At that point throwing tons of rocks around is mildly dangerous (if they fall in gravity and hit something) and makes the game chug. Push it all into dedicated stone containers and dispose of it later. Amechwarrior posted:Sadly, I've realized the game actually suffers from a virtual Kessler effect. Too much space debris makes travel impossible due to collision detection lag. Anything smaller than blocks (rock & ore blocks, dropped components, etc) obeys the max objects limit, but stray chucks of armor or whatever else knocked off a ship when fighting does not.
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Klyith posted:Make sure you turn on "trash auto-removal" in the advanced settings for your world saves. That's a critical thing in a save where you're shooting at things and producing wreckage. I actually have a few questions about this feature. Does it work on dedicated servers at all? How can I test that it's working? I know for a fact that it's enabled on the infinite server my friend runs, but then we end up with tons of debris floating around millions of KM away from us after we blow poo poo up or even just eject some stone in to the void to prevent post-mining lag. We have to use SEToolbox to manually delete all floating items and those random 1-2 blocks of ship that end up crossing the galaxy and this is where we learn that the scrap has traveled so far. I've read the KSH post about the trash removal rules, but it seems like it isn't working at all.
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If I was the .98 iron plate goon, I would have loaded that platelet into a ramming ship and let it go in a blaze of glory. Dead pirates and dead aspiring platelets cause no !Exceptions.
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Amechwarrior posted:I actually have a few questions about this feature. Does it work on dedicated servers at all? How can I test that it's working? I don't know... It should work on dedicated servers if it's working at all. Scanning through the keen forums, you get people who say that it's not working, and people who say that it's working too much because it's deleting parts connected to a rotor head. But my experience running a little dedicated server (2-3 people) was that occasionally it would get super laggy, and just having everyone disconnect for half a minute then get back on would cure it. Could be that when you stop the server to use SEtoolbox to clean stuff out, the second part was actually totally superfluous and restarting the server was what fixed the lag. I don't even think that a grid object drifting 1000km away has much performance impact. The game only calculates physics & collisions in a zone around the players, I'm pretty sure.
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The game has little to nothing in the way of optimization at the moment, so just plain server memory leaks are very much a thing, too. Restarting frees up the memory and makes things run faster until the junk data starts building up again.
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Amechwarrior posted:Four? My drones only have four drills. That blueprint's a bit out of date, the sorters are immediately before the ejectors.
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HardDisk posted:If your ships don't have the ejector located at back so it looks like the ship is pooping stone then I don't even.
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Sep 21, 2015 15:25
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I have another small drone with an assload of batteries and a rotor-mounted gravity generator which I park by my mine site. Set the range to maximum, aim it at the sun, and stone ejected by miners is flung away.
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GotLag posted:I have another small drone with an assload of batteries and a rotor-mounted gravity generator which I park by my mine site. Set the range to maximum, aim it at the sun, and stone ejected by miners is flung away. Why not just jettison it vertically out of the mined hole into space?
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Why not just jettison it vertically out of the mined hole into space? It's tidier
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  So, uh, the Avalon's now got Shields as well as triple-layer armor. 700,000 points worth, or however you want to quantify the units. There's two rows of Shield Generators stacked vertically between the Hyperdrive ones, with enough room for access to all the upgrade slots. Each Shield Generator has two pairs each of Capacitors (more shield capacity) and the recharge blocks. At the very least it should cut down on accidental back-stabbing between the Heavy Defense Turrets.  I also sorted the area between the Gravity Cannons into something livable and sealed-off. Before it was just an ugly kitchen sink of O2 tanks and Jump Drives stuffed in. The blue line and catwalk's a general warning for the lack of gravity in the middle area (a necessity for the gravity cannons). The Jump Drives are just for an emergency getaway if the Hyperdrives are still charging. Or if the ship gets cut in half and both pieces need to flee.
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Is "Target Missiles" completely useless? I'm building my first large combat ship and was going to use interior turrets as an Anti-Missile System. However during testing I found that interior and full size Gatling turrets can't shoot down missiles headed right at them even from near max range. They have too little time to track and put enough bullets on target before impact. Even with a testing rig, 10 interior or 4 Gatling turrets, not once was a missile stopped before hitting the target from 700-800m away. Turrets were set to only target missiles, no idle animation, 800m range. Oddly, when this same rig is set to anti-meteor it works fine vs meteors. I only need about 375m turret range to track and kill an incoming meteor. It looks like the turrets are perfect shots vs meteors but crap against missiles. The turrets seem great at leading a target with a constant velocity, even at 104m/s. Either missiles are traveling much faster (I think they do, but not sure) or they are acting like real missiles by constantly accelerating or both. Either way, the "Target Missiles" setting is just a waste of ammo.
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Amechwarrior posted:Is "Target Missiles" completely useless? Placement is as important as quantity. Missiles are indeed much faster than meteors (otherwise firing them off at 104.4m/s would make your ship explode when it crashes into them immediately like they used to) and you really need to spread your turrets out across the ship if you're only adding a few. That way you'll likely have at least one that's facing them relatively head-on and stand a much better chance of popping it. The alternative is to place them in big AA/AM banks and use mass-fire to saturate the skies and increase the odds of a hit  .
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Amechwarrior posted:Is "Target Missiles" completely useless? quote:Oddly, when this same rig is set to anti-meteor it works fine vs meteors. I only need about 375m turret range to track and kill an incoming meteor. It looks like the turrets are perfect shots vs meteors but crap against missiles. You can overcome that with a big enough number of turrets, or with a gimmick of recessed turrets with walls that keep their attention focused upwards. I had a design that would protect a small solar farm fairly well at the "storms" level. Wasn't enough at armageddon, I think the bigger meteors may also take more than one hit to kill. But the sun rotation made it obsolete.
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Speaking of turrets, the Avalon's now gained a full set of internal turrets. Just one or two in each compartment (except CIC, which has four), but I figure if someone manages to get inside the ship in-force they're probably already hurting badly in the attempt or really committed.  I'm going to see if I can use the Configurable LCD Script to try and rig up one of the CIC displays to list the ammo contents of them all.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Speaking of turrets Didn't one of the mod packs you recommended include a flak cannon thing?
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I don't know if any of you watch w4stedspace on youtube, but he got a bunch of devs in chat on his stream answering and asking a few questions. He's going to have a interview with a couple of them for his next patch video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApvlWkrkhnA Also a new finished hull, still working on the interior. Building asymmetrically is a bit of a pain, but I really like how the side thrusters turned out. The other stuff in the shots are the unfinished hull of the destroyer-type ship that I'm using the same side thruster design for, my other ship with the GPC now with a blue-gray paint, and a concept broadside for a battleship.     Mods are great for tons of glowy poo poo in reactor rooms. 
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I really hope they add projection map support for lights at some point because it would go a long way to making the lighting look cooler, even if only for some objects.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Speaking of turrets, the Avalon's now gained a full set of internal turrets. Just one or two in each compartment (except CIC, which has four), but I figure if someone manages to get inside the ship in-force they're probably already hurting badly in the attempt or really committed. How does this deal with a lance ship?
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Klyith posted:It won't shoot down friendly missiles, so if you are testing in creative mode you need to change the other ship to a different owner. That wasn't a problem. I had a "Nobody" turret on a spinning platform with a timer block set to constantly shoot missiles at the target block. The "Me" owned turrets would try to shoot down the missiles, just fail badly at it. I learned the same things you posted about meteors incoming angle and recessed turrets back when building my first large ship, our server was going to go storms enabled before the pirate update gave us something else to survive against. The missiles are just too fast or too tough for the number of turrets tested.  Neddy Seagoon posted:That way you'll likely have at least one that's facing them relatively head-on and stand a much better chance of popping it. Here is a screen of the test bed I had setup. The missiles were coming at the target more or less head on already. I'm only looking at building a smaller corvette type of combat ship able to quickly and safely take over pirate bases and any reinforcements called. This 10 interior/4 Gatling AMS setup was my "ludicrous" number as that was way more turrets then I had planned on having dedicated to AMS per side. Earlier tests had the turrets on the face of the armor slab (its a 10x10x10 heavy armor chuck) but this didn't change the ineffectiveness of the turrets as the missiles would take some out as they impacted the target.  I may go back and make the whole target face int. turrets just for testing. If 100 of them can't then why bother.
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Welp, looks like the patch broke my survival world save. RIP.
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Spookydonut posted:How does this deal with a lance ship? Three+ layers of heavy armor and a shitload of broadside turrets .Time for patch notes. Watch the video, if only for the demo about the exploding landing gear fix at the end.  .quote:Summary I look forward to that new Carrier finding me.
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So happy they fixed the landing gear. Been hating that bug for a while.
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The new small-block turrets are nice, but I wish the bases were flat instead of octagonal. I tweaked my shuttle a little to replace the the OKI Gatling turret it had with one. Probably for the best anyway, so it can actually use looted ammo from derelicts .edit: Also looks like there's actually some performance improvement with this week's patch, because holy crap my battleship's a shade less chuggy  .
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Welding/grinding seems to be causing random explosions on large ship grids for me, it might be caused by (and is definitely causing) decompression events.
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Hotfix time.quote:EDIT 09/25/15: Also be aware a few mods and scripts are broken as of the latest patch, because apparently KSH changed some code classes. Including the Configurable LCD script  .
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Landing gear fix is great. The side effects of causing control lock-out when you attach to another ship are amusing, but in some ways make for good RP. (obviously your ship's computer disengages the engines when set the parking brake!) About the only downside I see from it is that a limpet-mine type thing is now impossible. Upside, towing ships around with a tub boat works great. How does it work when connecting to asteroids? That's not a grid merger, so it can't be doing the same thing as locking to a ship. The small turrets are pretty reasonably balanced. Gatling shoots half as fast as a large ship one, which is good enough against light targets but not terribly effective against anything heavy. Missile turret fires 1/3 the speed of a large one. That's probably as low as you can go and still have them usable, though IMO any type of turreted missile on small ships is a bit OP. The main thing though is that both the small turrets have a max range of only 600m rather than 800m. So if you're attacking a large ship you need to come well inside their gun envelope to use them. They're also nearly as expensive as large turrets. My verdict: as long as it's possible to make stuff like this the small turrets are ok by comparison.
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