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Today Porsche announced a 300mi range sporty EV and Audi announced a 310mi SUV. I guess this EV thing is actually gonna happen.
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Sep 16, 2015 19:01
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Pryor on Fire posted:Today Porsche announced a 300mi range sporty EV and Audi announced a 310mi SUV. I guess this EV thing is actually gonna happen. That 300 mile quote is based on the European test cycle which is about 20-30% more generous than the EPA cycle so the real world range will probably be comparable to the 85 KWh Model S variants.
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Sep 16, 2015 19:07
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When's Tesla's Model X supposed to come out? Competing with Audi of all companies for the SUV market seems pretty tough.
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Sep 16, 2015 19:25
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New GM: Same as the old GM. Have they had a product launch or relaunch in the past ten years that they didn't cock up, that didn't have "Corvette" on the front fascia?  Edit: I never noticed that the commissar smiles at the end. 
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Sep 17, 2015 16:30
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The comments say a dealer in Maryland is telling potential customers GM is not allowing him to sell out of state. Super lame. I was going to check out an out of state one when they launched but why bother. I am afraid to play the waiting game because it could be a damned year before I can buy a 2017 Volt if this crap is true. Has anyone driven a plug in Prius? I am going to look at a 2013 Volt this weekend and the dealer has a 2012 plug in Prius also. They are both the exact same price (14,900). Both have 30k miles. I am going to check it out. I love driving my GF's Volt but the cargo space and lack of a roof rack has me second guessing my decision about buying one. You can't even put golf clubs in the trunk without dropping a seat. I surf and windsurf and while I can use my truck, it would be much nicer to get 2.5x the milage by taking a car to the beach instead of my truck. I am not sure what a Prius offers for trunk space, but I know it has several roof rack options and the trunk can't be smaller!
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Sep 17, 2015 23:31
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My boss just told me last night he was thinking of keeping his leased Prius plug-in because he likes it so much. He can charge at work.
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Sep 18, 2015 21:00
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Regular 2010 prius here but surfboards fit great inside. Longboards too if you're by yourself. I think people fit 10 foot boards inside. I only have shortboards though.
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Sep 18, 2015 23:41
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The plug in Prius only gets like 11 miles per charge so it doesn't really seem worth it except for the fact every used regular Prius I see from that model year has like 90,000 miles and is only like a grand less than this plug in one with 30,000. I'll let you guys know what I think this afternoon. A 10 foot board doesn't seem possible. My short board is 6'4 but my windsurfing boards are both massive. One is like 4 feet wide (low wind) and the other is 12 feet long. That is why people smarter than me invented roof racks. edit I called the dealer on the way and they told me they had it charged up. I get there and the dealer is driving it, I guess to make sure everything is working, and he killed the entire charge. They were nice enough to offer to let me sit there for 2 hours while they charged it again (hah) Ribsauce fucked around with this message at 19:33 on Sep 19, 2015 |
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Sep 19, 2015 14:06
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Ugh that kind of thing is why I kinda hate hybrids. They often end up being a weird mix of the worst of "both worlds". Apparently the plugin option is like god expensive but it can only go 11 miles? Like, why? 
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Sep 20, 2015 02:51
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Boten Anna posted:Ugh that kind of thing is why I kinda hate hybrids. They often end up being a weird mix of the worst of "both worlds". Apparently the plugin option is like god expensive but it can only go 11 miles? Like, why? Lithium ion batteries are expensive. The regular Prius uses NiMH to keep the price low
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Sep 20, 2015 04:24
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The price difference is thousands of dollars, enough to imply that they didn't put cheapshit batteries in it. Like I expected it to get 20-30 miles.
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Sep 20, 2015 09:03
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It’s always annoyed me when I’m driving a hybrid on a long downhill grade, the battery fills up, and I have to waste energy by engine‐braking. It would help if drivers were given just a little control over state of charge, e.g. to tell the car when there’s a long downhill segment coming up so it can draw down the battery in anticipation. If you don’t trust the driver not to abuse the control and hurt the battery’s lifespan, tie into the navigation system to get elevation data. It’s something of an irrational irritation because it usually doesn’t waste all that much energy when it occurs, and it doesn’t come up in most locales. Still, the thought has occurred to me that a larger battery pack would help with this issue, in addition to being nice for very short trips.
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Sep 20, 2015 09:30
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Boten Anna posted:Ugh that kind of thing is why I kinda hate hybrids. They often end up being a weird mix of the worst of "both worlds". Apparently the plugin option is like god expensive but it can only go 11 miles? Like, why? I really did like the Prius though. I could see it holding golf clubs, surfboards, and whatever else I needed, with a roof rack for windsurfing (or take my truck). However, it is difficult to consider any other vehicle when I can get a brand new fully loaded Volt for 20k after the rebate. It is hard to justify paying 15k for a used vehicle with 35k miles (or more).
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Sep 20, 2015 14:19
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Priuses are weirdly roomy, like leafs are pretty decently sized and there's not much my wife's Matrix can do that my Leaf can't cargo-wise, but Priuses are made of the same poo poo the Tardis is I think.
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Sep 21, 2015 08:02
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Boten Anna posted:Priuses are weirdly roomy, like leafs are pretty decently sized and there's not much my wife's Matrix can do that my Leaf can't cargo-wise, but Priuses are made of the same poo poo the Tardis is I think. If only they were, I might be able to get some of the time I spend communing in mine back.
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Sep 21, 2015 08:52
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Boten Anna posted:Ugh that kind of thing is why I kinda hate hybrids. They often end up being a weird mix of the worst of "both worlds". Apparently the plugin option is like god expensive but it can only go 11 miles? Like, why? Rumor has it the 4th generation Pruis will increase the plug-in range to something useful (around 30 miles).
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Sep 21, 2015 23:34
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Tesla have sent out invites to the presumed Model X launch next week. Although I suspect it'll have even bigger supply issues over the model s.
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Sep 22, 2015 09:14
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Even as a huge Tesla fanboy, I bet those drat gullwing doors will have leaks or other issues.
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Sep 22, 2015 09:41
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Cockmaster posted:Rumor has it the 4th generation Pruis will increase the plug-in range to something useful (around 30 miles). If the Prius I looked at got over 30 a charge I probably would have bought it. 30 on a charge could get me no gas usage probably 25 days a month (unless the engine really does randomly kick on all the time). 11 miles and I'm using gas every day. I really wish the Volt had the Prius backseat and trunk. Everything else about it kicks total rear end. I'd have one in the driveway right now except for those two things 
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Sep 22, 2015 15:24
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Ribsauce posted:Will it be able to use battery exclusively for the first 30 miles like the Volt? The way I understood it the gas motor still kicks on if you break 60 or at other random times even when you still have a charge? I do not know if this is true because the dealer drained it before I got there. But I'm a serial hybrid fanboy, so take what you will from that.
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Sep 22, 2015 16:20
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For pure hybrids are Priuses better than the alternatives? My Leaf's lease is up in 7 months and I'm debating options and all the talk of hybrids has me wondering. Is Prius still top of the hill, or do alternatives like the Accord hybrid have compelling enough features and lifetime in them to look at them? All pending I don't just suck it up and save for a Tesla 3 by the end of the decade.
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Sep 22, 2015 17:57
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I wish Tesla would stop pushing software updates without new release notes.
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Sep 22, 2015 18:05
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Mortanis posted:For pure hybrids are Priuses better than the alternatives? My Leaf's lease is up in 7 months and I'm debating options and all the talk of hybrids has me wondering. Is Prius still top of the hill, or do alternatives like the Accord hybrid have compelling enough features and lifetime in them to look at them? The prius is long proven and are everywhere, the volt is apparently pretty good. Unless you needed something very specific that neither offered I would stick with those two.
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Sep 22, 2015 18:30
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Also the Chevy Bolt is claiming a 200 mile range when it comes out in a year or two.
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Sep 22, 2015 19:28
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Mange Mite posted:Also the Chevy Bolt is claiming a 200 mile range when it comes out in a year or two. They're really going to have Volt and Bolt? That is ridiculous.
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Sep 22, 2015 20:09
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Just wait until they announced the Jolt!
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Sep 22, 2015 20:31
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Subjunctive posted:They're really going to have Volt and Bolt? That is ridiculous. Chevrolet Marketing should be loving hung.
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Sep 22, 2015 23:16
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We should revolt.
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Sep 22, 2015 23:49
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Wamsutta posted:Just wait until they announced the Jolt!
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Sep 23, 2015 06:00
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MrYenko posted:Chevrolet Marketing should be loving hung. Hell of a moving target considering they switch ad agencies every few years and dont even have a chirf officer of marketing roomforthetuna posted:I think there'll be a bigger backlash when they go with the Dolt. The dolt actually predates the volt. Hes gone now but his dumb dick decisions remain
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Sep 23, 2015 06:07
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roomforthetuna posted:I think there'll be a bigger backlash when they go with the Dolt. They’ll shed their old image with the Moult.
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Sep 23, 2015 07:11
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Dodge is already prepping their lawsuit for the Chevy Colt. (As a side note, wow Chrome spell check. It has "Colt" as misspelled following Chevy, it suggests Volt instead.)
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Sep 23, 2015 14:21
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http://www.wsj.com/articles/apple-speeds-up-electric-car-work-1442857105 Apple has just formally confirmed that they will in fact, be working on an electric car, with a planned launch date sometime in 2019. Contrary to previous rumors, they won't be aiming for Google-level autonomy right away (though it is still a long-term goal). What are the odds that they'll actually end up with something worth a crap? 2019 is far enough out that Tesla could beat them to market with the Model 3 by a year or two. If they're not aiming for real autonomous driving, what could they bring to the table that'd attract interest?
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Sep 25, 2015 03:11
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Cockmaster posted:http://www.wsj.com/articles/apple-speeds-up-electric-car-work-1442857105 White plastic exterior with a softly glowing logo? (brushed metal finish available on the Pro trim level)
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Sep 25, 2015 03:46
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Will they go the phone route and refine 2-3 year old hardware? Or the computer route and just use the same hardware as everyone else but charge 3x the price?
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Sep 25, 2015 05:02
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Godholio posted:Will they go the phone route and refine 2-3 year old hardware? Or the computer route and just use the same hardware as everyone else but charge 3x the price? After 2 years of ownership, they push a software update to the car and now every time you load the maps app, it crashes. Into a bridge abutment.
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Sep 25, 2015 05:11
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Immediately after a new model is announced, the rate of iCars driving into bodies of water will increase sharply.
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Sep 25, 2015 07:38
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At least Apple's dream of having one clicky wheel to control everything would make sense now.
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Sep 25, 2015 10:39
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Instead of a steering wheel it just has a big touchpad with multitouch where you perform gestures to control the car.
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Sep 25, 2015 11:15
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You have to buy an aftermarket clear plastic film to apply to the windscreen to protect from scratches and getting smashed by a rock. They also sell a variety of silicon rubber surrounds you can put over the car to protect it in parking lots.
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