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Evil Badman posted:If for any reason either of you haven't played the Arkham series, Shadows of Mordor is the same combat system. Go play Arkham City. After playing those you should play Mad Max. It has the same combat system and some fantastic vehicle gameplay.
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scamtank posted:Try being suspicious with the cardboard box in a a low-moderate alert area sometime. It's a ride from start to finish. Do it a few more times and when they come over to investigate, abandon the box there. There's a much funnier radio conversation that can ensue if you've made them suspicious enough to shoot the now-empty box.
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Smelly posted:After playing those you should play Mad Max. It has the same combat system and some fantastic vehicle gameplay. Also try Sleeping Dogs if you haven't, it has a similar combat system and some fun driving as well. It also times how long you can go without driving like a lunatic.
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Sep 26, 2015 13:31
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So, thanks to this thread I bought MGSV yesterday and played through the first few missions, and I'm really enjoying it. I've never played a Metal Gear Solid game before, and have Zero familiarity with the underlying story. I thought it was neat that You wake up from a coma, having lost all your memories, oh look a military incursion, they're here to kill you, gotta escape... What the incredible gently caress is going on.
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Sep 26, 2015 13:38
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Trust me, it's not really any different if you know all the games. Matter of fact I don't think it ever really clears up.
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Sep 26, 2015 13:47
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It does. Mostly. But yeah, basically the entire plot until you get the true ending (and listen to the tapes you get afterwards) is absolutely bonkers and incomprehensible. It owns
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Sep 26, 2015 14:00
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My Lovely Horse posted:Trust me, it's not really any different if you know all the games. Matter of fact I don't think it ever really clears up. Eh, yes and no. It's a sequel to two games, prequel to the others. It stands on its own very well and for the most part all you really get is explanations that weren't completely necessary to enjoy the games they explain. The downside is that this is probably one of the best MGS games in that it's really open in how you can approach most scenarios and while it favors stealth, you can definitely just go in guns blazing which earlier games didn't really let you do as well. Going back to the old games will be rough.
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Sep 26, 2015 14:25
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Nuebot posted:Eh, yes and no. It's a sequel to two games, prequel to the others. It stands on its own very well and for the most part all you really get is explanations that weren't completely necessary to enjoy the games they explain. The downside is that this is probably one of the best MGS games in that it's really open in how you can approach most scenarios and while it favors stealth, you can definitely just go in guns blazing which earlier games didn't really let you do as well. Going back to the old games will be rough. MGS4 is the middle ground between the older games' handling and the newer games' shooter controls and light platforming. I never played Subsistence but I know the camera got reworked during that time so you don't have to deal with fixed angles anymore. One of the better changes the newer games do is they don't have a big flashing red alert screen when you're in combat mode. That would discourage gunfights back then even in 4 which introduced the war economy that would be the precursor to weapon development in the Big Boss games.
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Sep 26, 2015 15:23
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I enjoyed V so much that I'm actually thinking about finally playing 4. I've gone insane.
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Sep 26, 2015 15:30
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Lunchmeat Larry posted:I enjoyed V so much that I'm actually thinking about finally playing 4. I've gone insane. 4 is Kojima at his most Kojima, for better or worse. If you have the time to sit around and watch a few hours' worth of cutscenes while you sneak around go for it. It has my favorite boss fights in the series.
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Sep 26, 2015 15:59
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Nuebot posted:Also try Sleeping Dogs if you haven't, it has a similar combat system and some fun driving as well. It also times how long you can go without driving like a lunatic. Just don't do it after playing Saints Row, where it times you on how long you can drive like a lunatic and gives you respect for near misses.
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Sep 26, 2015 16:30
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Mokinokaro posted:Do it a few more times and when they come over to investigate, abandon the box there. There's a much funnier radio conversation that can ensue if you've made them suspicious enough to shoot the now-empty box. How do you abandon the box?
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Sep 26, 2015 18:18
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Play Peace Walker.
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Thin Privilege posted:How do you abandon the box? Press square when you're stationary and Snake will fling himself out the front. If you're on the move he'll jump forward while still in the box and ride it down hills. 
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Sep 26, 2015 18:23
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Thin Privilege posted:How do you abandon the box? press the dive button. make sure you're facing away from the guards or you'll pop out in front of them.
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Sep 26, 2015 18:24
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If you're in low profile instead of just crouch, Snake will crawl himself out instead of flinging himself out. Especially useful with the horizontal pinup posters you can put on the box.
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Sep 26, 2015 19:46
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RareAcumen posted:Play Peace Walker. No please don't.
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Sep 26, 2015 19:49
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Lady Naga posted:No please don't. Don't troll
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Sep 26, 2015 20:10
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Alaois posted:Don't troll Peace Walker is incredibly bad.
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Sep 26, 2015 20:17
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Peace Walker received HD re-releases on PS3 and Xbox360. Play Peace Walker. (HD)
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Sep 26, 2015 20:22
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Lady Naga posted:Peace Walker is incredibly bad. I think you mean oppressively good.
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Sep 26, 2015 20:22
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FauxGateau posted:I think you mean oppressively good. It requires dozens of hours of grinding for the true ending, the bosses have health pools balanced for 2-3 people even in single player, Hayter sounds like a garbage disposal, and you can't even crawl under trucks to hide. It's really bad.
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Sep 26, 2015 20:25
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Lady Naga posted:It requires dozens of hours of grinding for the true ending, the bosses have health pools balanced for 2-3 people even in single player, Hayter sounds like a garbage disposal, and you can't even crawl under trucks to hide. It's really bad. "Dozens of hours" if you really suck at it maybe. I got the true end at 20 hours' playtime, pretty normal for a Metal Gear.
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Sep 26, 2015 20:26
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Dewgy posted:"Dozens of hours" if you really suck at it maybe. I got the true end at 20 hours' playtime, pretty normal for a Metal Gear. It will take several hours of nothing but fighting bosses over and over again to get all the parts needed for Zeke alone, not to mention all the other arbitrary requirements. The only way you can get it in a regular playthrough is if you're incredibly lucky. Also introducing Huey was really stupid but Hot Coldman is cool.
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Sep 26, 2015 20:30
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Peace walker is fantastic, really.
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Sep 26, 2015 20:33
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Naga is definitely wrong, play Peace Walker so you can fight monsters and learn how to meow from a cat E: also go on a date with Miller
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Sep 26, 2015 20:34
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It's also clearly meant for a pick up and play style mobile device experience. If you want to play the HD Remaster on your slick plasma screen most of your time will be spent fumbling around menus since it's divided into mission chunks of maybe 3-4 minutes.death .cab for qt posted:Naga is definitely wrong, play Peace Walker so you can fight monsters and learn how to meow from a cat If all you care about is dumb silly extra content that sounds a lot better on paper than actually playing it, just go watch Silent Hill 2's dog ending on a loop and save your thirty or forty dollars or whatever.
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death .cab for qt posted:Naga is definitely wrong, play Peace Walker so you can fight monsters and learn how to meow from a cat  There's a good three or so dozen different phrases but why bother?
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Sep 26, 2015 20:37
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Lady Naga posted:It will take several hours of nothing but fighting bosses over and over again to get all the parts needed for Zeke alone, not to mention all the other arbitrary requirements. The only way you can get it in a regular playthrough is if you're incredibly lucky. The non-bonus bosses are super easy to take down in minutes once your weapons are upgraded. The PKM just shreds them to pieces and you get tons of parts by aiming for the AI core only. 
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Sep 26, 2015 20:37
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Dewgy posted:The non-bonus bosses are super easy to take down in minutes once your weapons are upgraded. The PKM just shreds them to pieces and you get tons of parts by aiming for the AI core only. Boy that sounds like a fun experience!
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Sep 26, 2015 20:38
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Lady Naga posted:Boy that sounds like a fun experience! It... was? Seriously if you managed to need dozens of hours to beat PW, I hate to break it to you, but you're bad at video games.
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Sep 26, 2015 20:40
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Dewgy posted:It... was? Seriously if you managed to need dozens of hours to beat PW, I hate to break it to you, but you're bad at video games. I mean if your idea of fun is repeatedly fighting the same bosses over and over again with no challenge, hoping that the RNG gives you exactly what you need in the shortest time possible then you might as well just go play roulette or something.
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Sep 26, 2015 20:42
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Lady Naga posted:I mean if your idea of fun is repeatedly fighting the same bosses over and over again with no challenge, hoping that the RNG gives you exactly what you need in the shortest time possible then you might as well just go play roulette or something. It was like three boss fights to have everything I needed. It really wasn't that bad. Speaking of Peace Walker actually I really liked how in the bonus missions with ghosts, you could beat the ghosts by resuscitating their bodies. Then fultoning them.
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Sep 26, 2015 20:44
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Lady Naga posted:I mean if your idea of fun is repeatedly fighting the same bosses over and over again with no challenge, hoping that the RNG gives you exactly what you need in the shortest time possible then you might as well just go play roulette or something. Or you can team up with a few buds, drink beers, and fight a giant ai-controlled monster with a human slingshot or rail gun. The fights themselves are fun, especially in co-op, which is the focus of the initial post game before the TRUE FINAL BOSS. Did you even play this part of the game or are you just poo pooing it based on the perceived slight of a video game having replayable sections you run through a handful of times to unlock cool stuff
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Sep 26, 2015 20:49
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death .cab for qt posted:Or you can team up with a few buds, drink beers, and fight a giant ai-controlled monster with a human slingshot or rail gun. The fights themselves are fun, especially in co-op, which is the focus of the initial post game before the TRUE FINAL BOSS. Why should you even need to do that for the true ending? What other Metal Gear game in the history of the series locks plot-relevant information behind grinding?
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Sep 26, 2015 20:52
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Lady Naga posted:I mean if your idea of fun is repeatedly fighting the same bosses over and over again with no challenge, hoping that the RNG gives you exactly what you need in the shortest time possible then you might as well just go play roulette or something. You seem really upset that other people might have enjoyed this game that you don't like.
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Geniasis posted:You seem really upset that other people might have enjoyed this game that you don't like. "Daikatana is a bad game" "I disagree" "No really, it's bad. It's riddled with bugs, the level design sucks, it's half-finished and none of the weapons feel good to use." "GEE WHY ARE YOU GETTING SO MAD THAT PEOPLE LIKE A GAME YOU DON'T LIKE!?"
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See though, this conversation is more like: "Peace Walker is a bad game." "I disagree" (x10) "NO, YOU HAVE TO GRIND TO GET THE TRUE ENDING AND YOU CAN'T GO UNDER CARS AND IT WASN'T FUN." Like, at a certain point you just have to say that maybe it's just not your kind of game, or that it's not what you want out of MGS instead of just saying that it's awful over and over.
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Sep 26, 2015 21:06
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Lady Naga posted:"Daikatana is a bad game" i bet it took you dozens of hours to finish "you have to burn the rope" too
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SomeIdiot posted:See though, this conversation is more like: I mean except for the part where I had multiple points of contention which everyone ignored to harp specifically on the fact that I had used the wording "dozens of hours" and that I never used the term "fun" once and the weird tone arguments everyone always jumps on me for since I apparently sound "upset" the minute I disagree with anyone and...
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