poptart_fairy posted:

Had a hermaphrodite as a supporting character.

death .cab for qt posted:

Who? What? The gently caress? Are you talking about the weaponized kid who gets turned into a giant doll?

Pwnstar posted:

Perhaps rather than "becoming" Jack the Ripper I could have said he assumes the mantle. The events of the game push him further and further towards this event but thats not really who he "was" at thbeginning. It's the end of a path he reached after rejecting the peaceful life he had attained at the end of MGS4. Just like Big Boss, killing bad people doesn't mean you aren't also bad. At the end of the game after he has embraced his new self and specifically chosen Big Boss's path he has cut ties with all his friends and support network. He's no longer even a person, simply another weapon in a war without end.

WaltherFeng posted:

So, MGSV is game that takes hundreds of hours to complete and has potentially infinite replayability... And at the end the game takes away one of your buddies permanently.

Can't help but to commendate Kojima for such a ballsy choice.

Snak posted:

So it's completely confirmed that after you lose Quiet and then redo missions 11 and 14, you don't get her back? Because I assume this, but every time someone brings it up, no one has confirmed.

I can't test it because I haven't lost Quiet yet.

SpaceWolfPurrp posted:

So did anyone else get Code Talker watching on from the background during the Quiet/Big Boss rain scene? It was right before it ends when Quiet is walking away, Code Talker's just chillin there in his wheelchair and it makes everything so much better.

poptart_fairy posted:

Reminds me of my favourite conversation from Revengeance:


MGS protagonists are such dorks.

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:

I want to think he saw The Boss and Ocelot doing the rain scene.

"loving bilagaana"

Shine posted:

Blade Wolf: I am setting goal markers on your soliton radar.
Raiden: Hmm. Good boy.
Blade Wolf: I will ignore the condescension and take that as a compliment.

And, of course, the greatest line in Metal Gear history.

CJacobs posted:

Sorry, I think you meant to link this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmmQxXPOMMY

Ekusukariba posted:

Actual best lines coming through https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NzkY-4owW0

CJacobs posted:

Related:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohDvQGGZzfI

"We've managed to avoid drowning!"

"Good job."

Castor Poe posted:

This is the part that solidified my love for Raiden and reinforced my belief that he's the best character in the series:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryp44Tm_c0M#t=1m37

Romes128 posted:

2 is good but you have to tolerate some irritating dialogue. Not ham fisted and weird poo poo like some of the other games, but every time someone tells Raiden something he answers back the same thing in the form of a question. "The Patriots are behind this" "The Patriots? " Or "They have a metal gear" "A metal gear?" It's seriously annoying once you notice he does it in almost every conversation.

Shine posted:

And the codec conversation afterward where it turned out he sincerely thought that was a normal everyday outfit, and not the equivalent of somebody trying to blend into a US city by dressing like George Clinton.

Castor Poe posted:

Now imagine Raiden trying to pass incognito in an Indian reservation.

Drinkfist posted:

Hideo Kojima was given 50-70 Million Bucks to make Metal Gear Solid 4 and Three years of development after it was announced in 2005. MGS4 was also directed and written by Shuyo Murata with Hideo Kojima being tacked on later in the project when psychopathic fans sent Konami death threats even after Hideo said Snake Eater was gonna be the last one and if there was gonna be a fourth he was gonna have someone else write and direct it.

Now we have Hideo here with a 80 Million + budget and solo directing and their very own "Best Engine in the World" in house Fox Engine with another Three years of development from announcement and the Release of Ground Zeroes as a sort of prologue. In return we get a game that is literally unfinished.

- The story is a complete unholy mess and 70+% of it is in the audio cassettes.
- It is clearly apparent to anyone that plays the game that it feels like they cut a third zone out. Not to mention that Africa is filled with massive pockets of negative possibility space.
- They cut out the conclusion to the Eli arc. http://imgur.com/a/TcS6c
- The FOB system is loving weird.
- They padded the gently caress out of Missions and Side Ops with a large number of them taking place in the same part of the world with nearly identical objectives.

Even with all the signs of desperation I see to pad out the game its still a really fun open world game. My issue is that it isn't a loving Metal Gear game.

Metal gear games are all about being on a single mission to get something done. There is a leader bad guy and he has a team of loving weirdos with superpowers and insane rants and they are standing in your way. There is a bunch of people calling you on the radio to update you on the situation and progressing the story. There are a fuckton of cutscenes to the point it is almost a loving movie. The plot twists and turns like a roller coaster as something that should be straightforward is skewed heavily by complications. You could never tell what was gonna happen next. The boss fights were stacked against you and sneaking though areas without detection were far more intense.

Instead what I got was a mission that I am constantly told is "Kill Skull Face" and then I do everything but that and he ends up being foiled by something I had nothing to do with. His three "weirdos" literally have zero dialogue and personality. Miller and Ocelot are on the radio simply narrating your actions. There is is only a handful of cutscenes that are super short. The entire story could be predicted easily hours beforehand. The major boss fights of the game could either be cheesed with a loving tank and walker at your disposal or you could one shot the boss and even had the choice to walk away from the fight entirely. I didn't even have to move from the starting position to clear the Quiet fight on extreme. Every loving mission where you could stealth is ruined with traq sniper rifles and folton spam, there is no intensity when you also have buddies that can kill everyone for you or just drop a loving bomb on their base and never set off an alarm. Its a loving cake walk.

This is a Grand Theft Auto/Far Cry sandbox game with Metal Gear characters in it.

They missed their own theme. They poorly planned their game out with the massive budget at their disposal. They padded the gently caress out of the content. They took us all to the beach and showed us the sand but forgot they were supposed to build a castle. Then this rear end in a top hat who sold me this has the loving balls to release a video about how awesome he is and that cancer kids were literally dying to play it. He didn't make a Metal Gear game is my problem. I paid sixty bucks for something else. It is fun, but it is not what I wanted.

Metal Gear Solid 5 Budget
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/mgs-5-phantom-pain-cost-konami-over-80m-fuelling-speculation-hideo-kojima-split-1513796

Metal Gear Solid 4 Budget
https://web.archive.org/web/20131106085806/http://blog.knowyourmoney.co.uk/index.php/2008/08/10-most-expensive-video-game-budgets-ever

In It For The Tank posted:

If you replay Mission 43 (the Quarantine Mission), do you actually lose all the staff and heroism all over again or does the game throw you a bone and just simulate the losses? I don't want to risk finding out.

Aurain posted:

e: I didn't find it Archaea EX any harder than usual without Quiet because the Serval is a monster and hangar roof strats are nigh on infallible.

Vic Boss posted:

Posted this in the other MGS thread but this one seems more active for near-end-of-game stuff:

So uh I'm on the same boat as I'm sure 99% of players are at end game in that I didn't use a butterfly emblem before Quiet ran away.

However, I haven't done any of the missions after she runs away in order to find her. Is there any way I can mod her back or retrieve an old steam cloud file to just before the Huey trial? I want to save her story arc end for after I'm done with the rest of the game. I know that once she dies in the Disappearance mission you can mod her back in, but not before that? I don't want to do that series of missions now.

Shine posted:

Castor Poe posted:

GERONIMO!

*Raiden gets on a cyborg war horse and flies off into the distance*