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A White Guy posted:Is it still possible to gen a world wherein one race has been utterly wiped out? Is it still possible to go into the world, and perform the racial genocide yourself? Yes to both. For the first one, you just have to generate a world and leave it for a couple thousand of years until there's only one (civilized) race dominating the world. For the second one, you can do it by generating a pocket world, going in adventure mode, and murdering everything. (this was done already)
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The Bay12Games Twitter account has had some pretty good glimpses into the maddness recently:
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Do you guys use Announcement Filter? If so do you have a problem with it not scrolling when the window starts filling up? It's annoying to restart it all the time, plus the older a fort grows, the more announcements.
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Alehkhs posted:The Bay12Games Twitter account has had some pretty good glimpses into the maddness recently: The holes are still there. 
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Helical Nightmares posted:The holes are still there. 
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 @Bay12Games posted:This dwarven library has about 20 independent proofs of the Pythagorean theorem collected from around the world. I love this game.
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About time I got in on their patreon. This is good stuff.
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I'm beginning to think that a lava moat just may not be worth it. So many of my axe dwarves just dodge right off the ledge into the lava when running out to meet an invasion. Hrm.... Oh well, I can always get more dwarves.
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TheCIASentMe posted:I'm beginning to think that a lava moat just may not be worth it. So many of my axe dwarves just dodge right off the ledge into the lava when running out to meet an invasion. My volcano with lava moat has accidentally suffered some troll based damage and now the "moat" is more of an ever-filling lake that extends out along the north side of my fortress. I'd be happier if my FPS wasn't being choked to death as a result but such is life.
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Reading the history summary of the doomed world later in the thread really reminded me about why Dwarf Fortress is awesome, and it makes me wish there was a lot more stuff that could happen in World Gen. Wars and interesting plot lines can just be too rare sometimes.
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reignofevil posted:My volcano with lava moat has accidentally suffered some troll based damage and now the "moat" is more of an ever-filling lake that extends out along the north side of my fortress. This is pretty much the most dwarf fortress thing ever.
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How does the game expect you to deal with vampires? I have one in my fort, killing people here and there and i think it's really cool and neat. I know there's supposedly a way to single the vampire out in Dwarf Therapist and other gamey methods and then dump them in lava, but what does the developer(s)/the game intend for the users to do about it? I wanna do it the intended way. I notice there are cases in the Justice menu pertaining to the vampire murders, one of them supposedly had a witness, so i convicted the suspect based on the only evidence i had. He "just" got 240+ days in prison tho, i was expecting him to be executed or banished since this does not deal with the vampire problem (the one who supposedly saw it happen might be the vampire anyway, i love this).
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Dongattack posted:How does the game expect you to deal with vampires? I have one in my fort, killing people here and there and i think it's really cool and neat. I know there's supposedly a way to single the vampire out in Dwarf Therapist and other gamey methods and then dump them in lava, but what does the developer(s)/the game intend for the users to do about it? I wanna do it the intended way. I guess that depends on how you define gamey. If you have an idea who you think it might be, their little bio can be a giveaway. Whacky birth dates, sometimes names being weird (I think? I only noticed that once), and talking about dark gods of sorts. There are some other indicators in there I think, but It has been awhile since I had to deal with an immigrant vampire. They probably have a bunch of rusty skills as well. As to what to DO with them, well I don't think there is any real "this is what you are supposed to do with vampires!" The usual thing is often to seal them up and make them keep your books, but I enjoy dumping them into caves to deal with stuff along with whatever catch & release program I have going with kobold thieves or whatever. Maybe engineer a cave-in or make a lava sauna for him?
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Dongattack posted:He "just" got 240+ days in prison tho, i was expecting him to be executed or banished since this does not deal with the vampire problem (the one who supposedly saw it happen might be the vampire anyway, i love this). The logical in-game approach is a witch trial. Ensure that each prison cell has a door that can be locked from outside. When the vampire suspect is incarcerated, lock the door. If you notice signs of starvation, then you can unlock the door and allow him to serve his remaining sentence. If he dies anyways, then he can be considered exonerated and given an honorable burial. If he survives 240 days without food, then the diagnosis is confirmed and you can apply metagame penal measures (e.g. entomb him forever in a tiny office as a vampire-accountant, assign him to a 1-man military squad and order him to explore the caverns, setup a minecart on an eternal loop and tell him to ride it, or just dump his rear end into magma if you're prudent and boring). The in-game penal answer is "to be implemented." Open up Legends mode and you'll find vampires living hundreds of years (with nobody raising any concerns or objections), holding high political offices, and killing thousands of people. Occasionally they're forced to migrate because they've successfully exsanguinated every single person in their civilization. Dwarf Fortress isn't a finished game, and sometimes you just need to accept the absurdity and roll with it. Some mods add religious and magic game-mechanics, which allow you to detect vampirism and then cure or destroy the afflicted creature.
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GulMadred posted:The logical in-game approach is a witch trial. Ensure that each prison cell has a door that can be locked from outside. When the vampire suspect is incarcerated, lock the door. If you notice signs of starvation, then you can unlock the door and allow him to serve his remaining sentence. If he dies anyways, then he can be considered exonerated and given an honorable burial. If he survives 240 days without food, then the diagnosis is confirmed and you can apply metagame penal measures (e.g. entomb him forever in a tiny office as a vampire-accountant, assign him to a 1-man military squad and order him to explore the caverns, setup a minecart on an eternal loop and tell him to ride it, or just dump his rear end into magma if you're prudent and boring). Haha, i love this! Thanks for both of your very well written posts, i'll accept a bit of gaminess then since it's up to me then anyway. The lack of a executioner noble really should have tipped me off, tho i guess maybe the Hammerer can do that job also.
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if you catch a vampire in the act they'll become immediately hostile to your entire fort, i believe. so you can set up a trap, if you're confident in your military
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ninjewtsu posted:if you catch a vampire in the act they'll become immediately hostile to your entire fort, i believe. so you can set up a trap, if you're confident in your military Considering that you would have to assign the vampire to a task in a specific room to set up that trap, I can't help but imagine a heavily armed intervention.  "Now Urist, we're all here because we love you." "You bloodbags plan to kill me!" "Love Hurts."
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well, there's that, or make your entire fort sleep in an open-wall dormitory with patrolling guards you'd think this would be more about vampire bite prevention, but nope, they'll still go right in the middle of a bunch of armed guards during an attempt to discreetly snack on some poor farmer
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Zereth posted:Do vampires actually eat normal food/drink water or booze? no. it's why vampires are doomed to gradually grow slower and weaker - they never drink, yet feel the dwarven booze withdrawal e: I do believe their feeding still counts as a "meal" for their thoughts
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Just entomb your mayor. Draculas always end up mayors.
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Sometimes the vampire has really good skills. If your vampire is a master weapon smith it may be worth letting him snack on the occasional dwarf. Or set him up in a chamber with trap doors so you can drop materials down to him and have him drop the finished goods down to the room below his chamber. It can also be good to have him in a one man squad and include a pick in his prison. That way he can dig himself out and be an army of last resort if you are being over-run. Most vampires are good at combat and very hard to kill.
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Angela Christine posted:Sometimes the vampire has really good skills. If your vampire is a master weapon smith it may be worth letting him snack on the occasional dwarf. Or set him up in a chamber with trap doors so you can drop materials down to him and have him drop the finished goods down to the room below his chamber. Or just leave him walled up so that if all your other dwarves get killed, the fort won't die and you'll eventually get migrants again.
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A_Raving_Loon posted:Just entomb your mayor. And if for some reason it's not your mayor, and your mayor dies, do it to the new mayor! You'll get it eventually. 
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Daedalus1134 posted:And if for some reason it's not your mayor, and your mayor dies, do it to the new mayor! The mayoral elections take on a completely different tone. "Urist McVampire is a complete scumbag, and that's why you should elect him and not me! I am not a vampire!"
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Angela Christine posted:Sometimes the vampire has really good skills. If your vampire is a master weapon smith it may be worth letting him snack on the occasional dwarf. Or set him up in a chamber with trap doors so you can drop materials down to him and have him drop the finished goods down to the room below his chamber. Will vampires feed off of other races? I haven't played in ages and any vampire I got before I usually just tossed in liquid hot love. It would be pretty hardcore to be able to keep a vampire craftsperson/smith/whatever in a pit and toss him goblins once a week.
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I had a vampire once in a fort of 100+ dwarfs, I could never find out who it was. Then I was going around and there was a red dwarf in a room with a dead body. I was like "there you are" and locked him up. They are a cheap way to never lose a game ever if you can capture one.
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I think they can be killed by ghosts, though, should all your other dwarves fall and fail to be properly entombed.
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Back before vampires were a thing I had a fort where I took a peasant and locked him up in an "undersea lab" I built and left him there to forge his own existence. I suppose you could do the same thing with a vampire.
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Pretty well actually. He had his own little farm and poo poo down there so he had food and booze. I left all the rocks behind when I dug the place out so he had plenty of carving to do in his spare time. Unfortunately he got married to someone while he was down there and then when she died he got upset and never really got out of his slump because he had nobody to talk to. Eventually the fort fell when all my megaprojects got boring and a new version came out so I pulled my "destroy everything" lever and made a giant glass sky-fortress fall to the earth.
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The quintessential Dwarf Fortress experience.
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Neurion posted:I think they can be killed by ghosts, though, should all your other dwarves fall and fail to be properly entombed. Eh. A workshop, 10x10 empty floor tiles, and a shitton of rocks for slabs will do the trick.
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Trapping and entombing a vampire in an office and subjecting it to an eternity of bureaucracy is such a cruel and inventive method of punishment. This game is the best.
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Vampires traditionally love counting things, having big fancy titles, and being blood sucking parasites. Bureaucracy is perfect for them!
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Say you get a vampire mayor, if you wall him up inside his office and then place chairs on either side of a fortification can people have meetings with him? Or do those occur at a table?
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