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RaySmuckles posted:Oh right, I'm the bad guy because I casually posted something positive about Bernie in the US politics thread and called someone out for posting misleading information. The chase out has been acknowledged. Dissenting opinions in this thread beware. Glad it only took until page 2. No it's because every day some guy who just heard about politics this very day and is like "wow this Bernie guy sure is something" comes in here like they are bringing tablets down from Mt. Sinai and they actually don't know anything about presidential politics. And today that's you.
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# ? Oct 1, 2015 16:37 |
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RaySmuckles posted:Dissenting opinions in this thread beware. Glad it only took until page 2. Well seeing how we have a million threads dedicated to loving the Chicken-man, I'm not exactly sure what the "dissenting opinion" in the Democratic primary is on this forum.
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# ? Oct 1, 2015 16:38 |
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CommieGIR posted:People want him to run, the media wants him to run, so everyone is just running under the assumption he is running despite the fact that he has really not said he will.
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# ? Oct 1, 2015 16:38 |
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FlamingLiberal posted:The Times just published some article today titled 'Clinton Campaign Increasingly Concerned by Biden Run' The media wants Biden to run so bad it's hard to separate out their own wishful thinking from objective analysis. I'd still like to see the article if you have a link handy, though.
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# ? Oct 1, 2015 16:39 |
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http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/01/u...WT.nav=top-newsquote:Aides to Mr. Biden did not comment. And Clinton aides, speaking on the condition of anonymity because they did not want to be identified discussing strategy in public, said that the effort to mobilize Democrats behind her was a natural progression of her candidacy, and unrelated to any potential challenger. Bunch of anonymous sources trying to craft a narrative. Same dumb poo poo that the Times has been pulling for a while now. I don't really understand their angle.
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# ? Oct 1, 2015 16:41 |
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Mozi posted:http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/01/u...WT.nav=top-news They loving hate HRC is their angle. But yeah that article is bullshit, imo.
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Mozi posted:http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/01/u...WT.nav=top-news the NYT's editor admitted to media matters that they have a serious problem with hillary and reporting on her
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# ? Oct 1, 2015 16:44 |
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zoux posted:The media wants Biden to run so bad it's hard to separate out their own wishful thinking from objective analysis. I'd still like to see the article if you have a link handy, though. Yeah, like CNN can barely hide their lust for a biden run.
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# ? Oct 1, 2015 16:44 |
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Mozi posted:http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/01/u...WT.nav=top-news http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/joe-biden-abortion-1974_560c5ee3e4b076812700b4d6
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Yeah, like CNN can barely hide their lust for a biden run. They're supposed to be the Clinton News Network
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zoux posted:They're supposed to be the Clinton News Network In the course I have prepped for an online Journalism class, there's a whole unit on "THERE IS NO LIBERAL MEDIA BIAS, THE'S A MAKING MONEY BIAS"
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# ? Oct 1, 2015 16:46 |
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:ndiana GOP’s House Leader resigns after texting sexually explicit video of himself cheating on wife to everyone on his “Contacts” list How does this keep happening? Why on earth, as a sitting house member, would you record such a video? Like I'm not even mad at the hypocrisy of regulating other people's marriages while cheating, I just want to know how all our elected leaders are so idiotic that they keep having leaks of that sort of material.
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# ? Oct 1, 2015 16:47 |
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RaySmuckles posted:Oh right, I'm the bad guy because I casually posted something positive about Bernie in the US politics thread and called someone out for posting misleading information. The chase out has been acknowledged. Dissenting opinions in this thread beware. Glad it only took until page 2. fool_of_sound posted:Being an aggressively whiny gently caress is neither debate nor discussion.
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greatn posted:You are underselling this: 8 out of 10 of the counties with the highest minority voter registration percentage are not just losing a driver's license office, they will have NO drivers license office. Those six counties you mention with highest black percentage, NO OFFICE. No they have a board of registrars office where it is possible to get an ID so everything's totally hunky-dory.
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# ? Oct 1, 2015 16:47 |
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I wish the media would leave Biden in peace. It's obvious he wants to run but knows he would just get his heart broken and is going to stay out of it. The media keeps goading him with false hope.
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Nevermind. Wrong general.
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# ? Oct 1, 2015 16:49 |
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Oh, right. That's been a pretty longstanding thing. The thing is... does nobody remember that Biden already ran for the presidency a few times? Recently? And people weren't crazy about it? He's a good VP because he knows how to get around from his decades in the Senate and is pretty genial, but he's got skeletons up the wazoo and his policy positions didn't grab people. It's just... we need another warm body in this thing! Horse race horse race horse race!
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Mozi posted:Oh, right. That's been a pretty longstanding thing. Some people have! The ones who are being objective journalists about it and not either out to make money or have an axe to grind against HRC.
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# ? Oct 1, 2015 16:50 |
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RaySmuckles posted:And the man's doing a heck of a job at it too. Obama, excluding donors that donated more than 200 in a single contribution forcing their disclosure, still averaged ~60 bucks a donation. Bernie is averaging 30. Other than NH, he's losing by 30ish points in the polls that have any relevance (the ones that don't poll Biden.) In North Carolina he is losing to a guy who isn't even running (again, Biden.) He has basically no party support (in SHARP contrast to Obama.) I mean, he's doing a heck of a job in that people talk about him, but not in the sense that he's going to win.
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# ? Oct 1, 2015 16:51 |
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If Clinton had to drop out for whatever reason, Biden would probably win the Dem nomination
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# ? Oct 1, 2015 16:51 |
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More gubernatorial campaign info from the Herald Leader. They did a regional breakdown of their most recent poll. Bevin leading in rural parts of the state, including much of coal country. This suggests that Republican attempts to tie Conway to OBAMA'S WAR ON COAL may be succeeding with many voters, despite Conway's extremely cozy relationship with the coal industry. But the biggest/most surprising takeaway is that Conway is leading in Northern Kentucky. The population in that region is largely comprised of relatively affluent suburbs and exurbs of Cincinnati. These folk are normally Republican voters, but of the socially-liberal, fiscally-gently caress-you variety common to well-off suburbanites. It appears many of them may be willing to flip or stay home, if the Republican candidate is an arch-conservative culture-warrior like Bevin. Louisville and Lexington can't normally outvote the rest of the state by themselves, but the equation changes if counties like Boone, Kenton and Campbell are actually in play.
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jackofarcades posted:If Clinton had to drop out for whatever reason, Biden would probably win the Dem nomination That could be a reason why he hasn't said he won't run, because he's Hillary's backup just in case.
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If Hillary had to drop out for anything short of a heart attack, it would be a disaster of 1972 proportions.
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Coatlicue posted:How does this keep happening? Why on earth, as a sitting house member, would you record such a video? Like I'm not even mad at the hypocrisy of regulating other people's marriages while cheating, I just want to know how all our elected leaders are so idiotic that they keep having leaks of that sort of material. Everybody loves hot old-rich-whitedude-on-staffer action I guess
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:If Hillary had to drop out for anything short of a heart attack, it would be a disaster of 1972 proportions. All we need to do to recreate 1972 would be to have the Democrats nominate the true liberal candidate the left wing loves but is unable to deal with the dirty tricks the Republicans are already using.
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McGovernmania is catching on! zoux fucked around with this message at 17:02 on Oct 1, 2015 |
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Some people have! The ones who are being objective journalists about it and not either out to make money or have an axe to grind against HRC. So nobody.
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Sorus posted:So nobody. Nah, Vox of all places, has been pretty good about it, and Nate Silver's shop as well. Greg Sargent has been pretty on point too.
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Trabisnikof posted:They're a good surrogate for a "solid supporter" that is to say, if you've donated to someone you're going to vote for someone. So nationally, there are at least 1 million people who will vote Sanders. That's to be expected based on his poll numbers. Million donations, not donors. Typically, a significant proportion of donors donate more than once (for example, Bernie supporters scraping together their allowance on a weekly basis) - for Obama it was probably at least half of his donors. And it's more common in small donors for the obvious reason.
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Kalman posted:Million donations, not donors. Typically, a significant proportion of donors donate more than once (for example, Bernie supporters scraping together their allowance on a weekly basis) - for Obama it was probably at least half of his donors. And it's more common in small donors for the obvious reason. Oh poo poo yeah, misread that. This is an even more contrived bar than I thought.
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quote:@THEHermanCain: NERVE RESTORED: Excellent! Fiorina would bring back waterboarding http://t.co/3JdMUGFgck Holy poo poo these people are monsters and have absolutely no self-awareness at all.
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Trabisnikof posted:Oh poo poo yeah, misread that. This is an even more contrived bar than I thought. Yeah I thought it was unique donors as well.
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Nate Cohn is also a good guy to follow in terms of actually paying attention to reality when reporting on Clinton-Sanders stuff, even if he's under the NYT masthead.
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:If Hillary had to drop out for anything short of a heart attack, it would be a disaster of 1972 proportions. If it happened in the next couple months Biden could probably step in and salvage the situation. I still think he's waiting to see if anything actually comes from the FBI investigation of the stupid email scandal.
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Coatlicue posted:How does this keep happening? Why on earth, as a sitting house member, would you record such a video? Like I'm not even mad at the hypocrisy of regulating other people's marriages while cheating, I just want to know how all our elected leaders are so idiotic that they keep having leaks of that sort of material. It's an ego thing. There's nothing more to it than that.
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smg77 posted:If it happened in the next couple months Biden could probably step in and salvage the situation. I still think he's waiting to see if anything actually comes from the FBI investigation of the stupid email scandal. He's not because it won't and because it would require Obama's DOJ to prosecute it.
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:He's not because it won't and because it would require Obama's DOJ to prosecute it. I wonder what impeaching lame duck Obama over his refusal to prosecute the Democratic nominee would do to Independent turnout...
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Rhesus Pieces posted:Holy poo poo these people are monsters and have absolutely no self-awareness at all. Once they said waterboarding wasn't torture, it can never be torture. Never mind that everyone that's said it wasn't torture and then submitted themselves to it changed their mind. And then their's Hannity, who's a massive chicken
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Rhesus Pieces posted:Holy poo poo these people are monsters and have absolutely no self-awareness at all. Trump leads the pack, Carson's next, Fiorina's place fluctuates between tying with Carson and being with the rest of the (single digit) pack, and then you've got the rest of the high single-digit pack: Jeb! and Cruz, with new addition Rubio. The next debate cuts off at 3%, and assuming polls stay consistent, those 6 are the only ones above 3%. So say hi to your top 6 Republican candidates: Trump, Carson, Fiorina, Cruz, Jeb!, and Rubio. The only establishment guys among them are Jeb! and Rubio, and Jeb!, uh... Jeb!'s got problems. Many, many problems. So let's see if Rubio can stand up to Trump, or crumble into a sweating, dry-mouthed heap.
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House Republicans including Chaffetz are pissed McCarthy gave the game awayquote:Speaking to CNN's Wolf Blitzer on "The Situation Room," Rep. Jason Chaffetz, R-Utah, said McCarthy should apologize, saying the California Republican made an "absolutely inappropriate statement."
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