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A Winner is Jew posted:Just found this. That site keeps having broken links for me. Also, their front page claims Knobcon was the largest synthesizer convention ever. I guess Moogfest is much more concert than convention but come on, 500 is tiny. EDIT: Direct link to the synth: http://nicroto.github.io/viktor/
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I'm in Asheville this week. Any tips on visiting/touring Moog? I've already emailed "Paul".
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AnnoyBot posted:I'm in Asheville this week. Any tips on visiting/touring Moog? I've already emailed "Paul". I was there about a month ago. IIRC they only give tours on weekdays but the store is open everyday during 'normal' business hours. Just call the store and set up a time, when I did I got the store manager after 2 rings. Also the store itself has a lot of stuff to play with but you're gonna be incredibly disappointed if you don't get the factory tour. Also as a side note Ashville is pretty cool but it's definitely a tourist kind of town. The food is great but a lot of the people were kind of annoying to me, but then again I'm a grump so who cares. In the same vein my roommate just ordered a slimphatty. I really hope he let's me play with it 
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Sep 28, 2015 13:34
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64bit_Dophins posted:Also as a side note Ashville is pretty cool but it's definitely a tourist kind of town. The food is great but a lot of the people were kind of annoying to me, but then again I'm a grump so who cares. asheville is just full of wookies in denial but it's a pretty alright town. lots of crunch and granola but what can you do with a school like warren wilson in town western NC is pretty a cool area overall though
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Asheville has grown increasingly spacier over the past 10-20 years. It's just in the past 10 or so it's gone full on crystal waving vortex-woo hippie. Then the hipsters came too, lol. The contrast between Asheville and the Republican sourpusses that live in the boonies around it is just too stark. There's a few people that moved out there recently that aren't, hippies, rich liberals, organic farmers etc. But they get along with the locals like oil and water.
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https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/28776005/arpeggio-the-portable-arpeggiator-sequencer-and-sy?ref=nav_search I'm a bit wary of crowd-funded or boutique stuff, but drat if this thing doesn't have a bunch of stuff the Electribes need- pattern chaining, a proper arpeggiator, and transpose.
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The Moog tour was pretty cool, especially seeing two System 55 modulars being assembled and calibrated. That's not something I'll likely see again. A lot of it was a recitation of gearslutz.txt (warmth! Analog! Keith Emerson!) so there wasn't a lot of new info on that front. There was a surprising amount of theremin talk though, which was neat. No vintage gear was in sight, nor was the Emerson repro around. The guide mentioned Aphex Twin had taken delivery of a System 55, and I believe Gotye got two and is planning on making one publicly available in Australia. Since neither I (new job) nor my wife (contractor) have any vacation right now, this trip has cost us roughly one Minimoog Voyager XL in lost income (in addition to cross country airfare for us + 2 kids). So I did not buy one. The Minitaur was adorable though, so I may have an eye out for one.
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Sep 30, 2015 04:44
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ProAudioStar is dumping a lot of used and b-stock today. Lots of good stuff. http://www.proaudiostar.com/landing...6ac87-407793517
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Mood is discontinuing the Voyager. So that's that.
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so here's a thing: http://www.rolandus.com/promos/roland_boutique/ standalone synth modules with optional keyboard dock, $299-399 for the modules and $99 for the the keyboard dock. each one of them has a builtin 16 step sequencer. they look pretty nice but people are complaining about lack of midi control over parameters.
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Mr. Glass posted:so here's a thing: http://www.rolandus.com/promos/roland_boutique/ I'd much rather them make a proper competitor to the KingKorg using the ACB tech. 8-12 voices with full control over each voice covering all their classic poly synths, 49-73 full size keys, effects, and a really kick rear end sequencer for about a grand would be sweet. Not that it matters much since I'm getting the XA when I go to winter NAMM this year.
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Mr. Glass posted:standalone synth modules with optional keyboard dock, $299-399 for the modules and $99 for the the keyboard dock. each one of them has a builtin 16 step sequencer. These things are the same size as a Blofeld desktop, but somehow they seem smaller. (Maybe it's the tiny faders and mini jacks?) EDIT: Sweetwater demo video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjVpWsA-FjA
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there's also this thing http://us.novationmusic.com/circuit/circuit looks like an electribe competitor? difficult to tell from the videos how much flexibility you have with the synth parts, whether it's like the electribe 2 where you have complete control over every parameter in the synth engine or if it's more like the kaossilator and you just get presets. e: oh and also here's Moog's Mother 32 announcement video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCJacEzcU7A big synth news day! Mr. Glass fucked around with this message at 18:26 on Oct 1, 2015 |
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Mr. Glass posted:
Well, I was excited about those Roland modules but this + a drum machine seems like a better use of my limited synth funds than a drum machine and a couple roland boutique modules
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no joke! that's a whole lot of synth for $599. if i had to decide between this and the Intellijel Atlantis I'd probably go with the Moog.
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Oct 1, 2015 19:12
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Yeah I just cancelled my Werkstatt order on Massdrop. Holy poo poo.
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If Moog put a garbage keyboard on that people would drop $1299. I can't believe how cheap that is.
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And here I was thinking that I was saving up for an MS-20...
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Bear in mind the MS-20 is still a heck of a lot more SYNTH than the Mother 32. 2 VCO's vs 1, 2 VCF's instead of 1, 2 EG's, 2 LFO's, the external sound processing bit that converts pitch to CV. I mean, I think the Mother32 is pretty sweet and that seems like a nice sequencer, but, 1 VCO 1 VCF is pretty limited.
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Anyone seen specs on how much power this thing draws if mounted in your euro case? I "need" a sequencer, midi->cv, clock divider & more modulation/envenlopes so this is a no brainer for the price. The extra oscilator and authentic Moog ladder filter just sweeten the deal that much more.
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Only 230ma.
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toadee posted:Bear in mind the MS-20 is still a heck of a lot more SYNTH than the Mother 32. 2 VCO's vs 1, 2 VCF's instead of 1, 2 EG's, 2 LFO's, the external sound processing bit that converts pitch to CV. I mean, I think the Mother32 is pretty sweet and that seems like a nice sequencer, but, 1 VCO 1 VCF is pretty limited. That's why you get two.
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dj bobby bieber posted:That's why you get two. Yes, at more than double the price of an MS-20 mini. This is not, I'm not saying one is better than the other Im just pointing out this isn't a direct comparison because the features of both are actually pretty dissimilar beyond 'patchable normalized routing synth'.
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toadee posted:Yes, at more than double the price of an MS-20 mini. This is not, I'm not saying one is better than the other Im just pointing out this isn't a direct comparison because the features of both are actually pretty dissimilar beyond 'patchable normalized routing synth'. Yeah, I think the MS-20 mini + SQ-1 is still a bit better than a Mother 32, but 2 Mother 32's would be better than a MS-20m. They do different things and obviously sound different, but if I was planning on getting the MS-20m I would totally opt for 2 of the Mother 32's instead now.
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The problem with the MS-20 is that it's so fuckin' obtuse. I mean even beyond the Hz/V thing there's the weirdass way EG2 works on the filter, and I've never really been able to figure out just how EG1 is normaled, if it is at all. And it takes up a lot of room, but at least the top makes a good shelf.
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Fuuuuck. Fried my first module today. And it wasn't even a "I got really high and decided I needed a new setup and plugged one in backwards" case, I just plugged in the system that had been working for months and by the time I realized there were no lights from the top board the magic smoke was coming out. Voltmeter to the surge protector, DC adaptor and -12V wire all seem to check out, and a quick test of the remaining modules seems to show the rest are okay, but now I'm a bit paranoid about using the system RIP Disting - you were never used as often as I thought you'd be used, but I'll miss your CV quantizer
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A Winner is Jew posted:Yeah, I think the MS-20 mini + SQ-1 is still a bit better than a Mother 32, but 2 Mother 32's would be better than a MS-20m. Why doesn't Korg market a MS-20m that's fully assembled and doesn't cost more than twice as much as a normal MS-20 mini? Are the sync, FM, and PWM circuits that expensive?
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Margins baby 
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AnnoyBot posted:The Moog tour was pretty cool, especially seeing two System 55 modulars being assembled and calibrated. That's not something I'll likely see again. A lot of it was a recitation of gearslutz.txt (warmth! Analog! Keith Emerson!) so there wasn't a lot of new info on that front. There was a surprising amount of theremin talk though, which was neat. No vintage gear was in sight, nor was the Emerson repro around. They didn't take you back into their media room? There was lots of old poo poo in there, including a Model 15 built by Bob himself if I remember correctly (I went a couple years ago before they'd started making Model 15's again). I distinctly recall the guy just sort of being like "Oh yeah, Foreigner used this one, X used that one, etc." in that room. Maybe there was somebody famous shooting an interview in there and they didn't want to bother them 
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Startyde posted:Margins baby gently caress, speaking of margins I just padded Yamahas and bought a ReFace DX. Probably not the smartest use of funds, but hey it was my birthday last week and I wanted something FM. I'm still trying to come to grips with it, but it seems pretty cool so far, and for whatever reason I don't hate the minikeys.
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stillvisions posted:Fuuuuck. Fried my first module today. And it wasn't even a "I got really high and decided I needed a new setup and plugged one in backwards" case, I just plugged in the system that had been working for months and by the time I realized there were no lights from the top board the magic smoke was coming out. Voltmeter to the surge protector, DC adaptor and -12V wire all seem to check out, and a quick test of the remaining modules seems to show the rest are okay, but now I'm a bit paranoid about using the system Congratulations, today you are a man.
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Mr. Sharps posted:Congratulations, today you are a man. Men don't wreck their modules.
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Sizone posted:Men don't wreck their modules. .. electrons do?
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Well guys, it finally happened. It was inevitable I suppose. A question of when, not if. I bought a Voyager today. Pictures forthcoming. In the meantime, please tell me how stupid this was.
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minidracula posted:Well guys, it finally happened. It was inevitable I suppose. A question of when, not if. I bought a Voyager today. Pictures forthcoming. In the meantime, please tell me how stupid this was. I miss the one I sold a lot, so you did good.
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Somebody sold one to the Guitar center I bought my DX at, so dumber decisions have been made. He probably got half the price he would have on eBay for it, around $1100 since they were selling it for around $2200. I managed to make a velocity sensitive patch for the DX that sounds pretty cool to me with or without effects. I had done nothing with FM before this, and with just watching a few youtube videos and reading the manual i got something useful. I guess that says something for the program ability over the old DX series.
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minidracula posted:I bought a Voyager today.
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Radiapathy posted:Which one?
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minidracula posted:Well guys, it finally happened. It was inevitable I suppose. A question of when, not if. I bought a Voyager today. Pictures forthcoming. In the meantime, please tell me how stupid this was. I hope you like calibrating.
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AxeBreaker posted:I managed to make a velocity sensitive patch for the DX that sounds pretty cool to me with or without effects. I had done nothing with FM before this, and with just watching a few youtube videos and reading the manual i got something useful. I guess that says something for the program ability over the old DX series. I don't get the hate over programmability of the DX7-likes. The manual was pretty clear, and everything was arranged logically, with no menu diving. I tried out the Reface DX and it was a royal pain in the rear end. The touch sliders were hard to use, and they didn't do the smart thing and make pairs of coarse and fine adjustments (like the DX7 had). Trying to change the operator ratio to even multiples was a chore, which makes little sense with FM. Also they get all fingerprinted up and the friction is going to get all hosed up unless you keep it super clean and have super clean hands. It made me long for a mechanical data slider, although maybe I've got stockholm syndrome, with an SQ-80 dominating my time at the moment.
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