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Thump! posted:I agree, ban handguns nationwide. But if we ban them only criminals will have them and as a conceal carry proponent I *wet juicy fart* *farting continues*
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Monkey Fracas posted:But if we ban them only criminals will have them and as a conceal carry proponent I *wet juicy fart* This is true. Cops carry hand guns.
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TGLT posted:Tons of people do in fact care about more common gun crime, and suicide prevention, and what you're saying is pretty similar to suggesting Al Sharpton never talks about black on black violence even though he does. I mean also, just because Thing A is bad does not mean we should do nothing about Thing B. Like if I didn't wear a seatbelt, binge drinking isn't any less dumb for it. Dude mass shootings get a disproportionate amount of national attention c'mon
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A Winner is Jew posted:This is true. loving ban cops too then. Monkey Fracas posted:Dude mass shootings get a disproportionate amount of national attention c'mon That's because they're not ever day occurrences like our regular sub-5-death mass shootings.
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I bet if nobody had a gun they would buy carbon fiber knives and strap poo poo to the knives and then one dude would have a machete in the knife shop and all the other guys would be "ohhh man thats a big dick" until people were walking around with buster swords and talking about sword rights. which is still less annoying than now so lets do that.
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Monkey Fracas posted:Dude mass shootings get a disproportionate amount of national attention c'mon Yes, and? So do plane crashes to car crashes. You're making the wrong point about regular homicides and gun crimes vs mass shootings.
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Spaceman Future! posted:I bet if nobody had a gun they would buy carbon fiber knives and strap poo poo to the knives and then one dude would have a machete in the knife shop and all the other guys would be "ohhh man thats a big dick" until people were walking around with buster swords and talking about sword rights. You do know this was a whole thing in Japan at the end of the shogunate.
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Milk Malk posted:You say that, but if you're being honest with yourself you'll realize that the first step in the Holocaust, before the deportations and forced resettlement, before the concentration camps and ethnic cleansing, was disarming the populace. It's not that big of a stretch. You know Hitler actually loosened gun laws, right?
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Fried Chicken posted:You know Hitler actually loosened gun laws, right?  you're breaking the narrative
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Though let's be fair, anyone who thinks that if the US Military turned on its people it would certainly not be under a Democratic president (1) and (2) your lovely little knock off ak would not be able to defend you from the arsenal we have equipped our military with.
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Fried Chicken posted:You know Hitler actually loosened gun laws, right? Look man, he said Hitler but meant Lenin. All socialists are the same right?
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Fried Chicken posted:You know Hitler actually loosened gun laws, right? Don't you know though!? Australia and Britain are setting up their pogroms now as we speak! They disarmed their populace, and are currently marching all their undesirables to the ovens and invading their neighbors! Because that's the logical close next step to maybe taking tools of death out of the hands of literal idiots!
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Oct 1, 2015 22:05
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Though let's be fair, anyone who thinks that if the US Military turned on its people it would certainly not be under a Democratic president (1) and (2) your lovely little knock off ak would not be able to defend you from the arsenal we have equipped our military with. Check out this guy who never saw the documentary Red Dawn.
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http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/10/breaking-mass-shooting-at-umpqua-college-in-oregon-10-dead-gunfree-zone/ The Stupidest Man On The Internet knows what really caused this tragedy.
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Shooter was a 20-year old male, so yeah probably not black pill guy because he had to be about 30.
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Thump! posted:Don't you know though!? Australia and Britain are setting up their pogroms now as we speak! They disarmed their populace, and are currently marching all their undesirables to the ovens and invading their neighbors! At least in the case of Australia they did actually make camps for undesirables. 
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Dilkington posted:you're approaching Rawl's "veil of ignorance"
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Though let's be fair, anyone who thinks that if the US Military turned on its people it would certainly not be under a Democratic president (1) and (2) your lovely little knock off ak would not be able to defend you from the arsenal we have equipped our military with. Filthy coasters would eat atomic fire on day one.
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Monkey Fracas posted:Dude mass shootings get a disproportionate amount of national attention c'mon I'm not disagreeing that they get more attention than non-mass shootings, but people do in fact pay attention to and craft legislation for more common gun crime.
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Though let's be fair, anyone who thinks that if the US Military turned on its people it would certainly not be under a Democratic president (1) and (2) your lovely little knock off ak would not be able to defend you from the arsenal we have equipped our military with. There are other things like cutting off food, water, and electricity that could be done pretty easily and have big effects.
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Vox has a map up of all the school shootings since Sandy Hook. Once again, Wyoming proves itself as the best state.
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Yes, and? So do plane crashes to car crashes. The problem is then everyday people tend to think about gun control in terms of mass shootings only and that's less than great is all I'm saying. Not exactly a stunning revelation but y'know that's what I was trying to say
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Sir Tonk posted:http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/10/breaking-mass-shooting-at-umpqua-college-in-oregon-10-dead-gunfree-zone/ Best part is that isn't even true. quote:Umpqua Community College, however, was not a gun free zone. A 2011, state court decision prohibited public colleges from banning guns on campus. The decision stemmed from a suit filed by the Oregon Firearm Education Foundation, a gun rights group. There was an effort to pass a new law to reinstate the ability of public colleges to ban guns. That measure was defeated by gun rights advocates.
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Monkey Fracas posted:The problem is then everyday people tend to think about gun control in terms of mass shootings only and that's less than great is all I'm saying. Well yeah, that's a more fair assessment. It's like horror movie style home invasions, sensational crimes do gently caress with what legislation the public demands.
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zoux posted:Vox has a map up of all the school shootings since Sandy Hook. Once again, Wyoming proves itself as the best state. Wyoming has only one school and it's attended by a dachshund named Colin.
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zoux posted:Yeah but it feels like it's true.
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Fried Chicken posted:You know Hitler actually loosened gun laws, right? You know the statistics say that an increase the the availability of guns actually reduces violent crime? And that Hitler, though a reprehensible human being and a horrible, horrible racist, was actually a leader who wanted the best for his people? Don't try to cast me as a holocaust apologist either, in this analogy the American people would be the Jews--castrated, emasculated, and defenseless. Look, gun control is not the answer here. Seriously, I can provide some real data if you still think gun control is going to help the American people. I deal in facts, not emotional bullshit that always comes up after a tragedy.
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Make part of the gun buying process similar to what Republicans keep trying to do with abortion. First, you have to see pictures of victims of mass shootings and audio recordings of the screams of the dying. Then get something randomly shoved up your rear end - you must consent to this or else you're not allowed to purchase a firearm. Then after all that you still have to come back and speak with a counselor twice more with a waiting period of 48 hours in between sessions. Also regulate the stores that sell firearms down to the nails used in construction, make sure the seller has admitting privileges at a local hospital (in case something goes wrong), they can't be within 1000 ft of a school or church, and the name of everyone that buys a gun is posted in the local paper. Oh, and they have to recommend alternatives, like slingshots and paintball/airsoft. I mean, we're not making buying a gun illegal, we're doing it for the health and safety of the buyer. If it's not a legitimate gun purchase we have ways of shutting that whole thing down! (For the record I own guns, like shooting them and don't think they should be outright banned but I have no problem with strict regulation)
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Rent-A-Cop posted:Literally the reasoning behind 90% of federal gun laws. citaion of that percentage? or... does it just feel that way?
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Un-gun related but Hillary is going to be greeting fellow kids on SNL this weekend. I'm sure it will be too embarrassing to watch.
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Milk Malk posted:You know the statistics say that an increase the the availability of guns actually reduces violent crime? And that Hitler, though a reprehensible human being and a horrible, horrible racist, was actually a leader who wanted the best for his people? Don't try to cast me as a holocaust apologist either, in this analogy the American people would be the Jews--castrated, emasculated, and defenseless. Yeah, because gun control in Australia had a zero positive effect after it was implemented. 
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pathetic little tramp posted:Shooter was a 20-year old male, so yeah probably not black pill guy because he had to be about 30. I'll regret this, but what is black pill? I've heard of red pill and iron pill but not black
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:(2) your lovely little knock off ak would not be able to defend you from the arsenal we have equipped our military with. I dunno, the Iraqis seem to have done a good job.
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zoux posted:Check out this guy who never saw the documentary Red Dawn. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfJRn42qWkc 5:02 "a conservative mind can't chart the course for the new world order"
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Zelder posted:I want to ban... 
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SubponticatePoster posted:Make part of the gun buying process similar to what Republicans keep trying to do with abortion. First, you have to see pictures of victims of mass shootings and audio recordings of the screams of the dying. Then get something randomly shoved up your rear end - you must consent to this or else you're not allowed to purchase a firearm. Then after all that you still have to come back and speak with a counselor twice more with a waiting period of 48 hours in between sessions. Also regulate the stores that sell firearms down to the nails used in construction, make sure the seller has admitting privileges at a local hospital (in case something goes wrong), they can't be within 1000 ft of a school or church, and the name of everyone that buys a gun is posted in the local paper. Oh, and they have to recommend alternatives, like slingshots and paintball/airsoft. 
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computer parts posted:I dunno, the Iraqis seem to have done a good job. You could hold out with some guerrilla tactics, sure. But effectively, if the US Military wanted to enact martial law, it wouldn't exactly be short of a crap shoot.
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SubponticatePoster posted:Make part of the gun buying process similar to what Republicans keep trying to do with abortion. First, you have to see pictures of victims of mass shootings and audio recordings of the screams of the dying. Then get something randomly shoved up your rear end - you must consent to this or else you're not allowed to purchase a firearm. Then after all that you still have to come back and speak with a counselor twice more with a waiting period of 48 hours in between sessions. Also regulate the stores that sell firearms down to the nails used in construction, make sure the seller has admitting privileges at a local hospital (in case something goes wrong), they can't be within 1000 ft of a school or church, and the name of everyone that buys a gun is posted in the local paper. Oh, and they have to recommend alternatives, like slingshots and paintball/airsoft. I'm down.
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