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Haschel Cedricson
Jan 4, 2006

Brinkmanship

My dad has taken up songwriting as a hobby, and he's asked me to figure out what the best way to sell his songs is. He's not particularly worried about profitability, he just wants six or so tracks on his Soundcloud to be available for purchase. Is CDbaby or Bandcamp the way to go, and if so, which is better?

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Southern Heel
Jul 2, 2004

Man, those piano brackets in the thousands just put me off further. I need to get better before I want to spend multiple hundreds of pounds. Is there an agreed best-of-worst for something around the $200 mark?

Tetramin
Apr 1, 2006

I'ma buck you up.

Southern Heel posted:

Man, those piano brackets in the thousands just put me off further. I need to get better before I want to spend multiple hundreds of pounds. Is there an agreed best-of-worst for something around the $200 mark?

I've used the yamaha p85 a few times and it's fine. Not really sure what it goes for but I assume its less than the p105 or whatever. Just get something with the simulated hammer action keys. Don't forget about craigslist, also.

Southern Heel
Jul 2, 2004

Bro's don't let Bros tune their own pianos (yes my fat fingers are slow as gently caress):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWOXa4jKl0Q

My father decided to restring and tune himself, as much as I love him I think maybe he should have left it to the professionals.

Gym Leader Barack
Oct 31, 2005

Grimey Drawer

Southern Heel posted:

Bro's don't let Bros tune their own pianos (yes my fat fingers are slow as gently caress):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWOXa4jKl0Q

My father decided to restring and tune himself, as much as I love him I think maybe he should have left it to the professionals.

haha that's the best. Sample that poo poo and market it as the next big thing in sound design.

Southern Heel
Jul 2, 2004

Piano with built in ring modulation? I feel bad because he is so proud of it. He often said 'I can't tell one note from another!' and I kept replying 'That's perfect pitch and it's super rare, most people have relative pitch, for example X' but now I wonder if he really is tonally deaf.

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

Doesn't that involve a ton of work? No wonder he's proud of it

Someone needs to bang out a rag on that immediately, or some saloon music

Gilgameshback
May 18, 2010

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUTXNxFvjDw

Noise Machine
Dec 3, 2005

Today is a good day to save.


Southern Heel posted:

He often said 'I can't tell one note from another!' and I kept replying 'That's perfect pitch and it's super rare, most people have relative pitch, for example X' but now I wonder if he really is tonally deaf.

:captainpop:

Jesus. That's...not good. At all.

I'm guessing he read that each note has to be slightly out of tune to keep up with Equal Temperament and...just kinda ran with it.

bacalou
Mar 21, 2013


where would i go for putting out a request for some small audio work/assistance

Postmaster GBS
Jan 14, 2013

I did it.

Postmaster GBS fucked around with this message at 01:31 on Sep 2, 2015

hazardousmouse
Dec 17, 2010
Anyone hear of Leon Aubert Stradivarius instruments? I'm looking at used cellos and can't seem to find much info on this company. Also, is buying a used cello a good way to start for a beginner or am I being a mega retard?

Hawkperson
Jun 20, 2003

Where do you live? Buying used is fine...generally. There's got to be a string specialist (teacher, store, something) somewhere near you. Think of it kind of like buying a used car. Buyer beware when you're just buying some random dude's old cello, and if you really want to be careful about it, you'll consult a "mechanic" (read: musician).

edit: "Stradivarius" always trips my bullshit sensor, because they want you to think it's expensive and amazing. They almost always "mean" that it's made in a similar style, but it's misleading. The prices I'm seeing for this brand are also worrying me. Cheap string instruments are, well, cheap. If you're not sure of your stick-to-it-iveness, go for it. But if you end up loving it you'll want to upgrade almost immediately, I'm betting.

Hawkperson fucked around with this message at 05:46 on Sep 2, 2015

hazardousmouse
Dec 17, 2010
The research I've been doing has led me to a few conclusions. There's about three different tiers of normal cello quality, depending on the skill level of the craftsman. Apprentice, journeyman, and master crafted with mass produced chinese stuff normally landing between the apprentice and journeyman tiers. I've also concluded that regardless of what grade you buy you should always replace the strings when you buy used.

There's one or two dedicated luthiers in Omaha, NE with a few good music shops, I have yet to go to these places. At the moment buying a decent cello straight from a shop is going to be tight on the budget which was why I was going to try and ease the purchase through used.

The little bit of info I could turn up on Leon Aubert was that they were made in Romania but I couldn't find any info on how quality they are and what price ranges they should be in.

Edit: Did some more digging, seems like Leon Aubert is typically a cheap company and it's likely the guy got hosed when he bought it and doesn't know it's only worth half what he's asking. Guess I'll keep looking! Maybe even hit up shop! But that'd be the smart thing to do and we can't have that.

hazardousmouse fucked around with this message at 09:47 on Sep 2, 2015

Gym Leader Barack
Oct 31, 2005

Grimey Drawer
See if any of those music shops do instrument rental, you might be able to get a great cello for fairly minimal outlay while you save for a decent one.

Hawkperson
Jun 20, 2003

Some of the shop people are good people, and will hook you up with someone who is trying to sell their used cello or refer you to a private teacher (who always seem to have at least one student trying to upgrade and sell their old instrument).

Used instruments in good condition don't depreciate as much as you might be hoping, though. Finding a "deal" almost always means the instrument has got some problems.

hazardousmouse
Dec 17, 2010
I read that some shops do a sort of credit program where you rent and accumulate points towards a later purchase of a different instrument. Shops will probably be my best option, thanks folks!

Hollis Brownsound
Apr 2, 2009

by Lowtax

Raptor1033 posted:

I read that some shops do a sort of credit program where you rent and accumulate points towards a later purchase of a different instrument. Shops will probably be my best option, thanks folks!

Yeah, most shops work through one of 3 major companies. The one I use is veritas https://www.veritas-online.com all their instruments are rent to own and I know for a fact that you can buy an instrument from any store that rents through them too. Their instruments are typically very well kept. They are always having some kind of special, like right I'm running a 4 month special, pay for one month then get 3 free after that.

KingSlime
Mar 20, 2007
Wake up with the Kin-OH GOD WHAT IS THAT?!
I'm interested in a little or mini keyboard that can let me record and assign loops, sort of as a way to make music with a few instruments on the spot with nothing more than my grasp of music theory and some creativity. Are those midi controllers with the pad what I'm looking for?

If not what exactly is the name for this hypothetical keyboard? I'm sure they exist.

Flipperwaldt
Nov 11, 2011

Won't somebody think of the starving hamsters in China?



You need to specify whether this needs to be a stand alone thing or if it being an accessory to a computer/tablet is ok. That's go!ng to make a lot of difference to the answers.

KingSlime
Mar 20, 2007
Wake up with the Kin-OH GOD WHAT IS THAT?!
Ooh well standalone would be very much preferred. I feel like it would be a fun thing to whip out and woo people with, just not sure if there's a solution out there for this. My feeble attempts at googling this have mostly just dug up midi controllers, which definitely seem to require software/a library of sounds to assign.

Flipperwaldt
Nov 11, 2011

Won't somebody think of the starving hamsters in China?



I thought you'd be inundated with all kinds of answers by now; I suggest crossposting your question to the Synth thread. I'm sure someone there can give you an actual informed answer instead of the dodgy guesses based on spec sheets I'd be able to give you.

KingSlime
Mar 20, 2007
Wake up with the Kin-OH GOD WHAT IS THAT?!
Yeah, I feel like I've seen people on Youtube pull off the kind of stuff I'm trying to do here, but their setup could very well involve a computer and the appripriate software, as well a solid sound interface. I just want the instrument, assuming it even exists. Otherwise I reckon I can stick to composition software.

Anyways, I shot off the question to the synth thread, see if I get any ideas.

Trig Discipline
Jun 3, 2008

Please leave the room if you think this might offend you.
Grimey Drawer
Honestly if I was trying to do something along those lines I'd probably just go with an iPad and some combination of apps, with a cheap external controller for triggering stuff. Still very portable, although it is two things instead of one.

Trig Discipline fucked around with this message at 22:41 on Sep 8, 2015

Umph
Apr 26, 2008

When I was a kid my buddy had a sampler, not sure what it was but you could effectively create sounds and play them back. I purchased a consumer keyboard about a year ago, but the recording limitations on it bother me. It can only record 5 songs, no looping or anything. I was curious, and I know absolutely nothing about this.

If I wanted to say... plug my keyboard into a thing, that hooked into a sampler.. thing, so I could record and play music, loop it, add effects, just for fun/relaxation, but not spend a ton of money, where would I start looking? I don't need to edit it with a computer, or do anything afterwards. Just play music, have it repeat back while I play more music, add effects, and be able to sing. The looping stations seem to start in the 500's, but ideally the whole setup would cost less. I don't mind buying used, and it doesn't need to be fancy. Just fun to play with.

Are you guys familiar with Reggie Watts? Apparently his entire live kit costs under 600$, and he's a professional. Essentially looking for what he uses, minus a few model numbers, features, and back a few years.

Thanks!

Umph fucked around with this message at 23:00 on Sep 23, 2015

Trig Discipline
Jun 3, 2008

Please leave the room if you think this might offend you.
Grimey Drawer
Last time I saw Reggie where I could see his board, he was using a couple of Line 6 DL4s and a little line mixer. That's also what Andrew Bird and TuneYards are using most of the time. They're cheap, fairly rugged, and pretty feature-rich for a cheapo little floor delay box.

e: Yeah, you see it here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRmRr3Z8Zv8

and here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZS7GJdQT8Hg

It's the green pedal. I swear I've seen him use two at once before to keep multiple parts stored. I know Bird does.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUDX8SBj7gc

Trig Discipline fucked around with this message at 23:48 on Sep 23, 2015

Flipperwaldt
Nov 11, 2011

Won't somebody think of the starving hamsters in China?



It's a bit left field, but if this isn't necessarily about doing everything live, the Zoom R24 is a drat flexible piece of kit, though it would still run you $500. But then it would have all the effects built in, can build entire songs from loops and whatever.

Trig Discipline
Jun 3, 2008

Please leave the room if you think this might offend you.
Grimey Drawer
Also fwiw you have no idea how poo poo your sense of rhythm is until you start looping. I've played a bunch of instruments in a bunch of bands over the years, and have never had a problem keeping time. When you start trying to build a beat in pieces like Reggie Watts or Merrill Garbus, though, every microsecond of imprecision just amplifies and amplifies and suddenly you go "oh hey I suck at this".

philkop
Oct 19, 2008

Chomp chomp chomp...We have the legendary Magic Beans
Goon Made Wallets
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I'm getting into composition, specially for video games.

My setup is basically ableton with a midi controller and an apc40 for arranging.

I'd like a super broad range of quality sounds and I was considering getting a workstation like the Korg Kross instead of just using vsts packs and a midi controller.

Just looking for some advice on workstation vs midi controller + vsts.

For me, the workstation would be awesome for the workflow. I love being able to flip through and sample sounds as I'm jamming out new ideas. Most of my production codes together on a sort of jammy improv style.

I also very much like the idea of having an "Instrument" that makes sounds regardless of whether or not my computer is running.

E: I should also mention that I play and record everything live, percussion included, not program it in as is common in some workflows.

philkop fucked around with this message at 06:18 on Sep 25, 2015

Manky
Mar 20, 2007


Fun Shoe

Trig Discipline posted:

Also fwiw you have no idea how poo poo your sense of rhythm is until you start looping. I've played a bunch of instruments in a bunch of bands over the years, and have never had a problem keeping time. When you start trying to build a beat in pieces like Reggie Watts or Merrill Garbus, though, every microsecond of imprecision just amplifies and amplifies and suddenly you go "oh hey I suck at this".

It's kinda great

Gym Leader Barack
Oct 31, 2005

Grimey Drawer

philkop posted:

I'm getting into composition, specially for video games.

My setup is basically ableton with a midi controller and an apc40 for arranging.

I'd like a super broad range of quality sounds and I was considering getting a workstation like the Korg Kross instead of just using vsts packs and a midi controller.

Just looking for some advice on workstation vs midi controller + vsts.

For me, the workstation would be awesome for the workflow. I love being able to flip through and sample sounds as I'm jamming out new ideas. Most of my production codes together on a sort of jammy improv style.

I also very much like the idea of having an "Instrument" that makes sounds regardless of whether or not my computer is running.

E: I should also mention that I play and record everything live, percussion included, not program it in as is common in some workflows.

Check out Maschine if you haven't already, it ticks all of your boxes except the "is an instrument without a computer" one, but it's really easy to throw tracks together and audition new samples. Comes with a ton of content these days and integrates seamlessly with the Komplete libraries, and also ties in well with ableton if you prefer the familiar mixing environment.

Trig Discipline
Jun 3, 2008

Please leave the room if you think this might offend you.
Grimey Drawer

Manky posted:

It's kinda great

Absolutely.

philkop
Oct 19, 2008

Chomp chomp chomp...We have the legendary Magic Beans
Goon Made Wallets
.

RandomCheese posted:

Check out Maschine if you haven't already, it ticks all of your boxes except the "is an instrument without a computer" one, but it's really easy to throw tracks together and audition new samples. Comes with a ton of content these days and integrates seamlessly with the Komplete libraries, and also ties in well with ableton if you prefer the familiar mixing environment.

I had machine for a while but didn't like the workflow. I much prefer what I have going with ableton. I kept all of the machine samples though ;D

Drink-Mix Man
Mar 4, 2003

You are an odd fellow, but I must say... you throw a swell shindig.

I'm pretty new to drum machines, thinking of buying my first. Can I midi my arranger keyboard into an analog drum machine (like Korg Volca beats) and have it play, say, the preset drum patterns from the arranger?

Flipperwaldt
Nov 11, 2011

Won't somebody think of the starving hamsters in China?



Really, really depends on the arranger keyboard. Not even whether it's technically possible; really whether they have allowed you to output the preset patterns over midi. I've had some older Roland and Casio junk in the past where this was just a big no-no. I've always assumed this was to prevent people from "pirating" those patterns, effectively. Which is a big-ish deal if that is half of what your device does, like in the case of the Roland Arranger module something or other I had.

I don't know if things have changed in the past 30 years. But I wouldn't just assume it's possible by default.

cat doter
Jul 27, 2006



gonna need more cheese...australia has a lot of crackers
Are there any good tools that help you write down/lay out music? I used to use guitar pro but found it really tedious to use, and I'm more looking for something composer facing, something for writing down parts quickly without having to record them. Guitar pro outputting to midi was super useful too.

Southern Heel
Jul 2, 2004

MuseScore (free windows)?

cat doter
Jul 27, 2006



gonna need more cheese...australia has a lot of crackers

Southern Heel posted:

MuseScore (free windows)?

Oh, awesome, this has literally everything I was after. Thanks!

KS
Jun 10, 2003
Outrageous Lumpwad
I have a PA system mounted in a gear rack. There are 6 devices (wireless mic receivers, etc) with AC to DC power bricks, and it makes a mess because they take up all the space on the rack mounted PDU.

Is there a solution made for this? One power supply that can power multiple devices?

I mean I probably don't want to use it for every device for redundancy, but using something for most of them would be cool.

If not, I guess a bunch of 1 ft power cords zip tied neatly is the answer...

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Simone Poodoin
Jun 26, 2003

Che storia figata, ragazzo!



Are they all the same kind of plug/voltage? Maybe something like the daisy chain adapters used for guitar pedals might work: http://amzn.to/1Gapenv

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