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I am still on FMLA SO I wasn't there for the crash but apparently it was not without warning. Looks like the people on those cushy details get to extend them a little longer.
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kmcormick9 posted:I am still on FMLA SO I wasn't there for the crash but apparently it was not without warning. Looks like the people on those cushy details get to extend them a little longer. Which crash?
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Aug 19, 2015 02:31
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The Ferret King posted:Which crash? IIRC, he's at ZDC.
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Aug 19, 2015 02:41
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Oh, the computer crash. We've been talking about helicopters and aircraft types for a page.
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Aug 19, 2015 02:49
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D'oh http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/25/nyregion/pilot-in-fatal-long-island-crash-was-directed-to-nonexistent-runway-report-says.html
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Infinotize posted:D'oh http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/25/nyregion/pilot-in-fatal-long-island-crash-was-directed-to-nonexistent-runway-report-says.html What a bummer. I wonder if the radar maps available to the controllers there are old. Here's what that site looks like now: http://tinyurl.com/pgq9kpo Here's some info on the airport that used to exist: http://www.airfields-freeman.com/NY/Airfields_NY_LongIs_Nassau.htm#bethpage quote:The last aeronautical chart depiction which has been located showing the Grumman Bethpage airfield still in operation In 2003, only about 1/4 of the runway remained as unmaintained pavement. Whether it was landable then or not is questionable, and there certainly isn't anything that's useful for aircraft there now. The Ferret King fucked around with this message at 20:41 on Aug 25, 2015 |
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It kinda sounds from the article like the controller gave him the nearest airport, and the pilot replied that he was unable, and the controller reached deep into his  Has the audio cropped up anywhere yet? And speaking of audio, whats the legality of posting ATC recordings? I know they're public record, but do they have to be officially released, or can anyone with the recording distribute it freely?
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I'm told this is the link off of Live ATC that caught it: http://www.liveatc.net/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=12610.0;attach=8426 Requires registration to download.
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Welp, my area has hit the staffing level where a medical DQ or two equals people on the no overtime list getting forced into overtime shifts with less than 2 weeks notice  I told them I couldn't do it because I had a sleep study scheduled on that day. They just laughed. I should really get a sleep study scheduled and then see who's laughing.
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fknlo posted:Welp, my area has hit the staffing level where a medical DQ or two equals people on the no overtime list getting forced into overtime shifts with less than 2 weeks notice What's the shortest notice you guys get... I ask as in the peak Summer we regularly get calls/texts from ops "Can you be in in 1 hour to go to..." When it's really bad they then add "and don't go home for your uniform!"
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hjp766 posted:What's the shortest notice you guys get... If you're on your days off, they'll call within hours of shift start, or after shift start with a "get here when you can." This all assumes you actually pick up your phone. You certainly don't have to. For more notice, they can schedule OT anytime before 7 days from the shift and they don't have to notify you. Inside of 7 days they must notify you. If staffing permits, you can turn it down and they'll go down the list and offer it to the next available. If staffing doesn't permit, they'll force it as mandatory overtime, still have to give you notice inside of 7 days. Thankfully, our present contract requires them to give you the full 8 hours of overtime if you're scheduled in the above manner. During the contract dispute between 2006 and 2010, they could force you to come in then send you home after a few minutes if they didn't need you afterall. If they hold you over on a normal working day (up to 2 hours since we time-out after 10hrs in a given day) they have to let you work at least 1 of those hours. Again, during the dispute it wasn't uncommon to get "held over," cancel your evening plans, then find out 15 minutes later that they changed their mind and you had to go home. That kind of poo poo is why I'll always be pro union even if it ever inconveniences me.
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The Ferret King posted:That kind of poo poo is why I'll always be pro union even if it ever inconveniences me. Hear Hear. Absolute Godsend they are. The manure we've dodged thanks to our company council is incredible.
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Today at work, some weird technical glitch caused my transmissions to go out, not only just over my frequencies, but also out of the shout line speakers at the adjacent navy approach control facility in Kingsville TX where my friend works. He says I have a good radio voice, hahah. I had to text him after and make sure it was just my transmissions going out when I keyed up, not the horrible poo poo I was saying off frequency also. Thankfully it was the former. What a weird glitch.
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Tonight I was a key player in getting a controller from Indy to call a guy in my area a cock over the line. To the Indy controllers credit, the guy is a massive cock.
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fknlo posted:Tonight I was a key player in getting a controller from Indy to call a guy in my area a cock over the line. To the Indy controllers credit, the guy is a massive cock. We have a running fued with one of our approach controls, due in no small part to several controllers in my area being massive cocks. Teach me your ways, that I may learn to get others to shame my coworkers for me. Content: In ERAM, clicking the non-ADS-B button in DB Fields causes non-ADS-B track targets to display a coral A to the left of the AID. Does anyone know if this is a reliable indicator of the aircraft's actual ADS-B out capability, or is it just whether ADS-B is the current preferred sensor for that track? We've had a couple guys ask for ADS-B equipment checks, and we're really not totally sure of the symbology on our end. Gonna ask our automation guy on Monday for an official answer, but my trainer and I are curious, and this thread has been dead, recently.
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MrYenko posted:Teach me your ways, that I may learn to get others to shame my coworkers for me. It involved a pretty stupid point out on Indy Center's part. They pointed an aircraft off KIND out to me and were flashing it at the sector above me. 10000 feet above the aircraft when they called him for the handoff. It got into his airspace for about 2 miles. It popped up on my scope and I zoomed way out and had absolutely nothing coming so "point out approved" .
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MrYenko posted:We have a running fued with one of our approach controls, due in no small part to several controllers in my area being massive cocks. Teach me your ways, that I may learn to get others to shame my coworkers for me. The way I was told was that eram is currently like one of those xm-ready car stereos, it doesn't have the receiver but it is designed to work seamlessly when one is plugged in. AFAIK, the scopes on the floor are mode c only, and do not have ANY ads-b data sent to them. There may be a non operational scope somewhere in the building that shows it, but you don't get it on the floor.
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kmcormick9 posted:The way I was told was that eram is currently like one of those xm-ready car stereos, it doesn't have the receiver but it is designed to work seamlessly when one is plugged in. We do get ADS-B data, though. Some aircraft don't show the A when its selected, update more often, and will show ADS-B as a valid (although never preferred) sensor in the sensor sort box. We also get callsigns in limited datablocks on untracked targets for a couple helicopters that operate in our airspace. Its loving weird.
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The guy who lit Chicago Center on fire and tried to kill himself last September was sentenced today to 12.5 years in prison.
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Have my check ride for my first two radar positions, today. Managed to get a solid three, maybe three and a half hours of sleep for it.
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Good luck. We're all counting on you.
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The Ferret King posted:Good luck. We're all counting on you. I'm now a radar controller. Stop calling me Shirley.
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Congratulations.
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MrYenko posted:I'm now a radar controller. Congrats man! It's a huge relief to get those first two out of the way. And more money too!
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MrYenko posted:I'm now a radar controller. Congrats... if on the east coast I should be winding you up in the New Year, and that goes for all... they just confirmed my A330 conversion is due in January!
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Effective October 15, the IVNKA1 SID off of Palm Beach International becomes the SLIDZ1. The fixes IVNKA, DONLD, TRUMP, and UFIRD become SLIDZ, RIDRR, RBACK, and CRRMN, respectively. ...Which is pretty amusing.  Annoyingly, CRRMN is maybe 40 or 50nm from CRMIN, an RNAV fix on an unrelated STAR. I'm absolutely sure that won't cause any gently caress-ups, right guys?
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Awesome, ZNY oceanic has SOORY and SORRY is in Connecticut, I think. I've heard of pilots punching in the wrong fix and ending up in ZNY radar instead of continuing east bound!
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drat, DRUNK doesn't exist anymore over Ted Kennedy's house
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I didn't win union rep  I only ran because I didn't think anyone else was going to and our previous rep sucked. Unfortunately I think it's too late to reverse the thing where they only have one person coming in early to relieve the mid workers.
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fknlo posted:I didn't win union rep Jesus. We have two relievers, and the flex on our 6am shift is 5:30, which almost everyone uses, so they get more time before their mids. Half the time when I get there at 6:30, it's already busy enough that we start splitting things the moment someone qualified walks in.
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MrYenko posted:Jesus. We have two relievers, and the flex on our 6am shift is 5:30, which almost everyone uses, so they get more time before their mids. Half the time when I get there at 6:30, it's already busy enough that we start splitting things the moment someone qualified walks in. We have 3 people come in at 5:45. Next year it's one person at 5:55(10 minute flex) and then the other 2 at 6:15. Don't think there's a flex on that one. During the week we almost always have 2 sectors open before 6:15. So the mid person gets to sit there while relief opens up a sector. Gonna be fun when the 5:55 person bangs in! We're also the only area doing this for some reason. Probably has nothing to do with it being loving retarded. I also asked about the times when we have 3 sectors open before 6:15. "That almost never happens". While true, this isn't the job where "that almost never happens" flies as a response.
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fknlo posted:We have 3 people come in at 5:45. Next year it's one person at 5:55(10 minute flex) and then the other 2 at 6:15. Don't think there's a flex on that one. During the week we almost always have 2 sectors open before 6:15. So the mid person gets to sit there while relief opens up a sector. Gonna be fun when the 5:55 person bangs in! We're also the only area doing this for some reason. Probably has nothing to do with it being loving retarded. Somewhat related story: Me: "Hey, why are these departures still being routed directly through a giant thunderstorm that's been there for three hours, despite there being other good DTAs with no weather at all?" Sup: "Well, there are only five or six more left."  Also somewhat related: We just got a really good union rep. Hes one of the brand new CPCs, but he has a knack for this stuff, and the interest to actually do it, which is 90% of the battle. In just a couple months, hes put us on an electronic bid system that has made bidding a lot less of a pain in the rear end, gotten an area-wide email list started, got the Fri/Sat and Sat/Sun crews realigned with the others (they had seven, and Wed/Thu had three for a couple months, as an example) un-hosed our Metroplex representation (oh god there were some quality individuals on that detail before,) and was a oval office-hair away from getting a smattering of straight-day and straight-night shift rotations approved on certain crews. (One of the old guys bitched right at the Facility Manager, because if he cant have five morning shifts on Saturday/Sunday, well then nobody should be able to have them.) He's a good dude. (Our union rep, not the bitter old gently caress.)
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Odd question: for those at centers, do you have a functional cafeteria? Ours has the cafeteria facilities, but no contractor to run them.
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MrYenko posted:Odd question: for those at centers, do you have a functional cafeteria? Ours has the cafeteria facilities, but no contractor to run them. We apparently used to have this. No clue on how long ago. Probably not since the white book when you couldn't leave the facility. They're theoretically turning some of the old unused space into a workout area.
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Minneapolis center did 3 years ago when I visited.
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Do we have any high level TRACON guys posting here? I'm a bit over 1 month away from my move to D10 (DFW approach) and I wouldn't mind some pointers. They're sending me back to OKC for the advanced radar (TSEW) sims right after I check in. Anyone been to that?
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Given the number of times I've gotten lost driving out of DFW, I pity the man who handles the airplane end of it. Isn't it right up there among the busiest airports in the world, by some metric?
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Bad Angus! Bad!
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Delivery McGee posted:Given the number of times I've gotten lost driving out of DFW, I pity the man who handles the airplane end of it. Isn't it right up there among the busiest airports in the world, by some metric? According to this site: https://aspm.faa.gov/opsnet/sys/Tracon.asp It's 6th in the nation in "overall operations" which is combined IFR/VFR movements for every airport under its control. However, my welcome letter says it's 3rd in the nation which is probably more accurate when accounting for the size of the airspace. The traffic count website doesn't take into consideration that Northern California TRACON, and Southern California TRACON are absolutely massive, covering a lot more airports, and subsequently, split among a greater number of controllers. But DFW doesn't have the same airspace constrictions to deal with as somewhere such as New York has. So there are many claims as to who's really busier (It's probably Chicago and Atlanta, really).
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