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Why the Libs and NDP haven't been POUNDING on the Tories for their hypocrisy when it comes to the military confounds me.
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Sep 30, 2015 17:14
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The Liberals are still remembered for the Dark Decade, they're not much better, and absolutely none of the parties are saying anything about improving health care and education either. Vote for the new government, same as the old.
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Sep 30, 2015 18:34
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Judging by social media and the news, Lawson is going to become our very own Benedict Arnold.
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Sep 30, 2015 18:41
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Barrakketh posted:Judging by social media and the news, Lawson is going to become our very own Benedict Arnold. He's going to hand RMC over to the British?
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Sep 30, 2015 19:22
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Frosted Flake posted:He's going to hand RMC over to the British? Hopefully the Brits can burn it down just like the white house
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Sep 30, 2015 19:41
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Frosted Flake posted:He's going to hand RMC over to the British? It's the only way to preserve it's
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Sep 30, 2015 21:05
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If RMC/ROTP dropped into the ocean and we went to something more like other countries have - enlist first, then get streamlined into leadership school that every officer has to go through - it might improve things a bit. After seeing how much time/money/energy gets wasted on attacting/recruiting a very small percentage of total yearly intake, it's no surprise that so many think their poo poo doesn't stink.
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Oct 1, 2015 01:50
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You can take ROTP away now that I went through it getting paid to take 5 classes one day and sleeping the rest of the week. ROTP Civi U ruled, although I was scared shitless of my ULO.
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ub posted:That's surprising, we don't have NGS capability now and I wouldn't have thought it would be a priority for any new class. Too offensive, not very Canadian. Increased emphasis on littoral ops means its an easy way to increase our "joint" capabilities (a priority for the Navy) without a massive cost (as opposed to say, VLS Tomahawks strike capability). That said I haven't been following the CSC project too closely and I would not be at all surprised if it doesn't make it into the final requirements proposal. If it comes down to hull numbers vs capability within a given budget hull numbers win every time. flakeloaf posted:Five minutes is more than enough time to tell a DEO from a ringknocker, so many of them are that insufferable. I think it's because the DEOs had time to become fully functioning adults before joining, where the ringknockers were tempered in the flames of Mt. Bullshit. It may surprise you to learn that RMC doesn't really create type-A assholes, it just attracts them. If it was shutdown tomorrow you'd all be bitching about DEO or ROTP Civy U officers because that's where that brand of overachiever personality would largely end up, and even then I would only put those at maybe 10-15% of all the cadets there, in my experience anyway. There are advantages and disadvantages to every officer entry plan. You guys put way too much emphasis on RMC as an rear end in a top hat factory... its just a university where everyone wears uniforms and the gender ratios are reversed from a civilian school. All your real training is done over the summers at the same training centers everyone else attends. I suppose if you only deal with 2Lt/Lts then maybe I don't blame you, since at that stage in your life you are the "most" RMC. Certainly by the time you hit Captain or Major the differences are all but erased between the various entry programs as A) you have far more experience doing your job B) you've had years of working with, learning from and forging friendships with other officers that effect your leadership style and C) The us vs them, RMC vs DEO/CivyU BS is a junior officer thing (because at that point your 4 years in school is all the experience you have). Once you get a few years under your belt no one gives a poo poo where you went to school, and if you are an rear end in a top hat, its because you came to the forces as an rear end in a top hat, not because you wore a uniform at your college. RMC is not always a great place to be, but it is a great place to be from. RMC has a pretty strong alumnus network that can provides advantages, as well as giving you a large network of friends and contacts within the CAF, not just stove-piped to your element / trade. Anyway, if any of you have a different opinion of RMC than I based on your time there I'd like to hear it. I attended 99-03 for reference. Simkin posted:If RMC/ROTP dropped into the ocean and we went to something more like other countries have - enlist first, then get streamlined into leadership school that every officer has to go through - it might improve things a bit. After seeing how much time/money/energy gets wasted on attacting/recruiting a very small percentage of total yearly intake, it's no surprise that so many think their poo poo doesn't stink. I can't find any recent figures but when I attended roughly 40-45% of the yearly officer intake went through RMC, and the college ramped up its intake in current years. Not the majority but hardly a very small percentage either.
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I guess the perspective is different as a grunt but Ringknockers remind me of the prior-Cadet privates. Sure, after 3 or 4 years you're chill, but drat if that doesn't make you a pain in the rear end initially.
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Oct 1, 2015 22:09
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I've seen someone try to pull the 'senior no-hook private' card on OJT because their BMQ serial started a week earlier. Also knew a Balkan vet who CFRd and was a dick to enlisted dudes, micky mouse poo poo like not holding doors open for them. Assholes gon' rear end in a top hat.
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Oct 1, 2015 23:44
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Frosted Flake posted:I guess the perspective is different as a grunt but Ringknockers remind me of the prior-Cadet privates. Sure, after 3 or 4 years you're chill, but drat if that doesn't make you a pain in the rear end initially. quote:I suppose if you only deal with 2Lt/Lts then maybe I don't blame you, since at that stage in your life you are the "most" RMC. As NCMs we're going to interact most with the people at the beginning of their careers so that notion holds water.
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Oct 1, 2015 23:51
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I was on BMQ/SQ (BASIC STORY OH gently caress) with a prior Cadet CWO who, at first, thought he was king poo poo. There were other former cadets, myself included (lol air cadets) and we very, very swiftly learned to let him think he was king poo poo, as the instructors swooped upon that poo poo like a vulture to fresh meat.
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Oct 1, 2015 23:56
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For your first few years, often the less you admit to knowing the better. Establish low expectations and then look good when you beat them.
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Oct 2, 2015 00:23
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I was in sea cadets for 4 odd years and I'll never understand the kids who were so fired up about how much they thought being in cadets was going to make them the greatest armyman ever when they joined up. I mean, from what I understand, there are a few small bonuses and upsides associated with it, but nothing worth making an rear end of yourself over or really even mentioning once you're in
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Oct 2, 2015 00:41
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I lived near one of the armories in Vancouver (by arbutus and 11th) and there was a cadet band there. I'd walk by on occasion when they were getting out and every single kid was asian, which seemed odd even for Vancouver. The cadet bands must be serious stuff for tiger moms or something.
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Oct 2, 2015 00:51
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Lol Jebus that was the most RMC response ever
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Oct 2, 2015 01:35
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DrakeriderCa posted:Lol Jebus that was the most RMC response ever Well if the nobles don't take the time to tell us how some kinds are better than others how would we low born enlisted know? Just kidding Jebus. Mostly.
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Oct 2, 2015 02:51
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I thought maybe you'd appreciate some insight from someone who went.  After all if you just want to run your mouth and circlejerk about things you know nothing about we've got army.ca for that.
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Oct 2, 2015 03:10
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I...actually did? I just couldn't resist the urge to poke some fun.
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Oct 2, 2015 03:19
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It was directed more at Drakerider than you (and tongue in cheek at that - except the dig at army.ca, that place is pretty terrible)
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Oct 2, 2015 03:23
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The most Canadian of Internet fights.
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Oct 2, 2015 03:31
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In keeping with OP Honour have a pleasant and professional evening, colleague.
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Oct 2, 2015 03:35
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Aren't we required by the CFAOs to write #NotInMyCF anytime someone says OP Honour?
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Oct 2, 2015 03:44
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Can't be, current messaging is CAF.
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Oct 2, 2015 03:58
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LCdr. Jebus posted:I thought maybe you'd appreciate some insight from someone who went. Ah, we're all just having fun here. I mean, how can you not laugh at this: LCdr. Jebus posted:It may surprise you to learn that RMC doesn't really create type-A assholes 
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I tried but I could only write un-Canadian things and I couldn't remember what was called. I'm sorry. In the spirit of OP HONOUR, if all of you could please erase that collection of offensive Nijmegen marching songs and meme of the pink tank captioned "FAGGOTS" that'd be great. I'm getting tired of those things clogging up useful work.
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Oct 2, 2015 13:46
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Could someone forward me the memo regarding OP HONOUR What the hell is it?
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Oct 2, 2015 14:17
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"No cussing, shitbirds." That has been my experience with it so far. Maybe it's more involved elsewhere?
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Oct 2, 2015 14:27
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MA-Horus posted:Could someone forward me the memo regarding OP HONOUR It's a CDS order that was broadcasted to everyone on the DWAN by him twice, and also to everyone n times by the 2n bosses between that position and the big boss. SUBJ REF ALSO PROMULGATED AS CANFORGEN BUT SAID DOCS ILLEGIBLE BECAUSE FORMATTING AND UNNECESSARILY MILITARY LANGUAGE IMPEDE ATTEMPTS TO READ SAME. The short version is that anything even resembling rape culture is out and if you're seen doing anything other than fully supporting that mission you will be pilloried at the front gates. Originally they were going to use the gym but nobody knows where it is.
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Oct 2, 2015 14:36
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I still don't understand how they could think that it was a good name for it, and I can barely say the name out loud myself without laughing.
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Oct 2, 2015 14:40
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Just don't call the stand-down order "OP OFFER".
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Oct 2, 2015 14:41
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Wait the CDS had to put out a loving order saying not to rape? Holy moly
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Oct 2, 2015 17:37
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It's the first google hit for that term, and it's pretty thorough. http://www.forces.gc.ca/en/caf-community-support-services/cds-operation-order-op-honour.page
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Oct 2, 2015 17:44
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Oh my god it's an actual 5 part SMESC op order On how to stop being sexist idiots The Canadian Armed Forces
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Oct 2, 2015 18:29
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loving  I'm dying to know how many CO's actually gave that out to their units/OC's/Pl Comd's like actual orders. acumen fucked around with this message at 20:48 on Oct 2, 2015 |
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Oct 2, 2015 20:37
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MA-Horus posted:Oh my god it's an actual 5 part SMESC op order They're literally gonna have to deploy a Battle Group of harassment advisors, attach them a bunch of diff div assets and conduct a full advance to contact sweep of the country if this will ever work. Way too many retards in the CAF Christ, the military is the only organization that so loving fetishes its processes to the point that this is the way to go because its "military values". God i hate the Military so loving much, its 90% manchildren and weird fetishists all the way up.
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Anyone in here know anything about electrical generating system techs? A coworker of mine wants to do it and asked me about it and I have no fuckin clue so I figured one of you dorks might know.flakeloaf posted:Originally they were going to use the gym but nobody knows where it is. lmfao
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