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namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe
We'll see if any state owned companies with us debt go under when the fed finally raises rates.

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Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

I HAVE EVEN MORE WORTHLESS BEANIE BABIES IN MY COLLECTION THAN I HAVE WORTHLESS POSTS IN THE BEANIE BABY THREAD YET I STILL HAVE THE TEMERITY TO CRITICIZE OTHERS' COLLECTIONS

IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

EAT. SHIT.


Has anyone posted this already?
Chancellor George Osborne has said the UK and China are exploring how to link their stock markets.


I get it pales in comparison to the whole "Cameron put his penis into a severed pig's head", but it still seems like phenomenally dumb move/more British fellating of China.

E: or maybe I don't understand what's really going on with that proposal

Private Speech fucked around with this message at 21:12 on Sep 22, 2015

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Private Speech posted:

Has anyone posted this already?
Chancellor George Osborne has said the UK and China are exploring how to link their stock markets.


I get it pales in comparison to the whole "Cameron put his penis into a severed pig's head", but it still seems like phenomenally dumb move/more British fellating of China.

E: or maybe I don't understand what's really going on with that proposal

I was baffled when I read that. He's choosing NOW to advocate this?

Bro Dad
Mar 26, 2010


Private Speech posted:

E: or maybe I don't understand what's really going on with that proposal

Britain is a failing state looking for any way to keep its financial services industry afloat. Plus any negative effects of this wouldn't be seen as the fault of the government (like all financial news above a 5th-grade reading level).

They're probably hoping for enough of a hot cash injection so they don't look completely inept at running the country in time for the next elections.

Izumi Konata
May 4, 2012

by Ralp

Bro Dad posted:

Britain is a failing state looking for any way to keep its financial services industry afloat. Plus any negative effects of this wouldn't be seen as the fault of the government (like all financial news above a 5th-grade reading level).

They're probably hoping for enough of a hot cash injection so they don't look completely inept at running the country in time for the next elections.

i propose the installation of a puppet queen who does nothing but dress up for annual events, while being extremely old, therefore unable to speak to the press.

Miltank
Dec 27, 2009

by XyloJW
Lol I never thought of it that way , 'Yeah, the head of State won't talk about politics but I guess thats ok for some reason.'

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Miltank posted:

Lol I never thought of it that way , 'Yeah, the head of State won't talk about politics but I guess thats ok for some reason.'

Probably because that's the job of the head of government? It's pretty normal for the head of state not to do politics in anything short of a constitutional crisis.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
MNI reports on the latest from SAFE (State Administration of Foreign Exchange:

Putting a cap on annual cash withdrawals, of CNY100,000 for Chinese citizens using bank cards at overseas ATMs
(The current limit is CNY10,000 daily, but no annual limit)
China is facing pressure from capital outflows
The SAFE has called on banks to step up checks to limit outflows but cash withdrawals at overseas ATMs create a loophole for people to move money overseas

http://news.forexlive.com/!/china-capital-outflow-safe-limits-yuan-cash-withdrawals-at-overseas-atms-20150929

Artificer
Apr 8, 2010

You're going to try ponies and you're. Going. To. LOVE. ME!!
Seems like for the time being things are pretty "stable?" It's hovered around the 3000 mark for a while now. I suppose the lack of movement itself is not good either.

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe
This is how you know China's economy is about fall on itself:
http://www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/chinas-butler-boom

Artificer
Apr 8, 2010

You're going to try ponies and you're. Going. To. LOVE. ME!!

Cultural Imperial posted:

This is how you know China's economy is about fall on itself:
http://www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/chinas-butler-boom

What the gently caress. That's some impressive excess from the growing upper class. I'm not sure what you mean though?

Izumi Konata
May 4, 2012

by Ralp

Artificer posted:

What the gently caress. That's some impressive excess from the growing upper class. I'm not sure what you mean though?

new money of an hedonistic upper-class doesn't know how to correctly spend itself. it is in denial of the true nature of the bubble economy from which its very being arose itfp.

Kopijeger
Feb 14, 2010
It is interesting that they attempt to imitate the customs of upper-class Western Europeans rather than reviving the equivalent practices of the old native upper class.

Also, why would the butlers be mostly women? Is there some cultural norm that discourages men from being domestic servants?

Ran Mad Dog
Aug 15, 2006
Algeapea and noodles - I will take your udon!

Kopijeger posted:

It is interesting that they attempt to imitate the customs of upper-class Western Europeans rather than reviving the equivalent practices of the old native upper class.

Also, why would the butlers be mostly women? Is there some cultural norm that discourages men from being domestic servants?

It's China.

Though really you could say the same of most of Asia as most countries contained within haven't made much of an attempt to get past basic misogyny or the idea that women are inherently inferior.

Murgos
Oct 21, 2010

Artificer posted:

Seems like for the time being things are pretty "stable?" It's hovered around the 3000 mark for a while now. I suppose the lack of movement itself is not good either.

If you believe in charting (I don't but in this case...) their is strong support at 3000 but the trend is still downward creating a wedge or triangle that looks like it will come to an inflection point in a week or two.

i.e. if you draw a line at 3000 it looks like the price line is hitting it and bouncing up but the general direction is still down so the bounces are getting smaller and smaller.

http://www.investopedia.com/university/charts/charts5.asp

In this case it's a descending triangle which typically is thought to indicate bearish sentiment. That is that people think the price should be lower than it is but something is propping it up.

Artificer
Apr 8, 2010

You're going to try ponies and you're. Going. To. LOVE. ME!!

Murgos posted:

If you believe in charting (I don't but in this case...) their is strong support at 3000 but the trend is still downward creating a wedge or triangle that looks like it will come to an inflection point in a week or two.

i.e. if you draw a line at 3000 it looks like the price line is hitting it and bouncing up but the general direction is still down so the bounces are getting smaller and smaller.

http://www.investopedia.com/university/charts/charts5.asp

In this case it's a descending triangle which typically is thought to indicate bearish sentiment. That is that people think the price should be lower than it is but something is propping it up.

I had no idea this was a thing. Thank you for pointing it out.

Murgos
Oct 21, 2010

Artificer posted:

I had no idea this was a thing. Thank you for pointing it out.

It's a thing kind of like Horoscopes or Astrology are a thing. Don't put too much any faith in it, for every example where it goes according to the chart theory there is another where it does something else entirely.

This is called technical analysis and here is an accurate summary http://dilbert.com/strip/2015-02-23

Some people do swear by it and claim they make millions following technical analysis though.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Remember that Chinese plan to build a rival to the Panama canal through Nicaragua?

The guy who was behind it lost 85% of his money in the stock market.

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe
Hahaahahah

Artificer
Apr 8, 2010

You're going to try ponies and you're. Going. To. LOVE. ME!!

Fojar38 posted:

Remember that Chinese plan to build a rival to the Panama canal through Nicaragua?

The guy who was behind it lost 85% of his money in the stock market.

Holy gently caress. :stare:

The Lord of Hats
Aug 22, 2010

Hello, yes! Is being very good day for posting, no?

Kopijeger posted:

Also, why would the butlers be mostly women? Is there some cultural norm that discourages men from being domestic servants?

Nothing wrong with liking ladies in suits :colbert:


Fojar38 posted:

Remember that Chinese plan to build a rival to the Panama canal through Nicaragua?

The guy who was behind it lost 85% of his money in the stock market.

Ahahahaha. I hope for Nicaragua's sake that this is enough to cancel the project (it's a bad thing for Nicaragua, right?)

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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The Lord of Hats posted:

Ahahahaha. I hope for Nicaragua's sake that this is enough to cancel the project (it's a bad thing for Nicaragua, right?)

It's a terrible thing for Nicaragua.

Mozi
Apr 4, 2004

Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die
Nap Ghost
A man, a plan, a canal, no money - Nicaragua!

Vladimir Putin
Mar 17, 2007

by R. Guyovich
I guess I feels sad for a person who has 1.1 billion?

Anyway is there any evidence that another canal connecting the Atlantic and pacific is even needed.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe
Would be pretty nice if like a meteor falls into the panama canal and we can't use it, I guess?

Ceciltron
Jan 11, 2007

Text BEEP to 43527 for the dancing robot!
Pillbug

Vladimir Putin posted:

I guess I feels sad for a person who has 1.1 billion?

Anyway is there any evidence that another canal connecting the Atlantic and pacific is even needed.

My guess is they want a canal that won't be nominally controlled by the Americans, it's a prestige thing. Also maybe facilitating smuggling, I guess?

Shifty Pony
Dec 28, 2004

Up ta somethin'


The dimensions of the Panama Canal locks is one of the major limitations for the size of cargo ships.

Wasn't one of the make work programs China did to dump ton of new cargo ships on the market? A new canal would create more reason for companies to buy bigger newer ships.

Toplowtech
Aug 31, 2004

Ceciltron posted:

My guess is they want a canal that won't be nominally controlled by the Americans, it's a prestige thing. Also maybe facilitating smuggling, I guess?
Russia would like to be able to cross a pacific-Atlantic canal not under US control.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

Shifty Pony posted:

The dimensions of the Panama Canal locks is one of the major limitations for the size of cargo ships.

Wasn't one of the make work programs China did to dump ton of new cargo ships on the market? A new canal would create more reason for companies to buy bigger newer ships.

That's why the Panama Canal is already in the midst of a massive widening and deepening project though. I believe the whole route will be upgraded by the end of 2016?



"New Panamax" is of course the dimensions for ships that will fit through the newly expanded locks. "Chinamax" refers to basically the largest ships around in bulk usage, including bulk ore shipment to China. It's got "unlimited" above water height because it involves not needing to cross under bridges.

And "Suezmax" has unlimited length because there's no locks on that canal.

Toplowtech posted:

Russia would like to be able to cross a pacific-Atlantic canal not under US control.

It's not like a Nicaragua canal wouldn't be closely monitored by the US.

Toplowtech
Aug 31, 2004

Nintendo Kid posted:

It's not like a Nicaragua canal wouldn't be closely monitored by the US.
Yeah but it's still nice for them not to have to give gently caress diplomatically.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

Toplowtech posted:

Yeah but it's still nice for them not to have to give gently caress diplomatically.

You do understand we occupied that country from 1912 to 1933? And our whole support of the Contras there throughout the 80s?

We don't exactly avoid loving with Nicaragua.

Murgos
Oct 21, 2010
Also, the whole Monroe doctrine thing. We've been claiming that for almost 200 years, not going to stop now.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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It's not like the Nicaragua canal wouldn't collapse in on itself the first typhoon.

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP
That deal for the canal also included a railway parallel to it and two airports, one at either end of the canal. Those would still be under Chinese control even if the canal was never finished.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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computer parts posted:

That deal for the canal also included a railway parallel to it and two airports, one at either end of the canal. Those would still be under Chinese control even if the canal was never finished.

Nicaragua needs a railway to nowhere and two more airports.

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

So when will the real collapse of the Chinese economy occur, if it hasn't already?

TheBalor
Jun 18, 2001

Grouchio posted:

So when will the real collapse of the Chinese economy occur, if it hasn't already?

Come back next week.

Toplowtech
Aug 31, 2004

Nintendo Kid posted:

You do understand we occupied that country from 1912 to 1933? And our whole support of the Contras there throughout the 80s?

We don't exactly avoid loving with Nicaragua.
Yeah and the next elections is going to be something i guess.

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe


http://www.bloomberg.com/quote/SHCOMP:IND

That flat line is pretty loving hilarious. You think something untoward is happening here?

lmao

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Izumi Konata
May 4, 2012

by Ralp

Cultural Imperial posted:



http://www.bloomberg.com/quote/SHCOMP:IND

That flat line is pretty loving hilarious. You think something untoward is happening here?

lmao


I call this trend "jumping the shark", due mostly to an abstract interpretation of what i believe the squiggly lines to symbolize. also, this analogy is relevant to the physics of a stone skipping across a narrow body of water. i think i might become the first perpetually stoned econoalchemist :420:

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