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Nintendo Kid posted:People who think it's totally cool to fire off 5000 rounds every weekend are a rather small minority. They're loud as gently caress, but still very much a minority that's shrinking all the time. When these are the people who dictate gun control policy (and don't kid yourself, they are), how is the fact that they are a small minority in number even remotely the point?
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Badger of Basra posted:HST terrified about developers!!! destroying neighborhood character on his quaint bungalow street Hunter Thompson was a thoroughly deranged individual and it's sort of amazing that he managed to live as long as he did considering how much he loved booze, drugs, and firearms.
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Badger of Basra posted:HST terrified about developers!!! destroying neighborhood character
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Oct 3, 2015 04:08
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Armed vet that claimed he chose not to act in MSNBC interview did an interview with Hannity saying “Immediately the school staff stopped us and told us to get inside of the building…essentially the staff wouldn’t let us go to assist.” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2I93N6H_eM
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Oct 3, 2015 04:17
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Like someone from the Air Force could've helped anyway.
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Oct 3, 2015 04:19
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Smudgie Buggler posted:I think what bothers people is that you and so many others have quite casually made a supposedly family-friendly sport out of playing with tools of murder. There are probably a few hundred thousand redneck kids every year who go take rifles out to the sticks and bump fire through a few hundred .308 rounds. Most of them don't kill anyone. Sorry that your country's kids are so bad at kicking rear end?
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Oct 3, 2015 04:21
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Yeah that guy seems like a real go-getter, a trained marksman ready to shoot them bad guys with perfect accuracy and definitely not an innocent bystander. Hell maybe he could no-scope them while bunny hopping. Without using a script even.
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Oct 3, 2015 04:22
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"They wouldn't let me be cannon fodder. How dare they!"
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Smudgie Buggler posted:When these are the people who dictate gun control policy (and don't kid yourself, they are), how is the fact that they are a small minority in number even remotely the point? They actually don't dictate gun control policy in many states, because there's even fewer of them. I am not a book posted:There are probably a few hundred thousand redneck kids every year who go take rifles out to the sticks and bump fire through a few hundred .308 rounds. Most of them don't kill anyone. It's a sad reflection of your thinking that you think shooting a tree counts as "kicking rear end".
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Nintendo Kid posted:It's a sad reflection of your thinking that you think shooting a tree counts as "kicking rear end". Just sittin' there photosynthesizing smug as poo poo.
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I am not a book posted:Sorry that your country's kids are so bad at kicking rear end? Hahahahahaha, what?
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You know it'd be really nice if we didn't have a bunch of morons playing or desperately wanting a chance at Dunning-Kruger: Lethal Arms in this country. We could at the very least force these idiots to prove their supposed mad shooting skillz in a battery of difficult target tests yearly to maintain a license to carry. If you're going to play "Good Guy With A Gun" you should at least have to prove that you're probably not going to shoot the victim/innocent bystander in the face. Mercury_Storm fucked around with this message at 04:36 on Oct 3, 2015 |
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Mercury_Storm posted:We could at the very least force these idiots to prove their supposed mad shooting skillz in a battery of difficult target tests yearly to maintain a license to carry.
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If they had strict guidelines they had to prove their performance in, maybe non-zero?
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Mercury_Storm posted:You know it'd be really nice if we didn't have a bunch of morons playing or desperately wanting a chance at Dunning-Kruger: Lethal Arms in this country. We could at the very least force these idiots to prove their supposed mad shooting skillz in a battery of difficult target tests yearly to maintain a license to carry. /troll Yeah that would really be great, but good luck amending the Constitution for that. No one wants to risk a constitutional convention and good luck getting a supermajority of both chambers to agree to limit anything that would  allow OBAMAS TYRANNY!!!!
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I keep hearing and seeing people say that this guy was a Muslim that targeted Christians. I know the second part is rumored by a couple of witnesses. Any truth to the Muslim portion?
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Rent-A-Cop posted:What percentage chance do you think that would have of being anything other than a paper bag test? What are your thoughts on castle doctrine and SYG, since we're talking paper bag tests?
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Oct 3, 2015 04:54
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The dumbest poo poo is the gun people who insist you need technical knowledge to have an informed stance about guns. It's an object that kills people with the twitch of a finger, and I know people I don't want senselessly murdered by some nut. That's it, that's the technical knowledge you need to have an informed opinion about guns. You might have a stance like "I need a gun to defend myself and my family," but you might was well have a stance like "I'm learning to count cards so I can put my kids through college" because they're about as likely to pan out.
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Bizarro Kanyon posted:I keep hearing and seeing people say that this guy was a Muslim that targeted Christians. Apparently his social media stuff had anti-theist stuff and white supremacist stuff so I severely doubt he was a Muslim.
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FAUXTON posted:What are your thoughts on castle doctrine and SYG, since we're talking paper bag tests? dogs named Charlie posted:The dumbest poo poo is the gun people who insist you need technical knowledge to have an informed stance about guns. It's an object that kills people with the twitch of a finger, and I know people I don't want senselessly murdered by some nut. That's it, that's the technical knowledge you need to have an informed opinion about guns. You might have a stance like "I need a gun to defend myself and my family," but you might was well have a stance like "I'm learning to count cards so I can put my kids through college" because they're about as likely to pan out.
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point of return posted:Apparently his social media stuff had anti-theist stuff and white supremacist stuff so I severely doubt he was a Muslim. Libertarian?
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dogs named Charlie posted:The dumbest poo poo is the gun people who insist you need technical knowledge to have an informed stance about guns. It's an object that kills people with the twitch of a finger, and I know people I don't want senselessly murdered by some nut. That's it, that's the technical knowledge you need to have an informed opinion about guns. You might have a stance like "I need a gun to defend myself and my family," but you might was well have a stance like "I'm learning to count cards so I can put my kids through college" because they're about as likely to pan out. It's an attempt to pigeonhole everyone who wants mandatory background checks and a more regulated transfer process in with people who say handguards make guns more deadly. You see, because you said clip once, it means you're a hair's breadth from bringing back the 94 AWB.
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FAUXTON posted:It's an attempt to pigeonhole everyone who wants mandatory background checks and a more regulated transfer process in with people who say handguards make guns more deadly. You know, to protect us from gangs. All those gangs that roll around with $10,000, 5' long, 35 pound, single shot rifles.
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Rent-A-Cop posted:The silent majority who want those things should really speak up because politicians keep trying to ban flash suppressors, barrel shrouds, and .50 range toys.  perhaps the silent majority of gunbunnies can speak up about wanting the GOP to do something about the purported root causes of gun violence so maybe some of that blood can get washed off for once.
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point of return posted:Apparently his social media stuff had anti-theist stuff and white supremacist stuff so I severely doubt he was a Muslim. Over the hills a wind rose, and buffets an old man riding a Rascal. He looks up sharply, his Molon Labe hat shaking. On his labored breath, a single word rasped...Taqiyya The freeper crowd is more firmly in the "false flag/crisis actor" camp at the moment, but they won't hesitate to order up a double shot of taqiyya if there's anything to remotely paint him as being Muslim.
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Rent-A-Cop posted:The silent majority who want those things should really speak up because politicians keep trying to ban flash suppressors, barrel shrouds, and .50 range toys. The people who want those things are hardly silent or a small group, however closely some might follow it up with "does anyone really need a fill-in-the-blank" stuff. Politicians have been talking about the "gun show loophole" since the Clinton administration, at least. FAUXTON posted:
I do wish Dems would press harder whenever mental health comes up in response in the debate. Conservative politicians have made it quite clear exactly how much of a poo poo they give about healthcare of any sort, and this is a good opportunity to hold their feet to the fire. eviltastic fucked around with this message at 05:47 on Oct 3, 2015 |
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dogs named Charlie posted:The dumbest poo poo is the gun people who insist you need technical knowledge to have an informed stance about guns. It's an object that kills people with the twitch of a finger, and I know people I don't want senselessly murdered by some nut. That's it, that's the technical knowledge you need to have an informed opinion about guns. You might have a stance like "I need a gun to defend myself and my family," but you might was well have a stance like "I'm learning to count cards so I can put my kids through college" because they're about as likely to pan out. You don't have to like guns, but you have to be knowledgeable if you intend to regulate them. Being ignorant about firearms means that your laws regarding firearms ignorant. The Brady Campaign galvanized the NRA and the movement of gun activists as it is now the frequent end of every talking point of "this is how liberals think guns work". Our current laws have done absolutely nothing to lower gun violence. We can talk about the decrease in violent crime over the years, but that's another story entirely unrelated. Lastly, regulating gun related crimes, such as homicides, with gun laws and regulating mass shootings with gun laws are entirely different animals. You guys cannot hope legislating laws for one will prevent the other.
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Job Truniht posted:You don't have to like guns, but you have to be knowledgeable if you intend to regulate them. Being ignorant about firearms means that your laws regarding firearms ignorant. The Brady Campaign galvanized the NRA and the movement of gun activists as it is now the frequent end of every talking point of "this is how liberals think guns work". Our current laws have done absolutely nothing to lower gun violence. We can talk about the decrease in violent crime over the years, but that's another story entirely unrelated. You don't, really. See: every technology-related piece of legislature, ever.
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OAquinas posted:You don't, really. See: every technology-related piece of legislature, ever. Or drat near any law sponsored by the GOP gunbunny mothership pertaining to women.
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OAquinas posted:You don't, really. See: every technology-related piece of legislature, ever. Good luck discrediting the NRA with that belief. That's the first thing that needs to happen. Then an overhauled NICS and background checks. Then second hand sale laws. Even then you probably won't stop mass shootings.
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eviltastic posted:From that thread: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/03/world/europe/pope-francis-kim-davis-meeting.html?_r=1 This Pope is a pretty good Pope.
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Hodgepodge posted:This Pope is a pretty good Pope. He deserves it at least as much as Obama.
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Job Truniht posted:Good luck discrediting the NRA with that belief. That's the first thing that needs to happen. Then an overhauled NICS and background checks. Then second hand sale laws. Even then you probably won't stop mass shootings. A sitting congressperson was literally shot in the head in a mass shooting and gun laws only got more relaxed, and it's almost "mass shooting of the week" in America these days and still no movement on the gun law needle. I don't honestly think anything will be done regarding gun laws, I was just pointing out the silly fallacy that legislators ever need to know anything to about the subject to pass a law about it.
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OAquinas posted:A sitting congressperson was literally shot in the head in a mass shooting and gun laws only got more relaxed, and it's almost "mass shooting of the week" in America these days and still no movement on the gun law needle. I don't honestly think anything will be done regarding gun laws, I was just pointing out the silly fallacy that legislators ever need to know anything to about the subject to pass a law about it. They can pass laws about it, but they won't be good ones. I'm willing to defend some parts of the Brady Law such as NICS, but is anyone out there really prepared to defend the legislation in its entirety? e: I mean, the NICS is concept is at least great even if it's a horrendously outdated piece of poo poo now that needs a serious overhaul Job Truniht fucked around with this message at 06:20 on Oct 3, 2015 |
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Job Truniht posted:You don't have to like guns, but you have to be knowledgeable if you intend to regulate them. Being ignorant about firearms means that your laws regarding firearms ignorant. The Brady Campaign galvanized the NRA and the movement of gun activists as it is now the frequent end of every talking point of "this is how liberals think guns work". Our current laws have done absolutely nothing to lower gun violence. We can talk about the decrease in violent crime over the years, but that's another story entirely unrelated. This is exactly it. If you ever find yourself saying "I don't need no book learnin' to make effective regulation of this thing I don't like" you're either a hard social conservative or you're thinking like one. Again, there are people who don't have a stake in weak gun control who know a good bit about guns: how they work, how they don't work, how they're used by criminals, how they're used by non-criminals. People with military or police backgrounds who had to learn a lot but wouldn't have their usage threatened by strict laws. Non-shooters who did their homework. Funnily enough, they're not heavily represented in the "we must take swift and sweeping action!" crowd. They're also relatively, or perhaps ignored, when proposals are drafted by strong gun control advocates. Why is this?
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Armed people can help in case of emerg..... oh wait a minute...
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Hey, if the good guy with a gun wasn't there, things could have been worse. At least this way the Property was recovered.
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Killer robot posted:This is exactly it. If you ever find yourself saying "I don't need no book learnin' to make effective regulation of this thing I don't like" you're either a hard social conservative or you're thinking like one. So what evidence is there that people "who did their homework" are less represented apart from wishful thinking? Besides, at this point every single proposed measure has been debated for literal decades including many proposals that don't hinge on any technical characteristics. I'm a fan of strict liability because if gun owners are so loving enthusiastic about the "cost of living in a free society" they're perfectly free to pay it themselves.
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