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butros
Aug 2, 2007

I believe the signs of the reptile master


Does anyone have a pool B permutation worked out? Is it if Scotland lose their next two, and Japan and SA win their next two then it's SA and JApan through?

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dex_sda
Oct 11, 2012


I think even watching the Scotland - Japan game you could tell that Japan had it for the first half and were looking good, they just got hosed by being tired 50 mins in

e; it's a shame cause I think with a proper schedule Japan would have it in the bag.

dex_sda fucked around with this message at 15:28 on Oct 3, 2015

LimburgLimbo
Feb 10, 2008
At good form we could definitely have won the Scotland game. Not easily, but definitely in the cards.

Painkiller
Jan 30, 2005

You think the truth will set you free...

butros posted:

Does anyone have a pool B permutation worked out? Is it if Scotland lose their next two, and Japan and SA win their next two then it's SA and JApan through?

Yeah, both SA and Japan would be on 3 wins, Scotland 2.

dex_sda
Oct 11, 2012


Painkiller posted:

Yeah, both SA and Japan would be on 3 wins, Scotland 2.

What if Scotland wins against SA (lol)? Wouldn't we be looking at SA with at most 2 wins, and Japan set for third against a tired USA?

South Africa getting eliminated in the groups would unironically own

Sneaks McDevious
Jul 29, 2010

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
I'd be surprised if Scotland lost to the USA. What if Scotland somehow beat SA though?

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Missed the first half, what's going o-:stare:

Go Japan! :neckbeard:

edogawa rando
Mar 20, 2007

julian assflange posted:

I'd be surprised if Scotland lost to the USA. What if Scotland somehow beat SA though?

It's happened before, and this Boks side is vulnerable.

dex_sda
Oct 11, 2012


Vagabundo posted:

It's happened before, and this Boks side is vulnerable.

On the other hand, they'll be out for blood

BabyFur Denny
Mar 18, 2003
If Scotland beats SA then SA is as good as out.
If SA beats Scotland then it looks like Japan is going to finish 3rd due to bonus points (SA had a losing bonus point in the match against them and Scotland a winning one)

Sneaks McDevious
Jul 29, 2010

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Vagabundo posted:

It's happened before, and this Boks side is vulnerable.

For sure and Scotland seem to be up for it so far

slothrop
Dec 7, 2006

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Soiled Meat
I wonder is someone has backed Japan/Scotland to be quarter-finalists. You wouldn't have had to put much money on it for a quality payout

dex_sda
Oct 11, 2012


Honestly were Japan even serious candidates for third place before this tournament?

BabyFur Denny
Mar 18, 2003

dex_sda posted:

Honestly were Japan even serious candidates for third place before this tournament?

Sure, who else? Samoa? They beat them in their last match. USA? lol.

rejutka
May 28, 2004

by zen death robot
Oh Samoa, maybe stop being poo poo with no points on the board rather than grumping at Japan about being poo poo with no points on the board.

dex_sda
Oct 11, 2012


BabyFur Denny posted:

Sure, who else? Samoa? They beat them in their last match. USA? lol.

I guess. I thought Samoa was regarded better though

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Dec 7, 2006

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Soiled Meat

BabyFur Denny posted:

If Scotland beats SA then SA is as good as out.
If SA beats Scotland then it looks like Japan is going to finish 3rd due to bonus points (SA had a losing bonus point in the match against them and Scotland a winning one)

In this case I hope Scotland wins, if only because Japan deserve to be through to the knock-outs

Sneaks McDevious
Jul 29, 2010

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

dex_sda posted:

Honestly were Japan even serious candidates for third place before this tournament?

I'd say so they were top ten ranked this year

dex_sda
Oct 11, 2012


slothrop posted:

In this case I hope Scotland wins, if only because Japan deserve to be through to the knock-outs

same

dex_sda
Oct 11, 2012


Oh God. This is how it happens. This is how you become a Scotland supporter, isn't it?

What have I done to deserve this

e; what a sick scrum by Japan holy poo poo

edogawa rando
Mar 20, 2007

dex_sda posted:

Honestly were Japan even serious candidates for third place before this tournament?

Not really, no. Despite wins over Wales and Italy, winning tournaments like the PNC, an increasing presence in Super Rugby and cracking the IRB top10 a couple of years ago, a lot of it was hand waived away with a "yes, but." They'd also failed to win a single fixture at a World Cup since 1991, making them perennial wooden spooners at the tournament. They're also let down by being the 800-pound silverback gorillas of the Asian region.

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer

dex_sda posted:

I guess. I thought Samoa was regarded better though

They're brutal, you wouldn't want them to be the team you played with another game 4 days later, and they have some wonderful individual players, but as a team? Not the best.

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Dec 7, 2006

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Soiled Meat
Goromaru would have to be one of the players of the tournament so far

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer
That was some lovely dancing.

Knuc U Kinte
Aug 17, 2004

dex_sda posted:

I guess. I thought Samoa was regarded better though

A few all blacks retired recently so the Samoan player pool was a little thin.

rejutka
May 28, 2004

by zen death robot
Wow, that looked somewhat permanent.

slothrop
Dec 7, 2006

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Soiled Meat
Oh dear Tim. I should have picked more Japanese and less Samoan players in my fantasy team

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer
Is he KO'd, or has he wrecked a shoulder like it was twigs?

dex_sda
Oct 11, 2012


goatface posted:

They're brutal, you wouldn't want them to be the team you played with another game 4 days later, and they have some wonderful individual players, but as a team? Not the best.

I see. Thanks for the explanation. :)

I'm guessing a 23-0 shutout at the 55 minute mark is still a surprise though

edogawa rando
Mar 20, 2007

goatface posted:

Is he KO'd, or has he wrecked a shoulder like it was twigs?

Looks like he copped a knee to the head in the replay.

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Dec 7, 2006

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Soiled Meat
Must be a very frustrating game to watch for the Samoan supporters

dex_sda
Oct 11, 2012


slothrop posted:

Must be a very frustrating game to watch for the Samoan supporters

Yeah they're not getting anything at all.

Chas McGill
Oct 29, 2010

loves Fat Philippe
Hope he's ok, that was a really nasty angle on the hit.

Painkiller
Jan 30, 2005

You think the truth will set you free...
I've only just noticed that Japan don't offload. Ever. No wonder the clear outs are so good if the supporting players don't have to look for the offload. It makes sense though, establishing new offside lines repeatedly will catch a lot of teams out. Samoa certainly haven't been able to cope, they've had 4 or 5 offside penalties.

Sneaks McDevious
Jul 29, 2010

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
In all the physical set pieces Japan are bossing it. Against tonnage such as Samoa's it's incredible

rejutka
May 28, 2004

by zen death robot

slothrop posted:

Must be a very frustrating game to watch for the Samoan supporters

Less so now.

slothrop
Dec 7, 2006

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Soiled Meat
Perez has been the standout for Samoa tonight I think

stavros880
May 2, 2005
I like monkeys
Some of those Japanese forwards were so slow tracking back to defend. They looked shattered.

slothrop
Dec 7, 2006

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Soiled Meat
gently caress off England fans. Are you not entertained?

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Chas McGill
Oct 29, 2010

loves Fat Philippe
Yeah despite the longer rest they still look tired in this second half.

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