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LITERALLY MY FETISH
Nov 11, 2010


Raise Chris Coons' taxes so that we can have Medicare for All.

KJDavid posted:

I suspect the Escapist won't back down.

If they really did run some of their sources through legal, I guarantee this conversation came up. News outlets, even "game journalist" ones, rarely fail to consider libel law. I also suspect a major media company already has substantial resources in place to deal with litigation - hell, most corporations have that.

And if CIG was really serious about their threat, why the hell would they have printed the C&D on the damned Internet?

That was really stupid.

Next question - does California have a SLAAP law?

I googled SLAAP law because I wanted to make sure you weren't making a Rick James joke or something, and this is what I found

what any of it means is beyond me, court reporting school hasn't prepared me to read legalese of this magnitude quite yet

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Tarranon
Oct 10, 2007

Diggity Dog
Every games journalist either knows they are a joke and are fine with it, or are desperately insecure about that fact. Escapist is pretty firmly planted in the latter category.

I cannot imagine a future where they back down to the hilariously impotent bullying cig is tossing their way

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos
Even the launcher is broke, it tells me that I need to download a new version and to restart the launcher (which I didn't do) then that pop up closes and LAUNCH GAME is there, it does this every time

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

Hi. gently caress you.

Everything you've done? So have I. I've read the articles. I've watched the drat videos, to the point where I even summarize the 104TC ones so other people don't have to. I met Chris, visited Santa Monica and had wonderful chats with both the community and development staff, and have had more than a few arguments with Ben about the ways thing go. I have followed development, at the source, since the Kickstarter. And you know what? CIG's progress is a loving joke. We are nearing two years since the original timeline said the Dogfighting Module would be out, when CIG first delayed things in the name of polish. We are 15 months past when Arena Commander was first released and the core gameplay experience remains a buggy, un-fun, poorly balanced mess missing massive portions of the mechanics that they continue to promise are right around the corner. We are 18 months past the original release date of the FPS (March 2014), six months past the second release date (March 2015), and the THIRD release date (end of September) has come and gone with still no FPS. This is in spite of an entire studio, with extensive CryEngine experience, being dedicated to developing two loving maps.

Star Citizen has been in development for over four years (since you've followed development "at the source" I'm sure you are well aware of this). They are two million dollars away from receiving four times the originally requested amount of $23 million. For that we have a lovely spaceflight tech demo, a glorified lobby full of guys ripped off from Call of Duty: Future War Porn, and a company that can't go Two Weeks without yet another bullshit controversy. The scope of this game, which was never terribly concrete to begin with, is utterly incomprehensible and yet continues to expand. There is no timeline, no accountability, and everything CIG has done in response to every controversy and criticism leveled at them has only damaged their standing. Anyone giving CIG more money at this stage is either delusional or retarded, and should not be considered mentally competent to handle their own finances.

So yes, it's very clear how much progress CIG has made. Not nearly enough.


If taking over this thread means we get you back in full force, I'm all for it.

Has there even been any info at all from squadron 42? Or are they still using the NO SPOILERS excuse as to why there is no info.

Apparently that is run by the "good" studio so clearly they have a lot of work done, right?

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


peter gabriel posted:

3rd Oct :lol:

Both of the tiny parts of game I can play are like that, just straight up poo poo and also hosed. Even if they weren't broke they would be irredeemably shite though ha ha

No way I am getting a refund when I have laughs like that poo poo on tap

I hate to ask because it can't be fun but please make more vids. Its suprisingly hard to find videos of how bad the game is rather than videos of people talking about how great it is over concept art.

I watched ALL FOUR of your SC videos

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001




lmao the physics

the cherry on top was the ship harmlessly bumping off the asteroid

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos

nopantsjack posted:

I hate to ask because it can't be fun but please make more vids. Its suprisingly hard to find videos of how bad the game is rather than videos of people talking about how great it is over concept art.

I watched ALL FOUR of your SC videos

4?

Edit: Yeah I am happy to make more vids now it's patched up, the problem I had was I didn;t play for 3 months because the patcher wanted to download 30 gigs every patch and it uses a torrent thing I think which no matter what settings you use in the launcher eats all your bandwith / slows the net down.

Frankly watching youtube vids of bears being funny etc took priority over patching this

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!
When I close my eyes, all I can see is an infinite ladder going straight to the stars all the way across the 'verse. And I see my hands moving on this ladder in perfect accord bringing me closer and closer to the light. Then I open my eyes and there is a smile on my face. Because I remember that some idiots pay money for jpegs of space ships.

sorla78
Oct 11, 2012

EAT THE PAIN AWAY!

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:

Has there even been any info at all from squadron 42? Or are they still using the NO SPOILERS excuse as to why there is no info.

Apparently that is run by the "good" studio so clearly they have a lot of work done, right?

- There was some broken basic levels of SQ42 from the leaked dev built, which didn't look like much work had been spent on it.
- Also some voice-over dialogue leaked.
- And a female reporter gave away the synopsis and the overbearing storyarch after CR was telling her (most probably being drunk) but asking her to keep it secret. Ofc he should have known better than trusting women. (sue me)

sorla78 fucked around with this message at 22:38 on Oct 4, 2015

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


Can you fly around in the endeavour or whatever the $900 ship is?

Are there any supes expensive ships you can't

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:

lmao the physics

the cherry on top was the ship harmlessly bumping off the asteroid

I liked the 'you died' just there emotionless, it reminded of YOU ARE WINNER! But more reserved and afterthoughty

Dusty Lens
Jul 1, 2015

All Glory unto the Stimpire. Give up your arms and legs and embrace the beautiful agony of electricity that doubles in pain every second.

TBH I appreciate the level of detail that is going into the FPS module environments to make them look just like Doom 3. It's the kind of nostalgia callback that you can't just bust out, you really have to dig in there with an attention to detail and a desire to remake it as many times as necessary.

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!
peter gabriel, make more videos, please.

Justin Tyme
Feb 22, 2011


sorla78 posted:

- There was some broken basic levels of SQ42 from the leaked dev built, which didn't look like much work had been spent on it.
- Also some of voice over dialogue leaked.
- And a female reporter gave away the synopsis and overbearing storyarch after CR was telling her (most probably being drunk) and asking her to keep it secret. Ofc he should have known better than trusting women. (sue me)

To be fair, they seem to have different game branches for different things, and the leak could have not had everything from the S42 branch. But really, what's the most likely explanation?

I wanna know exactly what the gently caress is different about the FPS module now vs when they debuted it because it all looks the loving same and it all looked perfectly playable and it just makes zero loving sense why it isn't released right now

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



peter gabriel posted:

I liked the 'you died' just there emotionless, it reminded of YOU ARE WINNER! But more reserved and afterthoughty

3+ years of work!

nopantsjack posted:

Can you fly around in the endeavour or whatever the $900 ship is?

Are there any supes expensive ships you can't

hahahah good one

the list of flyable ships is less than 10. probably 5 or so :laffo:

Damn Dirty Ape
Jan 23, 2015

I love you Dr. Zaius



peter gabriel posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V44T0p1ICYw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MP7PUUViKjI

Those are the only two parts of the game that exist, what problems? I tell you, there are no problems here man.

:laffo::laffo:

I'm dieing here.

AP
Jul 12, 2004

One Ring to fool them all
One Ring to find them
One Ring to milk them all
and pockets fully line them
Grimey Drawer

KJDavid posted:

I suspect the Escapist won't back down.

I think it'll be a quick decision, if they planned ahead correctly a response from CIG must have been seen as a real strong possibility and if their legal department was good they won't retract. If they do retract, then either the Escapist gets overruled by corporate, in which case some there might resign, or their legal department is poor which would call into question just how good the story was in the first place.

If they pull it, it's going to be harder for anyone else to pick the story up as everything will be tainted by this.

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos

nopantsjack posted:

Can you fly around in the endeavour or whatever the $900 ship is?

Are there any supes expensive ships you can't

Me personally I have no clue as gently caress buying anything other than the bare minimum for entry.
I would pay probably $100 to see one of the massive ships flip the gently caress out like mine does though on touching anything ha ha

It's like everyone who ever played G Mod is piloting the ship

Bolow
Feb 27, 2007

nopantsjack posted:

Can you fly around in the endeavour or whatever the $900 ship is?

Are there any supes expensive ships you can't

The most expensive ship in the game you can walk around in is $275. All the super expensive sperg tier ships don't exist in game in any loving capacity

Damn Dirty Ape
Jan 23, 2015

I love you Dr. Zaius



Bolow posted:

The most expensive ship in the game you can walk around in is $275. All the super expensive sperg tier ships don't exist in game in any loving capacity

I think it's funny that $275 isn't considered a super expensive sperg ship.

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

GBS Pledge Week

KJDavid posted:

And if CIG was really serious about their threat, why the hell would they have printed the C&D on the damned Internet?

That was really stupid.
Yeah unless it's just a threat for show. No plan to follow through, but start establishing reasons for failure.

"Oh woe is us, things were going to well before the escapist libeled us and our backers got scared! boo hoo."

quote:

Next question - does California have a SLAAP law?
Yes. (not the greatest one, there are still tons of slaap suits in california, but it exists.)

I'm not sure it would be invoked though, the material in that article is nasty enough that it goes beyond the type of thing SLAAP is meant for. A case would rest on veracity (CIG showing definitive proof that most of it was not true) and public interest (escapist proving that the behavior of the executives of this company is valid for the public to know because they have $90 million of other people's money).

SelenicMartian
Sep 14, 2013

Sometimes it's not the bomb that's retarded.

Paladinus posted:

When I close my eyes, all I can see is an infinite ladder going straight to the stars all the way across the 'verse. And I see my hands moving on this ladder in perfect accord bringing me closer and closer to the light. Then I open my eyes and there is a smile on my face. Because I remember that some idiots pay money for jpegs of space ships.
Didn't 'Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep' have a religion like that?

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


Bolow posted:

The most expensive ship in the game you can walk around in is $275. All the super expensive sperg tier ships don't exist in game in any loving capacity

holy poo poo theyr not even in your hangar?

where'd that "have you heard of a little game called star citizen" reddit guy go? I need him to explain this to me.

Justin Tyme
Feb 22, 2011


Also they have been working on the Idris for how many years now and it isn't even released- now imagine the time they need to flesh out all the other capital ships. Not happenin'

Tarranon
Oct 10, 2007

Diggity Dog

AP posted:

I think it'll be a quick decision, if they planned ahead correctly a response from CIG must have been seen as a real strong possibility and if their legal department was good they won't retract. If they do retract, then either the Escapist gets overruled by corporate, in which case some there might resign, or their legal department is poor which would call into question just how good the story was in the first place.

If they pull it, it's going to be harder for anyone else to pick the story up as everything will be tainted by this.

If D Smart is as well endowed as he always claims, would it be theoretically possible for him to foot the bill for the escapists legal costs if it came down to it?

Hi I don't know much about the law

Bolow
Feb 27, 2007

drat Dirty Ape posted:

I think it's funny that $275 isn't considered a super expensive sperg ship.

Its all relative :v:

Shala
Oct 15, 2006

i shot the pilot

Lipstick Apathy
What're you talking about? All those ships are flyable. You can climb through them, have great space adventures, and explore planets that will never be in your imagination every morning.
When you wake up, you can hold your dream of space trucker 3000 close to your heart as your kids cry because they don't have new diapers and the power bill WILL GET PAID TODAY, MARTHA, gently caress!

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!

SelenicMartian posted:

Didn't 'Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep' have a religion like that?

As a rule, I strive to infuse my shitposting with glimmers of pearls found among pig faeces that are popular culture.

OhDearGodNo
Jan 3, 2014

Sevorast posted:

How do I get in on this game?

It sounds like exactly the game I've always wanted. PotBS was the closest so far and it was fun for a while but lack of support killed it pretty quickly for me.

Sent you a PM

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/3ngpfr/hypothetical_youre_in_your_favourite_ship_with_2/

Its really cute that they're roleplaying the game in reddit and sorta apt that the post is tagged [hypothetical]

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!

nopantsjack posted:

holy poo poo theyr not even in your hangar?

where'd that "have you heard of a little game called star citizen" reddit guy go? I need him to explain this to me.

It's pre-alpha, man. What do you expect? A loving playable game after four years of development or something?

Zsinjeh
Jun 11, 2007

:shoboobs:

Justin Tyme posted:

Also they have been working on the Idris for how many years now and it isn't even released- now imagine the time they need to flesh out all the other capital ships. Not happenin'
This tube that connects to the oxygenator on sublevel 3 isn't modeled on the inside, Roberts wants you to remake the whole thing to match this revised design idea

AP
Jul 12, 2004

One Ring to fool them all
One Ring to find them
One Ring to milk them all
and pockets fully line them
Grimey Drawer

Tarranon posted:

If D Smart is as well endowed as he always claims, would it be theoretically possible for him to foot the bill for the escapists legal costs if it came down to it?

Hi I don't know much about the law

I don't know anything about the law in this area either, but I can't see the Escapist wanting Derek Smart paying anything for them.

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqeN6hj4dZU

Imagine this, but with Chris Roberts. Just imagine.

E: It's probably just a pre-recorded and possibly pre-rendered video, but imagine!

Cao Ni Ma
May 25, 2010



Its just impossible for this game to be completed as its been described with the amount of money they pulled in, like even if they had a hyper competent team working behind it and president/director that wasn't full of poo poo, they still wouldn't be able to finish it.

Its basically a pyramid scheme right now with the money thats coming in from the new ships being used to fund the development of the old ships and whatever systems they promised.

e-and whats hilarious is that on other sites like neogaf, which rightfully blasted other kickstarter producers from doing similar things, completely ignore or are actively sucking CRoberts cock in this. I cant wait for the amount of schadenfreude thats going to be released when it becomes obvious.

Cao Ni Ma fucked around with this message at 22:51 on Oct 4, 2015

Romes128
Dec 28, 2008


Fun Shoe
how can she SLAAP

Mr SoupTeeth
Jan 16, 2015

Paladinus posted:

It's pre-alpha, man. What do you expect? A loving playable game after four years of development or something?

They're just keeping all their card's close to their chest to prevent leaks and idea theft *hosts annual loving convention and makes appearance at every publicized games expo*.

Chocobo
Oct 15, 2012


Here comes a new challenger!
Oven Wrangler
I hope AFF does a free play weekend or something, kind of looks like they're actually making a game.

Damn Dirty Ape
Jan 23, 2015

I love you Dr. Zaius



I want to farm in space and raise space dogs so this is the game for me.

See you in the verse!

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OhDearGodNo
Jan 3, 2014

nopantsjack posted:

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/3ngpfr/hypothetical_youre_in_your_favourite_ship_with_2/

Its really cute that they're roleplaying the game in reddit and sorta apt that the post is tagged [hypothetical]

There's a post in r/outoftheloop and it's already gone to poo poo.

The SC subreddit has already spammed it with Derek Smart theories, GamerGate, and claiming not only that the sources have been discredited as Derek Smart, but that reddit figured it out.

e: mods on point, already deleted it.

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