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That was very, very good. Understated, side characters with a bit of development, pacing left with room to breathe. I don't really care if the ideas themselves weren't that original - this was just a very well put together episode at all stages. It made last week seem sloppy (which it was).
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It's nice to have some proper Doctor Who on. Whatever else I say about Moffat, bless him for pushing 2-parters this season.
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Oct 4, 2015 20:08
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Boy oh boy did I enjoy that one. Nice pacing, interesting characters, classic base under siege. Very much looking forward to next weeks.
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Oct 4, 2015 20:14
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Plavski posted:"evil company man" character I liked that dude because he made all the right calls for all the wrong reasons. First, he stops everyone from calling the submarine, which saves the world from getting ghostified. Then, he decides to get the second energy cell the Doctor wanted because it might be valuable. Don't really get why you took him to be evil, though. Seemed like he was just a greedy idiot. Dr. Gene Dango MD posted:It's nice to have some proper Doctor Who on. Whatever else I say about Moffat, bless him for pushing 2-parters this season. Yeah, I'm pleasantly surprised. Two-parters always seemed a bit hit or miss on Doctor Who. Hopefully, we won't get a two-parter turd. That would be a bummer.
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Oct 4, 2015 20:16
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And More posted:Hopefully, we won't get a two-parter turd. That would be a bummer. luckily we've already gotten one, so it's out of the way!
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Oct 4, 2015 20:37
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Attitude Indicator posted:luckily we've already gotten one, so it's out of the way! Eh, you've got pretty high standards, if that is your definition of a turd. Way too few scenes of the Doctor going: "Kids don't need medicine! Flush that poo poo down the toilet when your parents aren't looking."
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Oct 4, 2015 20:51
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DoctorWhat posted:if there's a box that contains someone mysterious, 99% of the time the Doctor's in it. The Pandorica, the coffin from BF: A Death in the Family, etc. Definitely. Plus it's a better explanation for the Tardis wanting to run away. Those ghosts aren't anything specials. There's a potential paradox being created or something more serious.
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Oct 4, 2015 21:24
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Plavski posted:arbitrary episode-ending flooding plot device that shows up out of nowhere I think you missed a lot of setup for that, there was quite a lot.
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Oct 4, 2015 21:26
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Mr Beens posted:I loved the cards - did you manage to capture the others? I made these! All those control panels - especially the big map - in the control room are so, so washed out because of a printing issue. loving gutted. Episode was cracking, though.
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Oct 4, 2015 21:35
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I know this is a continuity sperg thing, but it bugged me since I just watched the respective episode (although I can't for the life of me remember which one): 12th Doctor: Ghosts don't exist, but now they do, isn't that exciting?! 11th (maybe 10th)? Houses absorb latent psychic energy all the time, that's why so many houses have ghosts!
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Oct 4, 2015 21:37
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Printing error? Should have got the Doctor Who thread on SA to help you  (Before I left my job to go back to academic stuff I was a scientist for a company that made industrial inkjet printers)
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Oct 4, 2015 21:37
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your evil twin posted:Absolutely loved that episode. Felt like some classic scary 70s Who. Remember to throw a net over Robert Holmes when he shows up to gloat!
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Oct 4, 2015 21:41
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MisterBibs posted:I know this is a continuity sperg thing, but it bugged me since I just watched the respective episode (although I can't for the life of me remember which one): There's also the parking brake thing, but the previous time it was brought up was by River Song, iirc, so it's probably ignorable.
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Oct 4, 2015 21:55
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Looking forward to finding out what has Clara acting strange since her eagerness to get back into the action and overall behavior this episode clearly has the Doctor questioning. I'm just wondering if this will lead up to the reason why or how she leaves. Also, has anyone read the Doctor Who Facebook page lately? drat there's a lot of fans who want the sonic screwdriver back. He's a Time Lord, not a wand waving wizard, damnit.
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MisterBibs posted:I know this is a continuity sperg thing, but it bugged me since I just watched the respective episode (although I can't for the life of me remember which one): 8th: Not only do houses absorb psychic residue from violent deaths, if they get enough they become sentient themselves and begin craving more and more of it to sustain their lives.
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Oct 4, 2015 22:10
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Come to think of it, has the cloister bell been explained at all (at least beyond, "this is bad") in New Who? Or for that measure, at all since Logopolis? I can't recall any examples.
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Oct 4, 2015 22:19
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This episode could have been improved by an order of magnitude with one single thing. When they first arrive, Clara looks out into the sea and sees the faint glow of the Dead Doctor, but the live Doctor says 'Its probably a statue, come on'. That would have made the entire episode for me. happyhippy fucked around with this message at 22:24 on Oct 4, 2015 |
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Oct 4, 2015 22:21
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Random observation: did they have to use the original Star Trek phaser sound for the exploratory sub? Good episode. It felt old-school- slower pacing, but to it's benefit, characters had time to breathe and for the mystery to grow. Not a lot happened but it kept me drawn in with the mysteries and observations. And this has to be the most dialogue Capaldi has had in an episode yet. Loved the cue cards. Edit: not a fan of the "see it and you're now a transmitter" thing but all right. Does the Doctor realize that since he's now a transmitter, that hopping around space and time might cause a lot of unforeseen problems? NarkyBark fucked around with this message at 22:36 on Oct 4, 2015 |
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Oct 4, 2015 22:33
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The only thing that kept throwing me was how weird the shuttle looked. It really was a Star Trek shuttle thing, but with all of the innards removed so it was just a shell. It looked unfinished some how, though that may have just been what we got to see of it. Something is up with Clara in this episode, she's almost obnoxious at the start.
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Oct 4, 2015 22:50
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NarkyBark posted:Random observation: did they have to use the original Star Trek phaser sound for the exploratory sub? No no, you're able to be made into a transmitter by whatever's controlling the ghosts if you die.
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Oct 4, 2015 23:00
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I don't know if it's my computer, or Wiki's servers have gone nuts, but the Doctor Who Wiki (TARDIS.wiki) is redirecting to the My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic Wiki right now for some reason. 
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Oct 4, 2015 23:11
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Ofaloaf posted:I'm rather happy with the use of time travel to find the source of the problem. The Doctor's got a time machine, what's the point of having one if you don't ever use it as such in an episode? Mainly because this totally breaks an incredible number of stories! Usually some kind of "We're part of events now!"-esque excuse gets invented to explain why it's not possible to do this. And/or the TARDIS gets isolated from everybody else. I was honestly slightly surprised that this didn't happen this time around. Unrelatedly, have I missed something or is there no hyper-obvious recurring season-long arc thingy developing just yet?
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OldMemes posted:I don't know if it's my computer, or Wiki's servers have gone nuts, but the Doctor Who Wiki (TARDIS.wiki) is redirecting to the My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic Wiki right now for some reason. doctorhoofs.jpg
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Oct 4, 2015 23:14
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qntm posted:Mainly because this totally breaks an incredible number of stories! Usually some kind of "We're part of events now!"-esque excuse gets invented to explain why it's not possible to do this. And/or the TARDIS gets isolated from everybody else. I was honestly slightly surprised that this didn't happen this time around. I think the season arc is the confession dial.
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qntm posted:Mainly because this totally breaks an incredible number of stories! Usually some kind of "We're part of events now!"-esque excuse gets invented to explain why it's not possible to do this. And/or the TARDIS gets isolated from everybody else. I was honestly slightly surprised that this didn't happen this time around. He probably thinks it will be okay this time because he doesn't intend to interfere with events, merely observe them. No paradox there, unless something goes wrong.
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qntm posted:Mainly because this totally breaks an incredible number of stories! Usually some kind of "We're part of events now!"-esque excuse gets invented to explain why it's not possible to do this. And/or the TARDIS gets isolated from everybody else. I was honestly slightly surprised that this didn't happen this time around. Yeah, I was kind of against the idea (because then it becomes an easy bill and teds bogus journey solution to a lot of problems) but I think i'm okay with it in this particular case; he isnt going to the past to fix things, just to get information. He's going far back enough that he cant set up the cage and the key and the net and the gun because the base wont exist yet.
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qntm posted:Unrelatedly, have I missed something or is there no hyper-obvious recurring season-long arc thingy developing just yet? They spent too much time on that prophecy business about a half-Time Lord, half-Dalek for it to not pay off sometime down the road. But at any rate, they're not telegraphing the series arc like they did with Clara or Missy.
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SiKboy posted:Yeah, I was kind of against the idea (because then it becomes an easy bill and teds bogus journey solution to a lot of problems) but I think i'm okay with it in this particular case; he isnt going to the past to fix things, just to get information. He's going far back enough that he cant set up the cage and the key and the net and the gun because the base wont exist yet. I just hope there's someone he can go and have dinner with 
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Oct 5, 2015 00:05
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echoplex posted:I made these! When they pushed buttons, they lit up. Was that digital effects added afterwards?
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echoplex posted:I made these! The important question is, what do the rest of the cards say?
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I just got round to watching this and it was an absolute slam dunk hole-in-one. At the start I got a really heavy Fourth Doctor and Sarah Jane vibe with the Doctor's whole character and Clara's playful but intuitive part in things, and then I found out Whithouse wrote School Reunion too so it makes sense. He's really frigging good at writing Doctor Who imo. I love the way that using the TARDIS to go back bridges the two parts naturally, but there's a good in-story reason he can't just use it to rescue everyone. Stories where the Doctor having the ability to use the TARDIS actually figures into the plot are always satisfying if done well, for instance it happens in City of Death a bunch and didn't do that any harm. There were some likeable characters, it was scary, and base-under-siege will never get old as far as this cat is concerned. edit: also not only corridor-running, but actual tactical Scooby Doo corridor-running as a trap! Psybro fucked around with this message at 00:53 on Oct 5, 2015 |
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Psybro posted:Stories where the Doctor having the ability to use the TARDIS actually figures into the plot are always satisfying if done well, for instance it happens in City of Death a bunch and didn't do that any harm. Watched The Leisure Hive earlier, which makes a big song and dance about removing the randomiser fitted for Destiny of the Daleks. Of course The Leisure Hive happens a full series after Destiny of the Daleks while the incredible fine control of the TARDIS seen in City of Death happens the very next story. It just goes to show how worthless Doctor Who continuity is.
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Loved the episode to bits. One thing stuck out like a sore thumb to me though. The plan to trap the ghosts in the Faraday cage made no sense. Why would you need multiple people to have the ghosts follow them? Wouldn't a single person leading them to the cage be enough? It seems that the only reason the scene was written that way is to have the plan fail and ghosts split up. Which obviously they did. No sane person would brew a plan with such a glaring hole in it. Wouldn't somebody just ask "why do we need three people instead of just single bait?" Seemed like a very lazy way to write that scene to me.
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dark_archon posted:Loved the episode to bits. One thing stuck out like a sore thumb to me though. Yeah, that part frustrated me too. As soon as they said that was the plan, I was thinking "Wait, why are they splitting up, exactly? This seems like a terrible plan." and then, yup, of course it was.
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Oh thank goodness. I couldn't handle three bad episodes in a row. That was lovely. And the Doctor is totally in that box. Also this episode is even better if you imagine that it takes place on Pod Six.
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Rhyno posted:Also this episode is even better if you imagine that it takes place on Pod Six. Pod Six was jerks!
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qntm posted:Unrelatedly, have I missed something or is there no hyper-obvious recurring season-long arc thingy developing just yet? cargohills posted:I think the season arc is the confession dial. It will be interesting to see if the third story has anything about the Doctor dying. Story 1, he leaves behind his confession dial/is going to die. Story 2, his "ghost" shows up.
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I really love the idea of memetic virus's. Liked the episode. I just don't feel like Coleman is playing Clara as secretly traumatized as she should be.
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dark_archon posted:Loved the episode to bits. One thing stuck out like a sore thumb to me though. They couldn't just run into the Faraday cage because how would they get out without being killed? Therefore they had to play a game of sorts to confuse the ghosts so that they wouldn't notice that Clara is just the hologram.
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saucerman posted:They couldn't just run into the Faraday cage because how would they get out without being killed? Therefore they had to play a game of sorts to confuse the ghosts so that they wouldn't notice that Clara is just the hologram. Why not just do a switch-off with the hologram the exact same way you would do a switch-off with the other person? And like they did do with the hologram at the end?
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