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Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
RECOGNIZE HULK

Zeroisanumber posted:

You would lose your job, I would lose my job, and one of the central underpinnings of the global financial order would come crashing down bringing chaos.

The GOP fanatics who might pull the pin on that don't believe that it will do anything because they live in a world without consequence or something.

On the plus side, in the ashes of the world you could encourage the other scavengers to think about full communism now and they won't just laugh at your naivete. They'll probably shiv you for the canned goods you've collected, but they will agree that capitalism sure is a motherfucker.

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computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP

Gyges posted:

On the plus side, in the ashes of the world you could encourage the other scavengers to think about full communism now and they won't just laugh at your naivete. They'll probably shiv you for the canned goods you've collected, but they will agree that capitalism sure is a motherfucker.

No, it's obviously just proof that they should've defaulted earlier.

Hollismason
Jun 30, 2007
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Wouldn't economic collapse in Europe caused by the US Defaul impact Russia financially. Pretty sure Russia would turn full communism. They're main export is oil / natural gas correct? If the economy failed wouldn't that lead to either out of control oil prices or plummetting purchases of oil?

Islam is the Lite Rock FM
Jul 27, 2007

by exmarx

Gyges posted:

On the plus side, in the ashes of the world you could encourage the other scavengers to think about full communism now and they won't just laugh at your naivete. They'll probably shiv you for the canned goods you've collected, but they will agree that capitalism sure is a motherfucker.

If poo poo got this bad at least the guillotine would come back. Hopefully it's rusty and dull.

Boon
Jun 21, 2005

by R. Guyovich
At least the plummeting value of the dollar would mean that student loans would be easy to pay off. So there's that

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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"A debt default would bring about full communism" is the opposite end of the spectrum as "A debt default would be a good thing because it will force the government to be more fiscally responsible"

CommanderApaul
Aug 30, 2003

It's amazing their hands can support such awesome.

Sir Tonk posted:



Could they have chosen a less flattering photo of her? :pwn:

Looks like one of the puppets from Spitting Image.

She looks like an unpainted Jigsaw mask.

mr. mephistopheles
Dec 2, 2009


Because it would make a lot of people that are too comfortable really uncomfortable.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

mr. mephistopheles posted:

Because it would make a lot of people that are too comfortable really uncomfortable.

Howso? Do you believe the people against Carly are against her for the same reasons they are Hillary?

Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
RECOGNIZE HULK
Actually, now that I think about it, the global financial implosion that would likely result from a default wouldn't change anyone's mind. I'd just be surrounded by masses of people trying to scrap something together while bitching that this is all Obama's fault. If he hadn't spent so much in the first place we wouldn't be in this mess.

MC Nietzche
Oct 26, 2004

by exmarx
Obama would set his children on fire on the White House lawn, Game of Thrones style, before he actually allowed a default on the debt. The result of a default would be so catastrophic that even speculating about the impacts is pointless because we literally have no frame of reference or historical event to guide us. "The Great Depression" would not even come close.

Hulk Krogan
Mar 25, 2005



http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/05/us/politics/a-struggling-jeb-bush-may-lean-on-george-w-in-south-carolina.html

quote:

GREENVILLE, S.C. — With Jeb Bush struggling to connect with some Republican activists, his campaign has begun exploring whether to bring in the person it thinks may be best equipped to give him a boost with skeptical conservatives: his brother George W. Bush.

The 43rd president is a very popular figure among Republican voters and could deliver a needed jolt to his brother’s sluggish campaign.

Advisers to Jeb Bush in this crucial early primary state have asked national campaign officials in recent weeks to send in George Bush, 69, who so far has appeared only at private fund-raisers, to vouch for his younger brother on the campaign trail.

The request for reinforcement underlines the growing urgency that backers of Jeb Bush, the former Florida governor, feel as other candidates vault ahead of him by stirring the passions of the party’s base.

But the question of how to use the candidate’s older brother is an agonizing one for the campaign. While dispatching George Bush to a state like South Carolina could shore up his standing with conservatives, and remind voters there of a political family they still admire, it could also underscore the impression that Jeb Bush is simply a legacy candidate at a time when voters are itching for change

:getin:

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth
Yea like, if we default with a capital D then it's kinda just game over for like, everyone. We're all hosed, not in the 'I lost my savings in the crash' way but the 'nothing any of us owns means anything gently caress' way. It will not happen.

mr. mephistopheles
Dec 2, 2009

Tatum Girlparts posted:

Howso? Do you believe the people against Carly are against her for the same reasons they are Hillary?

Why are you making this into a weird thing.

E: It has nothing to do with who either candidate is or what they believe beyond belonging to a demographic group that will upset a lot of people as their only presidential option and there wouldn't be a plain white male candidate palate cleanser for them to use their vote on and they would probably cry a lot and I think that will be entertaining.

mr. mephistopheles fucked around with this message at 01:48 on Oct 5, 2015

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc

CommanderApaul posted:

She looks like an unpainted Jigsaw mask.

Good call, that was exactly the image I first though of but couldn't remember the source.

Doctor Butts
May 21, 2002

Edit: I was wrong nevermind.

Still, should just automatically raise the debt so Republicans can't keep holding the country hostage.

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc
But I can't run a deficit at my house, why should the government be allowed to?

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



Do it Jeb, you know you want to

Caros
May 14, 2008

FlamingLiberal posted:

Do it Jeb, you know you want to

He's his own man.

Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
RECOGNIZE HULK

I think Jeb! finally solidifying his grasp on the nomination by campaigning all over the place with his brother would be the perfect cap to this cycle. Let's see how successful the general election campaign of the GOP is when it's built around those Miss Me Yet billboards.

Sir Tonk posted:

But I can't run a deficit at my house, why should the government be allowed to?

*refinances mortgage and car loan while getting a new credit card and bitching about student loans*

Dolash
Oct 23, 2008

aNYWAY,
tHAT'S REALLY ALL THERE IS,
tO REPORT ON THE SUBJECT,
oF ME GETTING HURT,


Yeah, deploying Dubya is like the "lose the general to win the primary" move. This is what people are talking about when they say that even if an establishment candidate manages to limp to the nomination the likes of Trump will have done real damage. Not to mention that there's not even a guarantee that sending out George won't backfire, who knows what the base makes of his presidency now.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Dolash posted:

Yeah, deploying Dubya is like the "lose the general to win the primary" move. This is what people are talking about when they say that even if an establishment candidate manages to limp to the nomination the likes of Trump will have done real damage. Not to mention that there's not even a guarantee that sending out George won't backfire, who knows what the base makes of his presidency now.

Trump will make the base turn on Dubya by yelling about TARP.

Homura and Sickle
Apr 21, 2013

Dolash posted:

Not to mention that there's not even a guarantee that sending out George won't backfire, who knows what the base makes of his presidency now.

"And a CBS-New York Times survey found that, nationally, 71 percent of Republicans had a favorable view of the former president and only 10 percent said they viewed him unfavorably."

Don't misunderestimate mouth breathing GOP voters

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc

Gyges posted:

*refinances mortgage and car loan while getting a new credit card and bitching about student loans*

Jokes on you, I used all that credit to buy gold :smug:

Hollismason
Jun 30, 2007
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Wouldn't it be weird if we did have a economic collapse and Bitcoin became alternative fictional currency. Like Bitcoins being seen as a legitimate currency because of economic collapse would be loving weird.

Thump!
Nov 25, 2007

Look, fat, here's the fact, Kulak!



Hollismason posted:

Wouldn't it be weird if we did have a economic collapse and Bitcoin became alternative fictional currency. Like Bitcoins being seen as a legitimate currency because of economic collapse would be loving weird.

We'll have to do something about all the pegasuses flying around in this fantasy though. Do Stingers lock onto biological critters?

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

Hollismason posted:

Wouldn't it be weird if we did have a economic collapse and Bitcoin became alternative fictional currency. Like Bitcoins being seen as a legitimate currency because of economic collapse would be loving weird.

The weirdest part would be the entire internet and global power grids still running despite collapse of economies.

Islam is the Lite Rock FM
Jul 27, 2007

by exmarx

Thump! posted:

We'll have to do something about all the pegasuses flying around in this fantasy though. Do Stingers lock onto biological critters?

I'm sure they'll lock onto their rainbow farts. That much fart photon has to generate some heat.

esto es malo
Aug 3, 2006

Don't want to end up a cartoon

In a cartoon graveyard

Nintendo Kid posted:

The weirdest part would be the entire internet and global power grids still running despite collapse of economies.

Ronpaulbitcoinbills.jpg

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Somebody should tell the GOP that a default would result in a de facto student loan forgiveness so they refuse to let it happen

Hollismason
Jun 30, 2007
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So again the only way to really get your student loans forgiven is death or total financial collapse. Tell me more about student loan debt in the world of the apocalypse? How would that work and why would it work?

Nelson Mandingo
Mar 27, 2005





Holy poo poo this would be incredible because he would officially give up his campaign.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

Hollismason posted:

So again the only way to really get your student loans forgiven is death or total financial collapse. Tell me more about student loan debt in the world of the apocalypse? How would that work and why would it work?

You didn't have much in the way of possessions due to your crippling debt, so now you have nothing to barter with in the hellscape. You die.

Good Citizen
Aug 12, 2008

trump trump trump trump trump trump trump trump trump trump

Hollismason posted:

So again the only way to really get your student loans forgiven is death or total financial collapse. Tell me more about student loan debt in the world of the apocalypse? How would that work and why would it work?

It stays the same but now your job is performed by an unpaid intern if it still exists at all

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


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Morbid Hound

Nelson Mandingo posted:

Holy poo poo this would be incredible because he would officially give up his campaign.

"South Carolina is in the middle of a catastrophic, thousand-year-mark flooding disaster. Who better to lift up my sagging poll numbers there than the hero of Katrina?"

Hollismason
Jun 30, 2007
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I'm pretty sure most of the Republican Party actually believe Barack Obama was responsible for Katrina.

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Hollismason posted:

So again the only way to really get your student loans forgiven is death or total financial collapse. Tell me more about student loan debt in the world of the apocalypse? How would that work and why would it work?

I'm sure the student loan companies will weather a financial apocalypse just fine and not become instantly insolvent due to corrupt managing and almost none of their actual assets being tied up in things that don't actually exist even in a loose accounting sense.

Alternate answer: You lose your job and never find work again so you get deferrals until you die

Hollismason
Jun 30, 2007
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Why can't we just say "Redo" and then start again with all finances. I mean if everyone's hosed why not? Clear all debt off the books and start again.

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


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Morbid Hound

Hollismason posted:

Why can't we just say "Redo" and then start again with all finances. I mean if everyone's hosed why not? Clear all debt off the books and start again.

Well, that is the actual purpose of bankruptcy laws. How many lobbyists do you have?

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Rhesus Pieces
Jun 27, 2005

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

"South Carolina is in the middle of a catastrophic, thousand-year-mark flooding disaster. Who better to lift up my sagging poll numbers there than the hero of Katrina?"

lmao

How is Jeb so loving bad at this?

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