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Billy Gnosis posted:I guess, for me, it seems odd to be in the situation to own enough guns to be able to cover presumably multiple months of rents and still have guns leftover. I guess when I really think about it could be more common that I'd think. You know how regular nerds like to show off their exhaustive collection of anime and video games? There are also gun nerds who do the same thing with shotguns and poo poo.
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Billy Gnosis posted:I guess, for me, it seems odd to be in the situation to own enough guns to be able to cover presumably multiple months of rents and still have guns leftover. I guess when I really think about it could be more common that I'd think. When you own a few rifles worth 500 or more a piece, it doesn't take that many.
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Oct 5, 2015 05:40
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And firearms seem to retain their value very well. I seem to mostly sell my weapons at the price I bought them at.
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Oct 5, 2015 07:09
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Kalos posted:You know how regular nerds like to show off their exhaustive collection of anime and video games? There are also gun nerds who do the same thing with shotguns and poo poo. I don't know if I'll be more or less scared if I entered a Freeper's room and find this huge collection of anime posters and sculptures.
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Oct 5, 2015 10:12
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unwantedplatypus posted:Whenever I read about these preppers I can't help but think that most of them are going to die in their bunkers surrounded by stacks of ammo from some preventable disease or infection because septic pads and antibiotics aren't glamorous enough for them. I'd love to see a short story collection where it's typical post apocalyptic setup, Zombies, Superflu, Nuclear War etc. With archetypal tough guy heavily armed protagonists. Only every story ends with him randomly dying horribly from some totally preventable cause. Bonus points if it involves epic dysentry.
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Oct 5, 2015 11:48
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toanoradian posted:I don't know if I'll be more or less scared if I entered a Freeper's room and find this huge collection of anime posters and sculptures. It wouldn't be as bad as entering Lamastaz's room to find his collection of ponies and dead immigrant children.
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Oct 5, 2015 13:01
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toanoradian posted:I don't know if I'll be more or less scared if I entered a Freeper's room and find this huge collection of anime posters and sculptures. You'd probably be better off than a normal freeper, because instead of having a hail of bullets coming your way for violating castle doctrine, you'd just have to outrun his Hanzo steel.
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Oct 5, 2015 13:13
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How a 1965 law changed the faces of Americaquote:To be utterly frank: quote:Actually, there were more events in 1965 or thereabouts that changed America. The Civil Rights Act and many other related changes changed American culture profoundly in not always wonderful ways. quote:By 2055 the Democrat Party will have invented, like they did with Latinos and are doing with Arabs both groups which were always considered “white,” a whole bunch of previously unknown “minorities” which they can keep alienated with fabricated grievances from participating in the melting pot. It’s what leftwingers do. Trump: Middle East Would Be More Stable With Saddam Hussein and Gadhafi In Power Trump finds another fissure line in the Republican Party as Freepers argue about Iraq. quote:Absolutely true. The Christians there would also still be alive and we wouldn’t have the migration invasion. quote:In 2003, there was HUGE support for Bush and Operation Iraqi Freedom here at FR. quote:Trump is wrong on this. Hussein was responsible for the deaths of 1.3 million innocents. He used chemical weapons. He invaded Kuwait and burned the oil fields as he was forced out. He wanted a nuke and would have gotten it before Iran had he been just left alone. quote:Momentous events always look different when given time. I was hugely in support of the war. I truly believed that if Saddam didn't have a nuke he was working on one and the he had chemical weapons (he did) and that given a chance he'd supply them to terrorists. quote:“Hussein was responsible for the deaths of 1.3 million innocents” quote:I was a strong supporter of the Iraq war(s). And I was wrong. I did not know the mind of the arab, and most everyone there. You can’t bring sandy losers stuck in the dark ages into modern concepts of fredom. quote:Well, how many FReepers are now going to apologize to those other FReepers (a small number) who were OPPOSED to the invasion? These folks were flamed, shouted down and threatened with being banned. McCain:Airstrike on Afghan hospital was avoidable(The military hero strikes at our boys again) quote:And it seems to me that whenever anyone suggests that maybe the Federal budget could be trimmed a little, McCain jumps up and says: "How about Defense? Could we cut Defense? That would be great!" quote:We should have paid the North Vietnamese what they demanded to keep McCain forever. quote:You’re forgetting that Obama wants to be out of Afghanistan before he leaves office and he would benefit by hitting a hospital run by doctors without borders. The alternate reality that Freepers live in is like Scooby Doo, except the villain under the mask is always Obama. quote:IT'S TIME TO TREAT DOCTORS WITHOUT BORDERS AS A TERRORIST ORGANIZATION
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Oct 5, 2015 16:37
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Senate Immigration Subcommittee Illustrates How Immigration Will Outpace US Population Growth 7 to 1 Your daily reminder that liberals are the real racists. quote:To: Rockitz quote:To: Rockitz quote:To: GOPJ quote:To: Rockitz quote:To: Rockitz Did somebody say Ted Kennedy? quote:To: umgud quote:To: Rockitz quote:To: Rodamala --- How a 1965 law changed the faces of America quote:Government desperately needs new sources of revenue to prop up the failed socialist model implemented by Democrats. quote:To: ealgeone quote:To: 1010RD That was only eleven words, close but no cigar. quote:To: Jane Long If only there was some kind of pathway to citizenship or something. quote:To: 1010RD quote:To: 1010RD quote:To: T-Bone Texan quote:To: T-Bone Texan
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Oct 5, 2015 16:39
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quote:“Hussein was responsible for the deaths of 1.3 million innocents” ISIS are zombies? 
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Oct 5, 2015 16:51
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Kalos posted:You know how regular nerds like to show off their exhaustive collection of anime and video games? There are also gun nerds who do the same thing with shotguns and poo poo. Yeah, everyone I know that owns a firearm does this. It makes me worry they treat a firearm like an excited child treats a new toy but I trust that they are decent enough people to not misuse it is what I tell myself so I can sleep at night.
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Just because a blowhard like Trump says something true doesn't invalidate it. Lovely how the squabble and say that all Iraqis are ISIS and that Them Muzzies don't want freedom. The only thing that surprised me is that someone is still clinging to the idea that Saddam wanted nukes. The guy was ruthless but not stupid, he knew that if he built a nuke Israel might deploy one against him or the US would invade. He was grooming his sons to take power, not setting up his country for total destruction. SwitchbladeKult posted:Yeah, everyone I know that owns a firearm does this. It makes me worry they treat a firearm like an excited child treats a new toy but I trust that they are decent enough people to not misuse it is what I tell myself so I can sleep at night. The ones that have a practical use for firearms don't talk about it and know there's no benefit in telling everyone they meet, you probably have a few friends like that. Maybe one for CC, one for hunting, maybe a shotgun, different tools for different jobs as opposed to a kid in a candy store. It's the gun "collectors" that- almost without exception- have an M1 garand among their pile of thirty guns that worry me. Post 9-11 User fucked around with this message at 17:02 on Oct 5, 2015 |
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unwantedplatypus posted:Whenever I read about these preppers I can't help but think that most of them are going to die in their bunkers surrounded by stacks of ammo from some preventable disease or infection because septic pads and antibiotics aren't glamorous enough for them. You can get hungry anticipating the long-awaited race war: 
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Oct 5, 2015 16:59
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Jagged Jim posted:Senate Immigration Subcommittee Illustrates How Immigration Will Outpace US Population Growth 7 to 1 It fascinates me how much of modern anti-immigration rhetoric is completely unchanged from the 1920's, where terrible science was used to "prove" that the immigrant hordes of the 19th century were actually dangerous criminal scum ready to outbreed the "true" American populace, and the only possible way to stop it was to shut down the borders entirely and sterilize the "unfit" to make sure they didn't reproduce, but we don't talk about that much. Literally one hundred years later and people are still sure that the only good immigrants were in their grandpappy's generation, and all the non-whites are ravenous, anarchist hordes looking to get rid of American society - just like their grandpappy was saying about immigrants in his time and his grandpappy was saying about immigrants in his time and so on.
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Oct 5, 2015 17:23
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Freepers: The destruction of White America is the destruction of America, period.
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Oct 5, 2015 17:25
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Captain_Maclaine posted:You can get hungry anticipating the long-awaited race war: I always picture a little utopia going on outside this, utterly blissful that the weird racist is hiding in his bunker
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Shugojin posted:I always picture a little utopia going on outside this, utterly blissful that the weird racist is hiding in his bunker I think that was a New Twilight Zone episode.
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quote:By 2055 the Democrat Party will have invented, like they did with Latinos and are doing with Arabs both groups which were always considered “white,” a whole bunch of previously unknown “minorities” which they can keep alienated with fabricated grievances from participating in the melting pot. It’s what leftwingers do. This one is especially hilarious because there was a string of court challenges to various whites-only laws, especially immigration, on the bases that people like Latinos, Arabs, Native Americans and the Japanese were "white", and it was nativists who opposed that interpretation. Now those nativists are pining for when the glorious Aryan race encompassed all those noble savages I guess.
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Eschers Basement posted:It fascinates me how much of modern anti-immigration rhetoric is completely unchanged from the 1920's, where terrible science was used to "prove" that the immigrant hordes of the 19th century were actually dangerous criminal scum ready to outbreed the "true" American populace, and the only possible way to stop it was to shut down the borders entirely and sterilize the "unfit" to make sure they didn't reproduce, but we don't talk about that much. Hey, like the man said, three generations of imbeciles are enough Shugojin posted:I always picture a little utopia going on outside this, utterly blissful that the weird racist is hiding in his bunker Yeah it seems certain to me that the world outside is utterly oblivious of that guy's furious efforts to get ready for the end, and is just going about its everyday business.
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Post 9-11 User posted:Just because a blowhard like Trump says something true doesn't invalidate it. Lovely how the squabble and say that all Iraqis are ISIS and that Them Muzzies don't want freedom. What always angers me about people with these ignorant views is that way more Iraqis died fighting for their country against the militias and terrorists while I was there than Americans did. Not that it makes the whole fiasco any easy to stomach, but I hate people who sell the Iraqis short. They are, by and large, a generous, kind and wonderful people/culture.
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Bait and Swatch posted:What always angers me about people with these ignorant views is that way more Iraqis died fighting for their country against the militias and terrorists while I was there than Americans did. Not that it makes the whole fiasco any easy to stomach, but I hate people who sell the Iraqis short. They are, by and large, a generous, kind and wonderful people/culture. I want to add a ftfy by tacking on "but I wouldn't want my daughter to marry one," but I'm fairly sure that's not what you intended when you posted that. That's just what your post reminded me of. 
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Shugojin posted:I always picture a little utopia going on outside this, utterly blissful that the weird racist is hiding in his bunker Umm, doesn't banana bread mean a utopia by default?
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Klaus88 posted:I want to add a ftfy by tacking on "but I wouldn't want my daughter to marry one," but I'm fairly sure that's not what you intended when you posted that. That's just what your post reminded me of. I guess I can see how you could draw that conclusion, but it wasn't my intent or what I think, and it actually made me chuckle to myself because I felt an odd compulsion to start throwing out qualifiers. My comment was purely aimed at disputing the notion that Iraqis/Arabs/Muslims don't fight for their freedom, and I mentioned culture because that is what I study and I find Arab culture/history more fascinating than most. Also, since I can't resist being a stereotype, my daughter considers an Afghan (former Parlimentarian even) to be one of her grandpas and my sister-in-law is Pakistani.
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Eschers Basement posted:and sterilize the "unfit" to make sure they didn't reproduce, but we don't talk about that much. Not just the 1920s. There were states with forcible sterilization laws on the books into the 1970s, mostly of "the incurably criminal." Which mostly meant the mentally ill and black people.
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Cythereal posted:Not just the 1920s. There were states with forcible sterilization laws on the books into the 1970s, mostly of "the incurably criminal." Which mostly meant the mentally ill and black people. Yes, but even the ones still being used in the '50's through '70's were passed in the 1910's - 1920's. So we're both technically correct!
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Abner Cadaver II posted:This one is especially hilarious because there was a string of court challenges to various whites-only laws, especially immigration, on the bases that people like Latinos, Arabs, Native Americans and the Japanese were "white", and it was nativists who opposed that interpretation. Now those nativists are pining for when the glorious Aryan race encompassed all those noble savages I guess. We have always been at war with Eastasia
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quote:26 years old. 13 guns. quote:Well, how many FReepers are now going to apologize to those other FReepers (a small number) who were OPPOSED to the invasion? These folks were flamed, shouted down and threatened with being banned.  " "Stupid Libs, we NEED to invade Iraq!!" "I guess we were wrong " "Stupid Libs we NEED the Bush tax cuts!" "I guess we were wrong " "Stupid Libs ain't no such thing as global warming!"
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Duke Igthorn posted:Well, thank god he did stock up seeing as how hard handguns are to get now that they're banned!! 
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Eschers Basement posted:It fascinates me how much of modern anti-immigration rhetoric is completely unchanged from the 1920's, where terrible science was used to "prove" that the immigrant hordes of the 19th century were actually dangerous criminal scum ready to outbreed the "true" American populace, and the only possible way to stop it was to shut down the borders entirely and sterilize the "unfit" to make sure they didn't reproduce, but we don't talk about that much. The really interesting thing is that it transcends national boundaries. Like, literally right now in Europe you have "those drat
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deep space nein posted:"Glub glub glub" Blood for the glub glub
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Bait and Swatch posted:What always angers me about people with these ignorant views is that way more Iraqis died fighting for their country against the militias and terrorists while I was there than Americans did. Not that it makes the whole fiasco any easy to stomach, but I hate people who sell the Iraqis short. They are, by and large, a generous, kind and wonderful people/culture. It's the exact same attitude that says the French were helpless cowards in WWII and the brave Americans had to save them, completely ignoring the heroes of the French Resistance.
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Mantis42 posted:IT'S TIME TO TREAT DOCTORS WITHOUT BORDERS AS A TERRORIST ORGANIZATION
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And the media is saying pretty much brushing it aside.
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Jurgan posted:It's the exact same attitude that says the French were helpless cowards in WWII and the brave Americans had to save them, completely ignoring the heroes of the French Resistance. 
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Oct 6, 2015 05:48
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Huh, and I thought only our history classes were biased in this direction. I can see how the textbooks of all/most NATO countries would be geared towards marginalizing the Russian effort while focusing on those of the west.
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Bait and Swatch posted:Huh, and I thought only our history classes were biased in this direction. I can see how the textbooks of all/most NATO countries would be geared towards marginalizing the Russian effort while focusing on those of the west. I think it might be something similar to this; that since France didn't really defeat Germany and get their own "flag over the Reichstag" moment, the big triumphant moment from the French perspective would have been the liberation of Paris rather than Berlin falling to the Soviets, and so when asked "who contributed more to the defeat of Germany", to someone today their minds might go to "who kicked the Germans out of France" rather than what people who had just lived through the war were thinking which was "who actually forced Nazi Germany to surrender?". Basically, I don't think it is a NATO thing so much as a change in perspective from looking at the war as a historical event that ends basically when your nation is no longer involved* rather than living it and not seeing it as over until you finally get the all clear that the bad guys are all down and it's safe again. *(France did of course continue fighting well past the liberation of France and assisted in the US/UK invasion of Germany, but as mentioned before looking back on the war 60+ years later, the French contribution to the invasion of Germany was a much smaller part of the French war effort compared to the earlier resistance and liberation of France)
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DrProsek posted:I think it might be something similar to this; that since France didn't really defeat Germany and get their own "flag over the Reichstag" moment, the big triumphant moment from the French perspective would have been the liberation of Paris rather than Berlin falling to the Soviets, and so when asked "who contributed more to the defeat of Germany", to someone today their minds might go to "who kicked the Germans out of France" rather than what people who had just lived through the war were thinking which was "who actually forced Nazi Germany to surrender?". Basically, I don't think it is a NATO thing so much as a change in perspective from looking at the war as a historical event that ends basically when your nation is no longer involved* rather than living it and not seeing it as over until you finally get the all clear that the bad guys are all down and it's safe again. For obvious loving reasons like, "We need to reorganize our entire loving country and recover from a devstating multi-year occupation, so we kinda can't spare the resources to help invade Germany." I hate that loving "French surrender" meme, it is the worst loving meme. France has, historically, been the terror of Europe for far longer, and way more successfully then anything Ze Germans have ever managed.
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Klaus88 posted:France has, historically, been the terror of Europe for far longer, and way more successfully then anything Ze Germans have ever managed. Though again, historically a lot of that was to prevent the Germans from organizing.
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computer parts posted:Though again, historically a lot of that was to prevent the Germans from organizing. Pretty sure Greece would have been happy if they'd succeeded. 
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Klaus88 posted:For obvious loving reasons like, "We need to reorganize our entire loving country and recover from a devstating multi-year occupation, so we kinda can't spare the resources to help invade Germany."  yes, I know that, I wasn't implying otherwise. I was acknowledging that France did contribute some forces to the invasion of Germany, but that for reasons mentioned they couldn't contribute much compared to the US and UK much less the USSR and so the invasion of Germany didn't really involve France in the same way the resistance and liberation of France did.
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