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Oct 5, 2015 05:39
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After finishing the game up to mission 46, I'm most impressed by the fact that Kojima used, like, the very last important scene in the game ('what about him?") as the first scene in the first trailer to the game. He must have had a lot of fun putting together the trailers. One thing I'm curious about: in the Truth tapes, Zero is pricked by a pin which causes a long degeneration through the rest of the series. Right before this, Zero mentions the date (1941) and that a woman was moved by a man's sacrifice. Was this supposed to mean The Boss and The Sorrow? I know The Boss' unit was active during WWII and we don't hear much about The Sorrow after MGS3, so I'm just curious if this is fleshing out his relationship with The Boss.
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Oct 5, 2015 06:14
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Dream Attack posted:After finishing the game up to mission 46, I'm most impressed by the fact that Kojima used, like, the very last important scene in the game ('what about him?") as the first scene in the first trailer to the game. He must have had a lot of fun putting together the trailers. I believe so.
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Oct 5, 2015 06:16
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I'm not sure Sahelanthropus even really deliberately killed Skull Face. He was just sorta thrashing around on Eli/Mantis's orders and Skull Face ended up getting crushed by some debris. If Skull Face had just hid in a hole or something he'd have been fine.
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Oct 5, 2015 06:36
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That could even have been Mantis's own initiative. "Yep found a new best friend. You go squish now"
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Oct 5, 2015 06:38
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net cafe scandal posted:I believe so. E: I mean, I agree with you. I'd have a hard time thinking of someone else The Boss would regard that favorably. Though maybe it's the event that gets them together??? FilthyImp fucked around with this message at 07:09 on Oct 5, 2015 |
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Oct 5, 2015 06:55
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FilthyImp posted:Sorrow doesn't bite it until, like, 63 or something, when Boss and Sorrow end up on opposite sides of the Cold War. Oh, then idk.
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Oct 5, 2015 06:56
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net cafe scandal posted:I believe so. FilthyImp posted:Sorrow doesn't bite it until, like, 63 or something, when Boss and Sorrow end up on opposite sides of the Cold War. From what I remember, you're clearly able to see The Sorrow's corpse during the Virtuous Mission - right before you're about to get nuked. What surprises me most is that Volgin, The End and The Pain are all explained through parasites/mind control - but The Fury is left alone. I guess this means The Fury was just an angry dude? It's a shame since he was my favorite boss battle throughout the series!
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Oct 5, 2015 07:07
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FilthyImp posted:Sorrow doesn't bite it until, like, 63 or something, when Boss and Sorrow end up on opposite sides of the Cold War. Perhaps her mentor was involved an a similar situation to her, where they were a double agent pretending to work for the SS and they gave their life for world peace. Dream Attack posted:From what I remember, you're clearly able to see The Sorrow's corpse during the Virtuous Mission - right before you're about to get nuked. What? I thought that only the End's powers were retcon'd to be parasites
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Oct 5, 2015 07:14
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Broseph Brostar posted:What? I thought that only the End's powers were retcon'd to be parasites? During a mission in Chapter 2, Kaz (or Ocelot maybe, I forget) explains that The End had special powers but another Cobra Unit member could manipulate hormones to control insects via parasites.
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Oct 5, 2015 07:21
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Nakar posted:FOBs are such a solvable problem that people are now speedrunning them, and there ain't a drat thing anybody can do about it. Holy poo poo, I've been invaded by that guy before he got that down 
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Oct 5, 2015 07:30
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Dream Attack posted:From what I remember, you're clearly able to see The Sorrow's corpse during the Virtuous Mission - right before you're about to get nuked. The Fury's boss battle is great and has fantastic music. He doesn't really do anything supernatural when you fight him though, he's just an angry guy with a flamethrower and a jetpack (and then post-death he becomes a big flaming skull). e: I'm actually kind of disappointed that the Pain's backstory where he let hornets sting him a zillion times until they thought he was one of them has been partially retconned.
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Oct 5, 2015 07:31
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The Fury's boss battle was great, it was hide-and-seek against an indestructible-from-the-front juggernaut. It was a reprise and improvement on the idea behind the Vulcan Raven fight. (still bitter they never let you attempt to fight Fortune in hand-to-hand combat, I bet it would have worked...)
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Oct 5, 2015 07:32
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The Fury's power: he had a big flamethrower. In a way that makes him the coolest boss in MGS because he isn't some spiritual shaman, he isn't blessed by the wolves, he isn't genetically modified, he isn't a super-soldier, he's not a psychic, or a vampire, or pumped full of nano machines... He's just really mad.
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Oct 5, 2015 08:05
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What bullshit explanation did Kojima come up with for Vamp's ability to immobilize people by pining their shadows the ground with knives?
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Oct 5, 2015 08:07
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Colapops posted:The Fury's power: he had a big flamethrower. In a way that makes him the coolest boss in MGS because he isn't some spiritual shaman, he isn't blessed by the wolves, he isn't genetically modified, he isn't a super-soldier, he's not a psychic, or a vampire, or pumped full of nano machines... I really wish I had the patience to play through MGS3 again in subsistence. I hated that fight in the original because of the camera angles.
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Oct 5, 2015 08:08
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Castor Poe posted:What bullshit explanation did Kojima come up with for Vamp's ability to immobilize people by pining their shadows the ground with knives? He's a vampire. Or possibly Peter Pan. A Peter Panpire.
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Oct 5, 2015 08:08
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Castor Poe posted:What bullshit explanation did Kojima come up with for Vamp's ability to immobilize people by pining their shadows the ground with knives? Hypnosis was the ingame reason i think
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Oct 5, 2015 08:10
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Castor Poe posted:What bullshit explanation did Kojima come up with for Vamp's ability to immobilize people by pining their shadows the ground with knives? That was explained in MGS2 as some kind of hypnosis using light reflected off the blade IIRC?
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Oct 5, 2015 08:20
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Castor Poe posted:What bullshit explanation did Kojima come up with for Vamp's ability to immobilize people by pining their shadows the ground with knives? Belief
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Oct 5, 2015 08:22
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Yeah Bro posted:Belief Which is fine because, well, "your beliefs can warp your reality" was one of the themes of MGS2.
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Oct 5, 2015 08:32
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Colapops posted:The Fury's power: he had a big flamethrower. In a way that makes him the coolest boss in MGS because he isn't some spiritual shaman, he isn't blessed by the wolves, he isn't genetically modified, he isn't a super-soldier, he's not a psychic, or a vampire, or pumped full of nano machines... I'm cool with this, I know that not every boss needs to lay a foundation for the future games. Admittedly I was extremely impressed by the Salehanthrepous fight because of the mobility and animations of the robot ... even with that though it doesn't quite match up to the European Extreme version of the Fury!
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Oct 5, 2015 08:33
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Speedball posted:Which is fine because, well, "your beliefs can warp your reality" was one of the themes of MGS2. That was what I was getting at. But warp is the wrong word to use, they are the totality of our reality. The control of those beliefs is the true war zone of our era.
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Oct 5, 2015 10:05
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Nakar posted:FOBs are such a solvable problem that people are now speedrunning them, and there ain't a drat thing anybody can do about it.
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Oct 5, 2015 10:38
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Dream Attack posted:After finishing the game up to mission 46, I'm most impressed by the fact that Kojima used, like, the very last important scene in the game ('what about him?") as the first scene in the first trailer to the game. He must have had a lot of fun putting together the trailers. Yeah, this was really fun to go back and look at. I was actually in the room at GDC when he showed that trailer and I remember being confused by that, and also the text at the end when it flashed "FROM FOX, 2 PHANTOMS WERE BORN" and "V HAS COME TO." It's fun to think that Kojima was sitting a foot from all of us telling us the ending of a game 3 years away without us knowing!
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Oct 5, 2015 11:11
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Snak posted:He's a vampire. Or possibly Peter Pan. One of the few things I remember about MGS4 is that it completely ruined Vamp by revealing that he's not really Anime Dracula, but just a nano-machined up dude. ImpAtom posted:That was explained in MGS2 as some kind of hypnosis using light reflected off the blade IIRC? This actually sounds vaguely familiar. It's been too long since I played MGS2.
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Oct 5, 2015 11:21
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I bear Mission 46 yesterday and I think the ending was brilliant and a fitting end for the MGS franchise. I especially liked how it made Zero and The Patriots look less like cartoon villains and more like an organization that spiraled out of control due to hubris and idiocy.
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Oct 5, 2015 11:59
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Nakar posted:FOBs are such a solvable problem that people are now speedrunning them, and there ain't a drat thing anybody can do about it. I don't understand how he is able to complete it without an alert.
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Oct 5, 2015 13:57
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Is there other story stuff unlocked if you beat all 50 missions or can I go back to this game not dominating my free time?
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Oct 5, 2015 14:06
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I completed all side missions 
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Oct 5, 2015 14:33
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commy gun posted:Is there other story stuff unlocked if you beat all 50 missions or can I go back to this game not dominating my free time? barring something unlocking in the Oct. 6th patch, yes
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Oct 5, 2015 14:54
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Dream Attack posted:What surprises me most is that Volgin, The End and The Pain are all explained through parasites/mind control - but The Fury is left alone. I guess this means The Fury was just an angry dude? It's a shame since he was my favorite boss battle throughout the series! Volgin wasn't explained as parasites, it was only The End, The Pain and The Fear. The Sorrow is still pure supernatural, and yes The Fury is just a really angry dude.
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Oct 5, 2015 14:57
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As far as I know, that poo poo with Fortune near the end of MGS2 never got explained either. games a spooky as hell On the topic of explaining away extraordinary abilities, I want to be in the VA both with Troy Baker and watch him as he "explains" Psycho Mantis' powers. FutonForensic fucked around with this message at 15:05 on Oct 5, 2015 |
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Oct 5, 2015 14:59
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FutonForensic posted:As far as I know, that poo poo with Fortune near the end of MGS2 never got explained either. games a spooky as hell Wasn't it because she had a powerful magnet inside of her?
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Oct 5, 2015 15:18
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At this point I'm just going to assume she's Volgin's grand-daughter.
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Oct 5, 2015 15:20
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Blattdorf posted:Wasn't it because she had a powerful magnet inside of her? Yeah, but then Ocelot turns it off and she still manages to do it. I assume it was just some latent psychic ability she activated at the last moment.
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Oct 5, 2015 15:21
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Blattdorf posted:Wasn't it because she had a powerful magnet inside of her? She had an EM device that Liquid (or was it Solidus) snuck on her and made her think she had magical abilities, then took it away from her, only for her to prove she had THE POWER after all. CUTTING EDGE TECHNOLOGY!
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Oct 5, 2015 15:22
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Somebodys theory in one of the MGSV threads was that GW reactivated Fortune's EM field to save the lives of Solid and Raiden (both so that they could be utilized in the future and so that the S3 plan could be completed). Ocelot going loopy wasnt part of their exercise, and that missile attack would have killed everyone in the area.
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Oct 5, 2015 15:26
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I felt kind of stupid because it took me way too long to realize that Quiet was the lady at the very beginning of the game. When they reveal that she was an XOF member burned at the hospital I just thought it was during the whole Man on Fire thing.
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Oct 5, 2015 15:28
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net cafe scandal posted:Somebodys theory in one of the MGSV threads was that GW reactivated Fortune's EM field to save the lives of Solid and Raiden (both so that they could be utilized in the future and so that the S3 plan could be completed). Ocelot going loopy wasnt part of their exercise, and that missile attack would have killed everyone in the area. Does Ocelet give it back? Because he takes it from her, which is why she shoots at him and the bullets whiz around him.
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