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Dr. Arbitrary posted:It's always a HOA. Usually it's because you've got a neighborhood that has a fairly uniform look to it and then someone decides to paint their garage to look like a flag or put up a Car Dealership sized flagpole in their front yard. And, amusingly enough, HOA boards are generally chock-full of the type of hateful cryptofascist coffin dodger that posts images like that.
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:It's always a HOA. Usually it's because you've got a neighborhood that has a fairly uniform look to it and then someone decides to paint their garage to look like a flag or put up a Car Dealership sized flagpole in their front yard. Mo_Steel posted:Your response reminded me to lookup an old favorite:
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Defenestration posted:oh good point! HOAs are poo poo. Its a bit strawmanie but still makes a good point. Also, Lincoln didn't have the best record when it came to respecting the constitution. He ignored the supreme court, suspended the writ of habus corpus, and censored free press, along with ignoring the Supreme court when it suited him. Of course, there was a small thing going on called the American civil war at the time so... 
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Oct 5, 2015 04:03
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Mo_Steel posted:Your response reminded me to lookup an old favorite: Not that I have any stake in it but don't you think holding every gun owner in personally responsible for every mass shooting that happens is going a bit far?
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Oct 5, 2015 04:05
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Jabarto posted:Not that I have any stake in it but don't you think holding every gun owner in personally responsible for every mass shooting that happens is going a bit far? Walk me through that leap, ace.
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Oct 5, 2015 04:05
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Jabarto posted:Not that I have any stake in it but don't you think holding every gun owner in personally responsible for every mass shooting that happens is going a bit far? No, gently caress them.
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Oct 5, 2015 04:08
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TerminalSaint posted:Why I'm for the Brady Bill Considering armed black people compelled Reagan signed a bill prohibiting loaded weapons in public, seems like the best method of pursuing gun control is to have Muslims buy AR-15s and open carry whenever possible. Of course, that seems like it backfire in so many terrible shootings.
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Oct 5, 2015 04:10
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Tatum Girlparts posted:Walk me through that leap, ace. "Your side won. The occaisonal horrific massacre is just the price the rest of us has to pay" Not much of a leap. I don't see how this isn't holding anyone who owns a gun or opposes gun control culpable for whatever mass shootings arise.
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Oct 5, 2015 04:10
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Jabarto posted:"Your side won. The occaisonal horrific massacre is just the price the rest of us has to pay" His side wasn't 'people who shoot children' it's 'people who, when some rear end in a top hat shoots children, instantly go to 'DON'T TOUCH MY FUCKIN GUNS' instead of maybe having a talk'.
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Oct 5, 2015 04:13
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taiyoko posted:I don't remember seeing this idiocy posted here, or in the IOSM thread over on PYF: They might be technically right that the president didn't call for gun control, but oh boy did Republicans ever get mad about gun restrictions after that shooting. I'm pretty sure literally (not figuratively) every conservative source has a post about it.
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Oct 5, 2015 04:19
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taiyoko posted:I don't remember seeing this idiocy posted here, or in the IOSM thread over on PYF: Obama did a thing I SUPER HATE Why didn't he DO IT SOONER?
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Oct 5, 2015 04:34
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Jabarto posted:Not that I have any stake in it but don't you think holding every gun owner in personally responsible for every mass shooting that happens is going a bit far? I read it more as a knock-on effect; the intent of gun rights supporters isn't mass shootings or gun violence generally, but that's a price we deal with in society as a result. In much the same way, availability of alcohol isn't with the intent of causing more drunk driving fatalities or drunken violence, but that's one of the results. You could even approach the subject in somewhat similar manner; one option is to restrict or ban certain types of alcohol or use of alcohol in certain places, or to better enforce laws on drunk driving, or to use technology to reduce incidents of drunk driving, or to provide increased funding to alcohol abuse rehabilitation programs / sober ride services, or to encourage responsible alcohol consumption, etc. Similarly there are many things we could do regarding firearms; we could restrict handgun availability, ban sales of firearms except by approved, registered vendors; maintain a database of firearm ownership to help track the flow of illegally obtained weapons; improve funding for firearm safety training and mental health issues to reduce accidental and suicidal gun deaths; fund studies towards getting a better understanding of domestic firearm violence as a health issue, improve poverty-related programs and make efforts to reduce gang activity to reduce firearm fatalities, etc. Lots of those things lots of people would find reasonable. But they typically go nowhere politically because the word "gun" is toxic to most elected officials chances of being re-elected (or they're convinced that's the case), so our gun deaths are the price we pay for doing nothing. Mo_Steel fucked around with this message at 05:17 on Oct 5, 2015 |
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Oct 5, 2015 05:15
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Hey it's this old small government plan again.  
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Oct 5, 2015 05:17
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Defenestration posted:Obama did a thing I SUPER HATE On another note, please stop posting so much from Extremely Pissed Off Right-Wingers. You're only going to become Fulcrum #2 doing that. 
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Oct 5, 2015 05:19
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Replace "muslims" with "jews" in this bowl of M&Ms analogy. 
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Oct 5, 2015 05:19
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Mo_Steel posted:Replace "muslims" with "jews" in this bowl of M&Ms analogy. You could just apply this to any 'Other' group and justify your hatred. It's a bullshit analogy.
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Oct 5, 2015 05:21
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I saw this exact example used with rape statistics on college campuses.
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Oct 5, 2015 05:24
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I actually heard that 10% bullshit from a fairly smart acquaintance of mine. He also pulled the "notice they're going to country with good social benefits" to which I replied "yeah, wouldn't you do the same for your family in their position?". He conceded that particular point. Lemme tell you about a little company called Microsoft... Jabarto posted:Not that I have any stake in it but don't you think holding every gun owner in personally responsible for every mass shooting that happens is going a bit far? Like the others have said, the comic is not going after responsible gun owners. They're aiming for the people who make anti-gun control macros like the ones in this thread. The sort of people who believe that putting any sort of restraint on guns is literally the end of America as we know it. 2nd amendment triumphs over all, statistics and proven facts be damned. quote:This is particularly  because look at the "give schools guns!" reactions from the other macros posted here.quote:Was this the deal where the US drops trade sanctions in exchange of restricting nuclear research in Iran? Pretty heavily at that?
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Oct 5, 2015 05:33
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Defenestration posted:
The grammatical construction of this bugs me. "I don't always hope there's a gun massacre, but when I do [hope that there's a gun massacre], I use it to push gun control" that doesn't mean any such massacre actually occurred, only that you thought about it!
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Oct 5, 2015 05:42
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Twelve by Pies posted:Usually my aunt is pretty quiet on Facebook but every so often she'll share something crazy. Is 1.4 billion the White House's annual budget or something?
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Oct 5, 2015 05:46
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borkencode posted:Hey it's this old small government plan again. At 3 per school, if we paid them (average) $30k a year in salary with no benefits it'd only cost us $8.85bn a year (as of 2012). Of course, when you add benefits, payroll taxes, HR/administrative expenses, uniforms and supplies you are talking closer to $15Bn per year. I mean sure, you could almost double NASA's budget, but this sounds like one of those common sense plans that I hear always works out so well!
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Oct 5, 2015 06:14
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Honestly, I'd be in favor of a program to put newly separated members of the military into schools for all sorts of miscellaneous ways, playing with the kids, helping out in the library, anything but giving them a gun.
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Oct 5, 2015 06:40
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I'd even be fine with giving them the gun and posting them to schools if that's the only way we can get them jobs with good pay, benefits, and counseling and treatment for any PTSD or difficulties adjusting to civilian life. poo poo yeah let's do this, I mean I know it will never happen because it costs money and conservatives will fight it and say our boys would rather work for patriotism than cash and health care but still.
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^^^ I personally wouldn't want ptsd veterans given guns and posted outside schoolsRick_Hunter posted:On another note, please stop posting so much from Extremely Pissed Off Right-Wingers. You're only going to become Fulcrum #2 doing that. Defenestration fucked around with this message at 13:19 on Oct 5, 2015 |
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You'd certainly need to give them all full psychiatric screening first. The last thing you want is Private Jeff, who did two tours in Iraq, hearing a door slam and suddenly having flashbacks to Fallujah.
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borkencode posted:Hey it's this old small government plan again. Just realized: "unemployeed"
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Defenestration posted:Just realized: "unemployeed" unempolyeed.
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I'll tell you who is getting a big boost from these mass shooting: Comedian Jim Jerffries. I've seen his Gun Control bit posted about 30 times in the last couple days. It's hilarious. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awgs0burFTk Also this keeps popping up: Every Mass Shooting in the US Since the 1950s Except Two Occurred in Gun Free Zones SO signs banning guns is the problem guys. Case closed.
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borkencode posted:Hey it's this old small government plan again. "Don't worry, our school is guarded by a homeless vet with untreated combat related PTSD."
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Dirt posted:Also this keeps popping up: The guys who go in and shoot up a school and then shoot themselves only target gun free zones because they're afraid of getting shot.
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Dirt posted:Also this keeps popping up: This is such a poo poo article. No link to the actual research, and from the sounds of it, he came up with some mathematical model and that's the end of it.
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BUBBA GAY DUDLEY posted:The guys who go in and shoot up a school and then shoot themselves only target gun free zones because they're afraid of getting shot. Yet all the good guy with gun types harp on gun-free zones being shooting galleries for villains but are SO DEDICATED to "good guy" status that they wouldn't dream of going into one armed anyway.
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Buzkashi posted:Yet all the good guy with gun types harp on gun-free zones being shooting galleries for villains but are SO DEDICATED to "good guy" status that they wouldn't dream of going into one armed anyway. These two good guys with guns were about to go in and save the day but there was a sign.
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Oct 5, 2015 15:53
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Giving guns to PTSD addled vets is a sure fire solution, just ask Chris Kyle.
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Oct 5, 2015 16:03
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I wouldn't eat a handful of Muslims either so good point I guess. Edit: Also "You say not all Muslims are monsters" like thats some crazy claim.
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Oct 5, 2015 16:09
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il_cornuto posted:I wouldn't eat a handful of Muslims either so good point I guess. Also with the figures and percentages it's more like "one or two of them is poisoned and also happens to be halfway across the planet. DO YOU EAT A HANDFUL?"
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Oct 5, 2015 16:22
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There's 1.6 billion muslims in the world. If 10% of them were terrorists, they'd make an army 160 million strong, and would have overrun Europe, China and Russia already. So it's not so much that you'd have the option of eating a handful of M&Ms as they'd be forcing themselves down your throat until you choked to death.
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Oct 5, 2015 16:24
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SSNeoman posted:
Obama didn't immediately bomb them back to the Stone Age, which is basically the same as handing them a nuclear weapon.
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I don't know where they get that 10%. The highest prediction of ISIS members is 200,000, which is roughly 0.01% of Muslims worldwide. Al-Qaeda has less than 100 thousand, so it is still far away from 10%.
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Jurgan posted:Obama didn't immediately bomb them back to the Stone Age, which is basically the same as handing them a nuclear weapon. Under the Obama deal, over the next decade, it's predicted that they'll be ten years closer to having a nuclear bomb
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