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I guess this is the right thread for it, but Japan finally has a name for their Super Rugby team, the Sunwolves. Thoughts? http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/72724796/japanese-super-rugby-team-to-be-called-the-sunwolves
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Oct 5, 2015 10:44
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Not that I know of. No coach either as far as I can tell.
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Oct 5, 2015 10:46
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Hooper cited. http://goo.gl/FcjrI7.
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Oct 5, 2015 11:03
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butros posted:Hooper cited. I thought he was lucky not be yellow carded at the time, so not surprised by that. Can't see it being enough to rule him out of Saturday's game though, which is good: I really just want to see him play.
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Oct 5, 2015 11:45
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fallingdownjoe posted:I thought he was lucky not be yellow carded at the time, so not surprised by that. Can't see it being enough to rule him out of Saturday's game though, which is good: I really just want to see him play. Maybe he'll just get a warning like Tom Wood (for the kick to Liam Williams) and Sam Burgess (for his high tackle) received?
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Oct 5, 2015 13:10
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stavros880 posted:Maybe he'll just get a warning like Tom Wood (for the kick to Liam Williams) and Sam Burgess (for his high tackle) received? The northern hemisphere needs revenge for Australia making them look dumb
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Oct 5, 2015 13:15
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Byolante posted:The northern hemisphere needs revenge for Australia making them look dumb To be fair, the citing commissioner is from New Zealand, so it's not just northern hemisphere sour grapes. Also, Australia haven't made Wales look dumb so far this year. That happens on Saturday 
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Oct 5, 2015 13:29
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Byolante posted:The northern hemisphere needs revenge for Australia making them look dumb Please don't make the same mistake as the English media and assume that all northern hemisphere sides and supporters are behind England. There are plenty of us who are more than happy that the wheels fell off that drat chariot so quickly.
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HappyCamperGL posted:Have they actually got any players yet? I would be very surprised if one of them is not named Ayumu Goromaru
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Oct 5, 2015 13:57
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stavros880 posted:Maybe he'll just get a warning like Tom Wood (for the kick to Liam Williams) and Sam Burgess (for his high tackle) received? I'd be surprised if it wasn't: I don't think it was any worse than either of them, and less than the Nadolo Suplex.
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Oct 5, 2015 14:22
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Apollodorus posted:I would be very surprised if one of them is not named Ayumu Goromaru
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Oct 5, 2015 14:31
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Is he being poached?
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Oct 5, 2015 14:39
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Byolante posted:The northern hemisphere needs revenge for Australia making them look dumb Lol much the opposite
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Oct 5, 2015 14:52
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Frazzbo posted:Please don't make the same mistake as the English media and assume that all northern hemisphere sides and supporters are behind England. There are plenty of us who are more than happy that the wheels fell off that drat chariot so quickly. Everyone hates us. We get it. Don't worry
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julian assflange posted:Lol much the opposite
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Oct 5, 2015 15:08
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When it rains it pours.... http://www.espn.co.uk/rugby/story/_...efeat-australia quote:World Rugby is investigating England's coaching staff for a breach of rules during Saturday's defeat to Australia. lol
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Oct 5, 2015 15:12
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Byolante posted:The northern hemisphere needs revenge for Australia making them look dumb northern hemisphere supremacy
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Oct 5, 2015 16:31
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BabyFur Denny posted:I can definitely assure you that at least one of them will not be named Ayumu Goromaru. Prepare to be surprised. My guess would be a big French club?
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Painkiller posted:When it rains it pours.... Hmmm. Has to have been Rowntree and Farrell? Stephen Jones has went into full Lord Bald overdrive in the times, it's hilarious and glorious, do read it. Highlights: quote:Many people still have no idea how special a man Woodward is and it would be no exaggeration to say that England’s ghastly reluctance to honour him and to recognise his matchless achievements has cost them up to three World Cups and a great deal of their global standing That doesn't even deserve words. quote:great players usually kept in the realms of outer darkness — Messrs Cipriani, Attwood, Delon and Steffon Armitage, James Haskell, Luther Burrell, Alex Goode Cipriani???! Haskell??  I remember him recently bumbling around super rugby like some twerp fresh out a gym who didn't have a clue where to put his head in, what/where/when the breakdown was, and was genuinely afraid of taking a hit. Let's not even talk about his supposed ball skills. The man's a conditioning coach, not a rugby player.quote:Lancaster, like every coach in every era, promised a bold England style, playing to an overall structure but then with the players given licence to leap off and use their talents and individual judgments to attack. This is true, but actually avoids addressing what made England successful in the past - the rules that allowed their old structures to be so dominant have changed, and England haven't. Meanwhile, they've tried to play SH rugby in the backs without any of the flair or ball handling skills that would allow them to do so. Complaining about under/over coached backs is pointless - they haven't got the cattle for the pens they're trying to fill. England revert to boring rugby when they're successful because it is what makes them successful (ie. it is low-skill based), but because they haven't adjusted to post-2003 rule changes, they're nowhere near as good at it as they once were. quote:if the best player in England is 40 years old, they should pick him But what if he plays for Toulon? Or just retired from Toulon??? Jonny!!!!? quote:But a few drinks? A late-night escapade or two? A blast in the press that was not media-managed? Those are surely the small price you pay for men of character, colour, authority and individuality. Big lumps of white never did Dallaglio any harm. Remember folks, ENGLAND EXPECTS.
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Lmao yeah cause Woodward's Blairite management techniques and the inclusion of Danny Cipriani and the Armitage bro's would've fixed everything. Across football rugby and cricket England have failed to get through the groups in 3 World Cups. Maybe Ser Clive can coach all 3 teams at once? Imagine the winning he'd do!
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Oct 5, 2015 18:43
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All 3 sports invented by England, btw.goatface posted:Is he being poached? Vaders Jester posted:My guess would be a big French club? No, he was just making fun of me for writing the sentence backwards. I was saying, I would be surprised if Ayumu Goromaru is not included in the Sunwolves But now I can't help wondering if he might actually be poached by a French club, like how in the US we hire away the best baseballers from Japan.
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Oct 5, 2015 19:13
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Yeah, if Goromaru isn't in the new Sunwolves (great name) team then he's going to get offered a big contract from someone and it's usually the French that have the cash to throw around.
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Oct 5, 2015 19:20
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Japanese teams pay loads, don't they? I imagine a French team would need to throw an awful lot of money if that's all they can offer.
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Oct 5, 2015 19:31
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Goromaru is a hell of a player
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Oct 5, 2015 19:33
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HappyCamperGL posted:Have they actually got any players yet? The JRFU submitted a prospective list of players just before the deadline a couple of months ago, but it's basically going to be a mostly Japanese Top League all-stars team, with a small number of Japan-based foreign players, so presumably the likes of Nick Cummins, Liam Messam, Heinrich Brussow, Fourie du Preez and Richard Kahui. goatface posted:Japanese teams pay loads, don't they? I imagine a French team would need to throw an awful lot of money if that's all they can offer. Depends on the team, but the likes of Suntory, Panasonic and Toyota are paying silly money. For example, Sonny Bill Williams was paid 7 figures to play one season with Panasonic a couple of years ago. The competition is relatively short as well, only running from 3 to 4 months a year (the upcoming season will run from the 13th of November this year and ends on the 24th of January next year). It is basically ideal for players like Richard Kahui, who are very injury-prone, and it helped Jerome Kaino as a player, as his two years in Japan with Toyota allowed him the downtime to get over various injuries he was carrying and get some playing time in.
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goatface posted:Japanese teams pay loads, don't they? I imagine a French team would need to throw an awful lot of money if that's all they can offer. I assume on top of the money they can offer, a chance to play with a top European club like Toulon is a huge draw for some players.
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The Clit Avoider posted:Hmmm. Has to have been Rowntree and Farrell? Doesn't mention that he dislikes rugby league so not the "Full Jones"
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The Clit Avoider posted:Cipriani???! Haskell?? Nothing makes a player world class like non selection.
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Painkiller posted:Nothing makes a player world class like non selection. That's an awesome phrase. I've got to say, until the end of the six nations England looked like they had an outside chance of winning (remote! but still possible). After the warmup games I was under no illusions; the pack was the most important part of England's wins over the last four years and they were beasted by France twice. I'd love to know what they did differently over the summer; whatever it was it'll be useful for other coaches to avoid. As for selections, I think it was a combination of factors; some selections were questionable, but when compared against what they replaced became egregious. Burrell was never fantastic, but picking Burgess ahead of him was insane. Then you get into the team selections: not giving Slade a run-out despite being the best centre in the warm-ups, dropping Ford despite him being the lynchpin for the past year, Burgess on the bench despite Nowell being able to cover 12-15, Baritt in the game when tries are needed, Farrell being shunted to 12 where he's worse than a lock-forward..... Lancaster should resign, but I think the RFU will have to sack him. Considering he's contracted for five more years I'd expect him to hold on for the payout. Incidentally, why do contracts get renewed before career defining competitions? The same thing happened with Eddie O'Sullivan. Plucky Brit fucked around with this message at 00:43 on Oct 6, 2015 |
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I expect Lancaster to turn up tot he next press conference in a kilt with full blue facepaint and declare that he was a Scottish plant all the time.
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Oct 6, 2015 01:23
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I don't even know if they'll fire him.
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goatface posted:Japanese teams pay loads, don't they? I imagine a French team would need to throw an awful lot of money if that's all they can offer. Kind of beaten, but yeah, they do. However, it's important to remember that Top League teams are directly owned but massive corporations with very deep pockets. I don't know what the ownership situation is like with the Sunwolves, but it could be quite different so there might not be as much money available.
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Plucky Brit posted:That's an awesome phrase. Apparently there are some break clauses in the contract so they'll not be on the hook for the full five years, just one or two. I think he'll walk. Won't matter so long as Andrew and that other guy keep hiring morons and excluding the best players.
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Oct 6, 2015 08:35
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I wonder what the over/under is on Farrell moving upto Number 1?
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Oct 6, 2015 09:13
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Oh my loving God he's starting with the Ford Farrell 10-12 partnership against Uruguay.
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Oct 6, 2015 12:32
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Is that a 'not allowed to play' suspension, or a 'not allowed to play and train with the side or any other side' suspension?
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Oct 6, 2015 13:28
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hitchensgoespop posted:I wonder what the over/under is on Farrell moving upto Number 1? 7!
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goatface posted:Is that a 'not allowed to play' suspension, or a 'not allowed to play and train with the side or any other side' suspension? I went to check the rules, and it isn't actually specified. However, I was delighted to discover that over a quarter of the entire Rugby World Cup Rulebook is dedicated to in-depth instructions on how to hold a Penalty Kick contest : http://www.rugbyworldcup.com/tournament-rules It's much less interesting than the Heineken Cup ruleset :{
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