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If only he'd just used the usual Imperial fascist insignia instead of that. Edit: Sorry for the top-of-page non-content. As penance, here's a picture of some terrible Ultramarines painted by me in the late '90s. (Picture quality is terrible too, sorry)  Decorus fucked around with this message at 20:58 on Oct 4, 2015 |
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Instead he's using such world renowned fascist signs like stahlhelms. Poor Hetzer's gonna hetz no more 
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Oct 4, 2015 20:47
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It's obviously a Hetzork
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Oct 4, 2015 20:50
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spectralent posted:Yep! Stormboys were british fascist hooligans, i.e. still violent thugs but like doing "shows of force" by marching and wearing "uniform". This was in contrast to the rest of the orks, who were based on football hooligans in general and were just violent lunatics. They also had a very Nazi look about them, but were smart enough not to put swastikas or SS icons on them like the army on the last page:  There's also artwork of goose stepping stormboyz back in Waaagh! The Orks or Rogue Trader but I can't find it right now.
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Oct 4, 2015 21:10
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I've never actually seen the models but I have seen that picture. I do love how much of the original GW stuff was a reaction to british public life at the time, though. Modern GW is nowhere near that perceptive 
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Oct 4, 2015 21:31
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JcDent posted:Instead he's using such world renowned fascist signs like stahlhelms. Those are all official Citaldel Orks.
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Oct 4, 2015 21:47
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I think he means the sigils painted on the shoulders - rather than the helmet on the mini
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Oct 4, 2015 21:52
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Oct 4, 2015 22:16
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The thing is, when those where made, it was clear that they where Very much tongue-in-cheek, and no one took them seriously. Kinda like playing the bad guys in Wolfenstein-online.... it's only since GW lost there sense of humor that grogs have got away with stuff like the Nazi guard
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Oct 4, 2015 22:25
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Moola posted:SOMEONE DOESNT KNOW HIS ORK LORE ! God I love you. SRM posted:They also had a very Nazi look about them, but were smart enough not to put swastikas or SS icons on them like the army on the last page: Not to be 'that jew' but lightning bolts are SS icons. The SA forum is great at thinking it's holier-than-thou at recognizing symbols of nightmarish bullshit ethoses, but then bad at actually knowing what constitutes the symbols for it. Like the iron cross is german, but not nazi. Lightning bolts are totally nazi. The hatchet is not nazi. Blah blah. In any case, orks are weird monster people, so that's a whole other layer of crap that you suspend your disbelief to ignore. It's still a little hosed up if you take it even a tiny bit seriously. The part that made the stormboyz fun was that orks are so chaotic that rebellion for a young ork means being fascist. That's kind of delightful. But if you overthink it, it will definitely get creepy. I don't think it is any more *or* less creepy with or without swastikas. But that's just my opinion as a life-long target of white supremacist hatred. Or whatever. Nobody has ever actually treated me badly, yet. But I carry a torch for my ancestors. Because if you care about your culture, you have a duty to  These and other unsolicited opinions are yours to have when you don't put me on ignore. TheCosmicMuffet fucked around with this message at 22:49 on Oct 4, 2015 |
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Oct 4, 2015 22:41
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Actually, the SS runes are these things: They're a fairly specific style of lightning bolt, together, to make an "SS" symbol. Though the ork lightning bolts are definitely there to evoke the image.
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Oct 4, 2015 22:59
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Less Nazi chat please
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Oct 4, 2015 23:08
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A lot of military units use lightning bolts dude
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Oct 4, 2015 23:08
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I misread the room.  And there's more! http://darksondesigns.proboards.com/thread/2357/sephis-nazis-paint-blog-rambling (make sure you get to page 2 for the Hitler-Terminator)
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Oct 4, 2015 23:19
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Yeah that's the good poo poo. And by the good poo poo, I mean what the gently caress is wrong with these people.
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Oct 4, 2015 23:22
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Aren't there actual Nazi figs they could be painting, why do they have to kitbash innocent orcs?
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Oct 4, 2015 23:45
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Because they're not real nazis, like those people who play historical wargames, they just like the aesthetic...
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Decorus posted:As penance, here's a picture of some terrible Ultramarines painted by me in the late '90s. (Picture quality is terrible too, sorry) For the record; these are certainly amateur-level but I'd never snark at them no matter how old/experienced the painter was; if someone showed up to play with an entire army that was actually finished and painted, even at this level, rock on bro. They're certainly not the melty abominations that this thread usually shows.
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goatface posted:Because they're not real nazis, like those people who play historical wargames, they just like the aesthetic... It's doubly funny since I know a guy who germans in FoW but he's crazy anti-fash. But then he tends to be actively depressing to be around, so he's not much fun to play either.
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goatface posted:Because they're not real nazis, like those people who play historical wargames, they just like the aesthetic... So the only good reason to play WWII germans is that someone else have someone to shoot at, or because you think their rules are minmaxable? Because I dig the gently caress the out of most German WWII machines they had the most rad uniforms, practicality aside.
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TheCosmicMuffet posted:(make sure you get to page 2 for the Hitler-Terminator)  E: ADOLF
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JcDent posted:So the only good reason to play WWII germans is that someone else have someone to shoot at, or because you think their rules are minmaxable? We've already had this derail, go back and read the first few pages of the thread.
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WINNERSH TRIANGLE posted:
Wolfenstein TNO sequel confirmed! ro5s posted:We've already had this derail, go back and read the first few pages of the thread. And it will happen again, I'm sure. EDIT: And God-drat it, he's not making a Nazi chapter of Marines, but Nazis for a pulp-horror-mystical WWII game JcDent fucked around with this message at 12:10 on Oct 5, 2015 |
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Oct 5, 2015 12:02
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That game seems like it has some pretty good unspiration material.
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Oct 5, 2015 14:14
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That seems like a good way to get your tits burned off.
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Oct 5, 2015 14:38
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The black bar is covering up the hideous burn damage.
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JcDent posted:Wolfenstein TNO sequel confirmed! Oh. Wolfenstein was p. fun, I'm glad there wasn't anything- ExtraCheese posted:That game seems like it has some pretty good unspiration material. 
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ExtraCheese posted:That game seems like it has some pretty good unspiration material. To contribute, Pulp Figures makes some rather specific miniature sets:  Sadly the site's line of Yellow Peril miniatures seems to be not available at the moment...
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ExtraCheese posted:That game seems like it has some pretty good unspiration material. At least with some of the other titty stuff that gets posted here you can say they were technically good sculpts. This one just looks like a female Kermit with tits.
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Oct 5, 2015 20:26
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that is a real lovely model
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Oct 5, 2015 20:46
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WINNERSH TRIANGLE posted:
i'm sorry bot this owns in a Wallenstein kinda of way
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ExtraCheese posted:That game seems like it has some pretty good unspiration material. Of course she is holding a riding crop. God help me I almost like the Adolfminator. It is just so ridiculous, if I pretend it is a one off and not part of a themed army I could dismiss it as Iron Skies style comedy/satire.
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I know most stuff in that nature comes with a more-than-creepy factor attached, but that guy specifically references Wolfenstein as his inspiration so much, I'm inclined to take it as a serious effort to replicate the Wolfenstein feel of pulpy Nazi tech/occultism. It probably doesn't hurt that I rate Wolfenstein: TNO and TOB as two of the best games I've played in recent years.
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Pyrolocutus posted:I know most stuff in that nature comes with a more-than-creepy factor attached, but that guy specifically references Wolfenstein as his inspiration so much, I'm inclined to take it as a serious effort to replicate the Wolfenstein feel of pulpy Nazi tech/occultism. And it's for a game with skeleton SS knights and Nazi cyborg gorillas.
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Pyrolocutus posted:I know most stuff in that nature comes with a more-than-creepy factor attached, but that guy specifically references Wolfenstein as his inspiration so much, I'm inclined to take it as a serious effort to replicate the Wolfenstein feel of pulpy Nazi tech/occultism. Yeah, I loved those games and I've played a number of Weird War 2 pulp games at conventions. I love Hitlernator because it's so ridiculous and actually competently pulled off, and since it's not part of an honest to god Nazi Space Marines army or something reprehensible like that. That balloon headed topless she-wolf of the SS up there is pretty dreadful though, as are the fairly serious looking SS Orks.
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Yeah, Wolfenstein-style minis is actually okay imo. The issue is closet nazis trying to insert their terrible fetishes into games; things in the spirit of pulp fiction nazis-as-orcs stuff is probably fairer.
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spectralent posted:Yeah, Wolfenstein-style minis is actually okay imo. The issue is closet nazis trying to insert their terrible fetishes into games; things in the spirit of pulp fiction nazis-as-orcs stuff is probably fairer. Surprisingly many WWII orcs being made out there. What guns does the Hitlernator have? Are those some early production Assault Canons or Storm Bolters? They're horrible, just like the Pig Iron Guns on Nazi Marines. Pig Iron can produce some good heads (and send them real fast) but their guns seriously lack inspiration.
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Oct 6, 2015 17:46
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Wrong size for storm bolters, wrong number of barrels for assault cannon. Unless it's some 30k thing I'm pretty sure those are some weird kitbash counts-as assault cannon.
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My first exposure to 40k Orks was in a game at Historicon one year called "Was ist ein Space Ork Ober Brau" where it was Nazis vs. 2nd edition Orks. I don't remember what the rules were like at all, but it was really fun.goatface posted:Wrong size for storm bolters, wrong number of barrels for assault cannon. Unless it's some 30k thing I'm pretty sure those are some weird kitbash counts-as assault cannon.
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You know, I hate to say it, but absent the swastikas and SS crap, that Gestapo-brown-with-red-accents color scheme on Termihitler is actually really eye-catching and very nicely executed, and would probably make for a really nice army on the table.
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