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Yeah, it's probably my favourite Millar book (in that it's pretty much the only one I find tolerable). It's got a lot of gross dumb poo poo in it, but the core concept is really good, I just adore the idea of post-apocalyptic gangs styling themselves after superheroes.
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Oct 6, 2015 00:25
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Hakkesshu posted:It's got a lot of gross dumb poo poo in it, but the core concept is really good Well, that's Millar for you.
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Oct 6, 2015 00:26
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Chaos Hippy posted:Eh, it could go either way. I think Wolverine 3 is being directed by the same guy that did The Wolverine. I wouldn't necessarily call that a good movie, but I don't think I could call it anything worse than mediocre. On the other hand, The Wolverine also had the train rooftop fight, the Silver Samurai "twist," and Viper.
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Oct 6, 2015 00:32
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Oct 6, 2015 00:46
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A human person is directing the Flash movie. I've never heard of him nor anything he's done so I have no opinion on this. http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/seth-grahame-smith-flash-director-829170
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Oct 6, 2015 02:14
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Oct 6, 2015 03:29
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It's kind of disconcerting that these studios are handing off tentpole franchises to rookie directors. It just makes it clear that these are actually being directed by committee by the studio.
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Oct 6, 2015 04:05
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"This guy has never directed a movie before, but he wrote Pride and Prejudice and Zombies!" Like seriously, could they not find anyone else to direct?
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Oct 6, 2015 04:28
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Because a directors first film is always terrible, right?
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Oct 6, 2015 05:06
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CelticPredator posted:Because a directors first film is always terrible, right? Usually a director's first film isn't going to be marketed or budgeted as a big huge blockbuster.
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Oct 6, 2015 05:08
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It seems to be happening almost all the time now. You just don't know who this guy is. That gives him room to surprise you. Lack of actual experience doesn't mean lack of talent.
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Oct 6, 2015 05:10
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It...kind of does? Talent isn't something you're magically born with, it's cultivated by work and experience. Which isn't to say that choosing a newer director is always some sort of terrible decision in every circumstance, but this is literally not a director. He has no credits to his name.
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Oct 6, 2015 05:23
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Codependent Poster posted:Usually a director's first film isn't going to be marketed or budgeted as a big huge blockbuster. David Fincher had that experience, but it wS also a compete nightmare for everyone involved.
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Oct 6, 2015 05:24
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Could another thing be that so much of big action films these days rely on huge computer generated environments? Maybe that makes the traditional lead director role a little different than it used to be to how much stuff they're directly in control of on a set vs. stuff that still gets their seal of approval in development and production, but a lot of the responsibility is delegated to more experienced FX directors and FX companies to give them what they want. I'm not sure, though. Anyone have any idea how the increased use of computers and CG have changed how much directors are involved with the production of a film?
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bobkatt013 posted:David Fincher had that experience, but it wS also a compete nightmare for everyone involved. Especially the audience.
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CelticPredator posted:It seems to be happening almost all the time now. You just don't know who this guy is. That gives him room to surprise you. Lack of actual experience doesn't mean lack of talent. Directing is a skill. How many really good directors are there in the world? There's more poo poo that goes into it than I could even imagine. It just seems like a really poor decision to give some guy his first directing gig where he'll be expected to make a huge successful movie with a gigantic budget and also expect him to be able to deal with all of the egos that exist in that world while being pressured by the studio and fans. And fans will be ruthless because there's already a good and beloved version of Flash on TV that a lot of people will think this movie is trying to replace and will always compare the two. Like, just look at Josh Trank. It was his second film and he couldn't deal with all of the poo poo with his job, and this was after a pretty good directorial debut. I'm not saying that it means the film is doomed, but it is a really confusing decision and it isn't setting the director up to succeed.
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bobkatt013 posted:David Fincher had that experience, but it wS also a compete nightmare for everyone involved. Fincher at least had experience with music videos and had been an effects cameraman. And the directors cut of Alien 3 is a much better movie. It adds back an entire plot line that was cut that makes the movie make more sense.
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BrianWilly posted:It...kind of does? Talent isn't something you're magically born with, it's cultivated by work and experience. Which isn't to say that choosing a newer director is always some sort of terrible decision in every circumstance, but this is literally not a director. He has no credits to his name. People can be born with talent. They just hone it in with experience and practice.
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Oct 6, 2015 06:32
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CelticPredator posted:People can be born with talent. They just hone it in with experience and practice. What is even the point of arguing something like that? I can't really comment on the issue because I haven't been keeping track and don't really know the distinction between this and the various other directing choices that have been called weird in the past. (Is there a difference if they were a TV director? Does that count Whedon?) mycot fucked around with this message at 06:44 on Oct 6, 2015 |
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Oct 6, 2015 06:41
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He could do a good job, he could do a bad one. It's too soon to tell and too many unknowns. One thing's for sure, that is both one hell of an opportunity, and one hell of a lot of pressure for a first gig.
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mycot posted:What is even the point of arguing something like that? Because you can be born with some dope rear end skills.
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Oct 6, 2015 06:43
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JediTalentAgent posted:I'm not sure, though. Anyone have any idea how the increased use of computers and CG have changed how much directors are involved with the production of a film? Check out the DVD features of any effects-heavy film (like Lord of the Rings) and you'll notice that, even though computer-generated aspects of a film have art directors and lead animators and so forth, at the end of the day the capital-D Director is still the one who is supervising almost every choice they make and giving them their marching orders. And, speaking as someone who works with computer art, there's nothing more frustrating or hindersome than to have a supervisor who doesn't really know the limits (or capacities) of your tools. "Have you tried turning it off and on again?" writ large. Filmmaking is a group effort, of course, but Ideally? The guy who's in charge of everyone else should know more about your craft than you do; failing that, they need to know enough about your craft be able to communicate their intent in a productive way. Now, with a big budget production like this, I can see a lot of the broader details being left up to quote-unquote "studio heads" who are ultimately the final say on this franchise anyway, but are those quote-unquote "studio heads" gonna be ones on set every day, dealing with the decisions and minutiae and problems and questions that will inevitably come up during shooting? It'd be a strange way to make a film when that's literally the director's job.
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CelticPredator posted:People can be born with talent. They just hone it in with experience and practice. The honing you speak of generally happens before someone is handed a hundred million dollar budget and told to make a blockbuster. The notion that someone could be so naturally good at something as complex as directing that they can crank out a successful blockbuster on their first try is laughable. Sure, there may be one savant in a million who could pull it off, but there is no reason to assume that any given candidate is going to be that one person. You could just as easily put this guy in the cockpit of a commercial jet with no training and assure the passengers that they shouldn't be concerned, because he might have been born with the ability to operate the complicated controls of a passenger jet. In short, when the director of a high-budget blockbuster has literally zero directing experience, it is reasonable to assume that it will go poorly at best.
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Well, then the movie sucks. And that will be that.
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Especially after Colin Trevorrow studios are probably ecstatic about the idea of hiring directors who have done jack poo poo to steer their next tentpole movies. I get the sense it's really because they don't want someone who's gonna get pissy about creative vision or the paycheck, and that they can mold into an empty golem that they can get to do whatever they want. So, I assume that even though he has credit, he's not going to be "directing" the movie entirely by himself.
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Oct 6, 2015 10:41
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Someone read the script to Lego Batman and gave the guy a directing job. Instead of worrying about The Flash, get excited for Lego Batman 
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Oct 6, 2015 11:39
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Give the DCCU to Josh Trant.
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Oct 6, 2015 13:23
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Aphrodite posted:I assume when they say Old Man Logan what they really mean is some kind of post Apocalypse vaguely-Western where Wolverine is a pacifist through most of it so they make a scene where he flips the gently caress out for like 20 minutes. So Unforgiven but with Wolverine. This could be the best or the worst.
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Another thing to keep in mind with rookie directors on big tentpole films is that a director is not necessarily all alone steering the ship. They're probably working with an experienced cinematographer that they can rely on to a huge extent, plus they'll probably have a second unit director and they can carry a huge part of the filming load, the second unit might well be filming every part of a huge battle that doesn't involve the hero actors themselves. Ultimately it's the director that's responsible for the production but if they're smart about listening to their more experienced crew, there's no reason they can't succeed.
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XO sits bolt upright in bed. Chills prickle him. He doesn't know why.
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Oct 6, 2015 16:03
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Oh god no.
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Oct 6, 2015 16:05
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He might not even be the director by the time they start filming.
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Oct 6, 2015 16:06
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She's wasn't very good in FF7 so I'd rather someone else get the role. She looks the part though.
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MacheteZombie posted:He might not even be the director by the time they start filming. Who might not? Marvel Studios President Kevin Feige?
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I'm not sure her role in FF7 was substantial enough to rate it either way. I think other than fighting she just stands around a bit, and walks?
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MacheteZombie posted:She's wasn't very good in FF7 so I'd rather someone else get the role.
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Oct 6, 2015 16:09
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Comic book movie franchises are dyin', Cloud.
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Aphrodite posted:I'm not sure her role in FF7 was substantial enough to rate it either way. She has 3-4 lines iirc. Not that's it's a lot of material to work with, and she is new to acting so I could get past it for a Fast n Furious movie. She was just so stiff and not in a way that emphasized her as "the head of security". Ignite Memories posted:Who might not? Marvel Studios President Kevin Feige? The Flash director dude who directed 2 episodes of a show about a big dicked nerd. redbackground posted:Agreed, she was a terrible Cloud. Noice.
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It would be very very dumb for Marvel to have the star of their first solo film of a female superhero be someone who can't act.
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