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Degs posted:I'm playing this for the first time, the atmosphere and art direction are fantastic and medic / explorer is decently fun. End game, mostly. It was pretty sparse content-wise and super grindy a year ago and I don't think that's changed much. Also, you are dealing with a community that thinks their game is hardcore and they're super bad rear end, so get ready for that.
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LITERALLY MY FETISH posted:there were a shitload of ways, but one of the bigger ones, in terms of how many people abused it (including me) was you could buy iron ore from the market at a pretty low price, be an architect and spam metal plates or planks or whatever they were, and vendor them. Your 20 silver investment would turn into like 1.5g or something, and then you just reinvest and do it over and over, getting a bigger and bigger bankroll as you go. I got up to 30 gold or so from doing it sparingly, and at the time I believe Plexx was going for like 5-6g apiece? I'd quit well before this happened but the economy destroying bug was that seeds, when planted in the player housing garden, would instantly grow to full size rather than requiring time to grow. Because the finished products vendored for a lot more than the seeds, this meant you could literally farm infinite money out of your housing plot. Cue introduction of insane amounts of money to the economy as almost everyone does this, and their inability to stop it or ban the offenders since the offenders were "basically their entire subscriber base". People bought out the entire Auction House, not to mention buying tons of the 30 days subscription items. No rollback. Week-long bans. Money confiscated, but not the items.
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Degs posted:I'm playing this for the first time, the atmosphere and art direction are fantastic and medic / explorer is decently fun. There really isn't one single place where everything suddenly becomes unplayably bad. It's more like steadily heaping indignities onto you once you get into the neutral zones -- the zones themselves get more generic and more annoying to traverse, combat starts to take longer because everything becomes an HP sponge, the game throws the lovely, ultra-grimdark and serious "The Strain" plot at you and loses its mild sense of humor. All the worthwhile setting and theme aspects of the game disappear and all that's left is annoying combat in gray and purple deserts.
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The Chairman posted:There really isn't one single place where everything suddenly becomes unplayably bad. It's more like steadily heaping indignities onto you once you get into the neutral zones -- the zones themselves get more generic and more annoying to traverse, combat starts to take longer because everything becomes an HP sponge, the game throws the lovely, ultra-grimdark and serious "The Strain" plot at you and loses its mild sense of humor. All the worthwhile setting and theme aspects of the game disappear and all that's left is annoying combat in gray and purple deserts. So, basically, Whitevale?
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CoffeeBooze posted:So, basically, Whitevale? Whitevale is bad, but I think Wilderrun is worse over all.
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Oct 5, 2015 23:35
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I just got my character to level 40 and am just focused on the PvP. Its not bad, a lot of people are doing it so the queue pops quickly.
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Oct 6, 2015 00:13
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Strangely enough the PVP is the best part of the game.
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Stanley Pain posted:Strangely enough the PVP is the best part of the game. That and your plot of land to put stuff down.
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Rhymenoserous posted:I kinda like that you post this picture as something that should be looked up to. who said it should be looked up to? also don't princess shame, please, even if you're bitter about being REALLY into wildstar at launch.
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I liked Whitevale and Malgrave, but Wilderrun and Grimvault were both pretty humorless and same-y. Maybe it's just because I'm a sucker for Protostar poo poo.
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LITERALLY MY FETISH posted:who said it should be looked up to? PSO2 is a garbage game for garbage people
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Commissar Budgie posted:I liked Whitevale and Malgrave, but Wilderrun and Grimvault were both pretty humorless and same-y. Maybe it's just because I'm a sucker for Protostar poo poo. Whitevale is where my leveling cratered hard, for some reason they had a large number of kill quests there that only gave you tiny increments on each kill. Felt grindy.
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Babe Magnet posted:PSO2 is a garbage game for garbage people It's on the same level of bad as Wildstar but for different reasons. PSO2 is a bad game stuck in 1999 along with the first PSO.
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Commissar Budgie posted:I liked Whitevale and Malgrave, but Wilderrun and Grimvault were both pretty humorless and same-y. Maybe it's just because I'm a sucker for Protostar poo poo. Whitevale and Malgrave have some interesting set pieces, while the whole of Wilderrun and Grimvault feel like you're sitting on the bus next to a guy who wants to tell you all about the custom D&D campaign universe he came up with
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Whitevale is a pretty bad offender on the "same 'ol grindy quests" front, with several different quests that seem to send you out to same the same dumb monkey mobs you just killed for the dude at the last quest hub. The only thing that it has on the positive side is the sudden transition out of snow into grass-land with Protostar dudes. (I think it is also where you pick up some funny head gear, like the fez from the freebot running the Wizard-of-Oz style con on a robo-cult, and the mind-control squid that talks to you while you wear it.)
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Babe Magnet posted:PSO2 is a garbage game for garbage people I wish there was a bad games crew gang tag so people know I don't think the games I play are shining beacons of gaming or whatever still better than wildstar
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you could always get an anime avatar and then people would just stop taking your opinions on anything seriously lol though agreed, played it about as long as I played Wildstar (the beta) and PSO2 is way better
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Oct 6, 2015 04:21
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Anoia posted:She looks sad and malnourished.
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I got through Whitevale and didn't notice anything notable about it other than the talking squid hat (which was funny for the first minute and then got incredibly annoying for the next hour before I replaced it). The kill quests just encourage you to find bigger mobs that are worth more points, and it's more fun to fight those guys anyway. That said, I also quit the game during the downtime over the weekend and started playing GW2, so this isn't exactly a recommendation. I just didn't see anything exceptionally wrong with Whitevale.
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Most people didn't give a poo poo about whitevale because Wildrun got to be such a loving slog that it overshadowed everything else. Hell, before they nerfed it in late beta, my levelling strategy was just to sit at one of the zones that's full of the stone tribesman guys, and farm them for the levels I needed, since they dropped rune pieces really frequently. Sitting and grinding the same mobs like it was 2006 was a more pleasurable idea than doing Wildrun as intended.
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Orcs and Ostriches posted:Is this actually an opinion people have? Everything I've seen of this game is full of grotesque looking caricatures of human life, set in a tepid environment that's both bland and gaudy at the same time. The best parts of the game generally look like they ripped off wow wholesale from 2005, while most of it looks like an unfinished indie game. It reminds me more of Pixar-does-space than orcs-in-space. WoW art was Metzen's signature art: huge shoulders, huge hands, huge feet, tiny heads, lots of green (in his own words: over-proportioned) Some of that is preserved in the big stony guys, but for the most part, the influence seems more heavily drawn from 1970s scifi with a bit of Treasure Planet / Atlantis era Disney and obviously a bit of Futurama/Firefly for the space-western/space-so-funny BS. Also big eyed women because thats the thing to do in the 2010s. More to the point, unlike most MMOs I've played in the last 5 years, it has a consistent art style of its own, rather than a half-assed attempt to make effeminate anime men look badass. The Chairman posted:There really isn't one single place where everything suddenly becomes unplayably bad. It's more like steadily heaping indignities onto you once you get into the neutral zones -- the zones themselves get more generic and more annoying to traverse, combat starts to take longer because everything becomes an HP sponge, the game throws the lovely, ultra-grimdark and serious "The Strain" plot at you and loses its mild sense of humor. All the worthwhile setting and theme aspects of the game disappear and all that's left is annoying combat in gray and purple deserts. Oh joy. Now I have to decide if I want to watch the transition from light-hearted space romp to...that. Degs fucked around with this message at 10:13 on Oct 6, 2015 |
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Hahaha, wow, the Wildstar community is still terrible. There's a thread on the forum where a guy is complaining that dying armor at max level takes 1-3 plat per slot on the armor, and asks for advice on how to get this crazy amount of money so he can dye his gear. The community response is Wildstar as heck:quote:Play the long game. You play MMOs for years, potentially. Play for the community and the fun, try new things and come back to that stuff with the gold you've earned. quote:Yea, kind of hard to use FFXI as a bench when it's been cited as one of the worst MMOs ever developed that it's only success point was being driven by the FF IP. quote:You're right Jeff, [raiding in wildstar] incredibly simple and easymode for face rollers. in FFXI you couldn't dream of Endgame optimization unless you were literally one of a hand full of players in the most elite guilds. The vast majority of the player base could never hope to optimise their characters because of the sheer resources you needed from Dynamis to craft your relic weapons and armour. The same can be said about many more MMO's then not.
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Degs posted:It reminds me more of Pixar-does-space than orcs-in-space. Not enough dakka for that.
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Mormon Star Wars posted:Hahaha, wow, the Wildstar community is still terrible. There's a thread on the forum where a guy is complaining that dying armor at max level takes 1-3 plat per slot on the armor, and asks for advice on how to get this crazy amount of money so he can dye his gear. The community response is Wildstar as heck:  Man, this dude needs to show us on the doll where Empyrean Weapons touched him
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Pretend I wrote a paragraph here about how wrong in the head people are re: grinding content in games == good or something.
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I've played pvp since lvl 6 and I've been standing in the main city all this time, never going outside. Had to help a buddy kill an elite mob out in some place somewhere yesterday, and then after that I couldn't find my way back to town. Took me half an hour to get back because I never did the quest chain to get the main city recall skill. God damnit Wildstar.
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Degs posted:More to the point, unlike most MMOs I've played in the last 5 years, it has a consistent art style of its own, rather than a half-assed attempt to make effeminate anime men look badass. Nothing grinds my gears more than men who do not conform to traditional hyper masculine stereotypes.
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Oct 6, 2015 17:19
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Eej posted:Nothing grinds my gears more than men who do not conform to traditional hyper masculine stereotypes. 
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Eej posted:Nothing grinds my gears more than men who do not conform to traditional hyper masculine stereotypes. That was exactly the kind of outcry the original blood elf male model got in the burning crusade beta. Countless guys posted that they loved the goku and sephiroth hair but what if the fact they were so svelte made people think they were g-g-g-gay?  So they literally buffed the models and that was that. Day saved!
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Mormon Star Wars posted:Hahaha, wow, the Wildstar community is still terrible. There's a thread on the forum where a guy is complaining that dying armor at max level takes 1-3 plat per slot on the armor, and asks for advice on how to get this crazy amount of money so he can dye his gear. The community response is Wildstar as heck: 3 plat isn't exactly hard to get. The game spits money at you once you've hit the elder gem cap for the week. Once you hit elder gem cap all exp gains turn into money gains.
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So Wildstar bashing aside, are we putting the goonsquad back together?
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Standing8 posted:So Wildstar bashing aside, are we putting the goonsquad back together? You need to be a premium subscriber to make a guild thing.
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Standing8 posted:So Wildstar bashing aside, are we putting the goonsquad back together? It doesn't sound like it.
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People who can't, for whatever reason, buy Ncoins in-game are being directed by Carbine to buy them from Amazon instead. However, those Amazon codes are set up by NCsoft so that they only can be redeemed if you have at least one active Aion or Lineage II character. So, Carbine's solution: download Aion and make a character there first.
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The Chairman posted:People who can't, for whatever reason, buy Ncoins in-game are being directed by Carbine to buy them from Amazon instead. However, those Amazon codes are set up by NCsoft so that they only can be redeemed if you have at least one active Aion or Lineage II character. So, Carbine's solution: download Aion and make a character there first. Just when you thought it couldn't get any better -- it does.
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Kimsemus posted:Just when you thought it couldn't get any better -- it does. From what I saw buying them ingame just directs you to an external browser. This may be a NCSoft problem not a Carbine one. Carbine on the other hand should answer for making runes so retarded.
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Loose Ifer posted:You need to be a premium subscriber to make a guild thing. It's tied to either premium subscribers or people who have spent enough money on the game already, so anyone who was unfortunate enough to buy the game before the F2P transition can make guilds and circles, have more bank tabs, get bonus mounts, etc. automatically.
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