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DaveKap posted:Two problems with this that more or less make the game feel inconsistent on this point. Solid Snake was personally trained by Big Boss in FOXHOUND. That's where he learned CQC and then immediately refused to use it after the events of MG1 & 2. It's funny that by filling one plot hole (how does Snake kill Big Boss twice?) they open another one (how would Snake not realize Big Boss was really Venom in Outer Heaven?). You can argue that the prosthetic could be covered up, but the scars and horn are a dead giveaway, especially to someone like Snake. There's the possibility that plastic surgery got better in the 90's, but the final cutscene of Mission 46 implies Venom's appearance hadn't changed even up to Operation N313. 
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I expect if pressed, Kojima would explain the resolution of the sprites wasn't high enough for Snake to recognize the horn and prosthetic.
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Oct 6, 2015 14:01
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zedprime posted:I expect if pressed, Kojima would explain the resolution of the sprites wasn't high enough for Snake to recognize the horn and prosthetic. Lol ya.
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Oct 6, 2015 14:02
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Details about today's update: http://www.metalgearinformer.com/?p=22663.
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Oct 6, 2015 14:03
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Antti posted:He can suddenly speak fluent Kikongo when addressing Eli in White Mamba. That or he practiced "You're the white mamba, right" on his way to the AO because it's one line and could be useful.
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Oct 6, 2015 14:10
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He speaks English in White Mamba if you don't have a Kikongo translator/speaker
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Amorphous Blob posted:What I liked about Sutherland was how he sounds like he's trying to settle into the role much like Venom needed time to become Big Boss. Metacommentary and yadda yadda I got this as well, but it just makes me sad that they didn't have Hayter do Ishmael. Would have added a really cool layer of meaning onto the whole thing.
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ThomasPaine posted:I got this as well, but it just makes me sad that they didn't have Hayter do Ishmael. Would have added a really cool layer of meaning onto the whole thing. I agree, though there is no noise Hayter could make that would not give him away immediately. I could recognize the sound of Hayter's butt cheeks slapping together; that's how distinct he is.
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Oct 6, 2015 15:03
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Raxivace posted:Details about today's update: http://www.metalgearinformer.com/?p=22663. the event fobs sound interesting, i bet they'll have all kinds of story stuff in it, that first one sounds like it anywho. half expecting an eli fob raid now and the fact that nuke resources and dev are completely online based now means we're one step closer to unlocking that loving chapter 2 ending. lol FOB insurance. gently caress you. wonder if they'll have ocelot doing the ads.
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Raxivace posted:Details about today's update: http://www.metalgearinformer.com/?p=22663. The auto sniper can now go to grade 7 i am salivating
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Luna Was Here posted:The auto sniper can now go to grade 7 the grade list menu seems to go up to 8 on pc (i remember reading on consoles you could only see up to 6) so expect another update at some point.
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Oct 6, 2015 15:13
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Vikar Jerome posted:i bet they'll have all kinds of story stuff The first one is literally just a regular FOB with a unique emblem on its soldiers and things and there's zero story at all and the nuclear ending probably isn't legitimately in the game the lip synching isn't even finished on it.
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the best bit of this update "Infiltrate without leaving a trace! If you avoid being spotted by enemies, and refrain from killing/extracting staff and damaging/extracting containers and equipment, you can now play all the way through an FOB infiltration without the rival player being notified." yes! i might actually give it a go now.
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Aurain posted:The first one is literally just a regular FOB with a unique emblem on its soldiers and things and there's zero story at all and the nuclear ending probably isn't legitimately in the game the lip synching isn't even finished on it. it is finished. the lip synching was finished. what you are refering to is the bit where there is obvious voice over during the part they are staring out into the sun. it's a common comment i keep seeing people bring up and it's really weird no one can tell that bit is meant to be complete voice over. oh and bits from that scene are in the "coming up in chapter 2" stinger that plays at the end of chapter 1 too. it's a finished scene that is obviously meant to only unlock through these events, the code for the scene requiring server side numbers of nukes and this update making nukes server side and the fact they keep trying to remove that scene from youtube all the time but nothing else tells you as much. Vikar Jerome fucked around with this message at 15:20 on Oct 6, 2015 |
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ThomasPaine posted:I got this as well, but it just makes me sad that they didn't have Hayter do Ishmael. Would have added a really cool layer of meaning onto the whole thing. That would have revealed the twist immediately, even if you hadn't even played the game yet. No "SPOILER WARNING* in a thread title or post is going to make people not immediately get what's coming when preceded by "Kojima got us again. Hatter actually IS in MGSV".
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Vikar Jerome posted:it is finished. the lip synching was finished. what you are refering to is the bit where there is obvious voice over during the part they are staring out into the sun. it's a common comment i keep seeing people bring up and it's really weird no one can tell that bit is meant to be complete voice over. It keeps coming up because it's not worded as if it's a voice over but does sound like it's Miller talking to Big Boss after leaving the med bay, which is precisely what they are doing in the cutscene. Like, maybe if no one else can tell that it's meant to be a voice over and everyone else thinks it's not synched up properly, that's probably a decent sign that one of the viewpoints is likely a bit wonky.
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Aurain posted:It keeps coming up because it's not worded as if it's a voice over but does sound like it's Miller talking to Big Boss after leaving the med bay, which is precisely what they are doing in the cutscene. there is like 10 people who can't tell its voice over. it's a moot point anyway at the moment and only time will tell which one of us will come back and yell "toldya so!" also that konami manager guy said on twitter it was real and was surprised people unlocked it so quick (until he realised it was through modding only) Vikar Jerome fucked around with this message at 16:12 on Oct 6, 2015 |
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Shoren posted:Solid Snake was personally trained by Big Boss in FOXHOUND. That's where he learned CQC and then immediately refused to use it after the events of MG1 & 2. It's funny that by filling one plot hole (how does Snake kill Big Boss twice?) they open another one (how would Snake not realize Big Boss was really Venom in Outer Heaven?). You can argue that the prosthetic could be covered up, but the scars and horn are a dead giveaway, especially to someone like Snake. There's the possibility that plastic surgery got better in the 90's, but the final cutscene of Mission 46 implies Venom's appearance hadn't changed even up to Operation N313. It's also likely that Solid/everyone else really weren't aware that venom was a separate individual as that was kind of the point of the plan no? What are the chances Solid hadn't seen BB in some time at that point or even just that Venom was wearing a glove over the hand like Anakin Skywalker to disguise the injury? It seems like the two big bosses would have to put some effort into making people believe they were the same person aside from just never being in the same room.
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Vikar Jerome posted:the best bit of this update "Infiltrate without leaving a trace! Pretty sure this doesn't actually work yet. I tried this just now and had a defender show up even though I didn't even trigger one of the white "interest" bars.
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net cafe scandal posted:
I mean, Zero, Sigint, Naomi, that all makes sense. What makes absolutely no sense to me at all is why/how EVA came back. That is dumbest poo poo and shits all over then ending of Snake Eater.
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Snak posted:I mean, Zero, Sigint, Naomi, that all makes sense. What makes absolutely no sense to me at all is why/how EVA came back. That is dumbest poo poo and shits all over then ending of Snake Eater. I think its assumed they joined because Big Boss joined.
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scaterry posted:I think its assumed they joined because Big Boss joined. Again, does not make sense with the ending of Snake Eater. EVA plays Big Boss like a drat fiddle, and just like, comes back and says "my bad, ur idea is better ima join you"
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Oct 6, 2015 16:47
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To be fair, he later saves her life in Hanoi and she was clearly in love with Big Boss anyway. Moreover, since she had been thrown out by the Chinese for failing to acquire the real Legacy, getting an invite to join the winning side must have been nice.
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Snak posted:Again, does not make sense with the ending of Snake Eater. EVA plays Big Boss like a drat fiddle, and just like, comes back and says "my bad, ur idea is better ima join you" Except Ocelot played both of them. EVA ends up with the fake data, loses her job and disappears. It makes sense that at some point she'd go looking for it again and get sucked into Patriots drama.
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The five word answer is she's in love with Snake.
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Donnerberg posted:Except Ocelot played both of them. EVA ends up with the fake data, loses her job and disappears. It makes sense that at some point she'd go looking for it again and get sucked into Patriots drama. He kinda ditched her again after the LET thing, but maybe the real Big Boss hooked up with her again at some point? I mean, she somehow got his bike.
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The temporary color loss in Chapter 51 seemed to come out of nowhere for me, but I replayed Awakening to show my girlfriend, and there's a part where he suffers the same temporary color blindness after suffering an injury. The blood on Venom appeared to be black and the fire in the background was white.
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Detective No. 27 posted:The temporary color loss in Chapter 51 seemed to come out of nowhere for me, but I replayed Awakening to show my girlfriend, and there's a part where he suffers the same temporary color blindness after suffering an injury. The blood on Venom appeared to be black and the fire in the background was white. Your colors get hosed up whenever you receive a serious injury. There's some dialogue with Ocelot somewhere in the first couple missions, or maybe his briefing tapes, that covers this.
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Yeah, mission 51 is also an incomplete draft. They could've intended to use the 'serious injury' filter during the shoot-out, with the critical health siren and everything, for all we know. What's there is just palette swapped models right now.
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Well gently caress I'm trying MGO and I can't get into a single match. Keeps saying 'searched match can't be found'. Oh good. I hope they fix it soon because it looks like good fun.
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acksplode posted:Your colors get hosed up whenever you receive a serious injury. There's some dialogue with Ocelot somewhere in the first couple missions, or maybe his briefing tapes, that covers this. I never noticed this because I never sustained any serious injuries.  I just died a lot.
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acksplode posted:Your colors get hosed up whenever you receive a serious injury. There's some dialogue with Ocelot somewhere in the first couple missions, or maybe his briefing tapes, that covers this. Y'know I somehow missed that connection and just assumed it was Call of Duty style red screen.
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The color change is different from the screen going red. One time I jumped off mother base and got a critical injury. After I pressed the button to give myself first aid, the blood on my face was blue and other such things
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So in the first mission Ocelot says I can place markers while looking at stuff through my scope or camera. There's no camera item in the game.
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There's no Octacon either, your copy of the game must be really weird!
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A Steampunk Gent posted:There's no Octacon either, your copy of the game must be really weird! Is Octacon the codename of Decoy Octopus pretending to be Otacon? Like "Liquid Ocelot"?
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After finishing MGS1 and 2 almost immediately after playing V, its incredible how well the plot fits together. I genuinely expected it to be awkward and kinda funky but I have to say, very impressed.
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Amorphous Blob posted:What I liked about Sutherland was how he sounds like he's trying to settle into the role much like Venom needed time to become Big Boss. Metacommentary and yadda yadda
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Yeah, idk if its intentional or not but Sutherland talks a lot when it's actually Naked Snake/BB in the tapes or in the game.
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