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Ilor posted:You know, I hate to say it, but absent the swastikas and SS crap, that Gestapo-brown-with-red-accents color scheme on Termihitler is actually really eye-catching and very nicely executed, and would probably make for a really nice army on the table. 
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goatface posted:Wrong size for storm bolters, wrong number of barrels for assault cannon. Unless it's some 30k thing I'm pretty sure those are some weird kitbash counts-as assault cannon. They look like upside-down storm bolters welded to part of an assault cannon with a sculpted (judging by the badly offset nipples) barrel stuck on the end to me. Deffo counts-as though.
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Oct 6, 2015 19:49
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A picture of literal Nazis on the top of page 88. Well done, goons, well done.
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YF19pilot posted:A picture of literal Nazis on the top of page 88. Well done, goons, well done. We can do worse, buddy. https://www.google.com/search?q=lego+hitler&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0CB0QsARqFQoTCKrRt8-ir8gCFcGdgAodUkIEzA&biw=1360&bih=634 Don't push us.
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enrious posted:We can do worse, buddy. I'm trying to look for more 40k Nazis, but just digging up people asking for advice on how to make 40k Nazis. It's a bit hilarious because for people so obsessed with Nazis they keep calling the balkenkreuz a "stylized iron cross" and not knowing the difference between the two. But then I feel bad for knowing the difference, though it's from being a historical grog not some Nazi obsessive.
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enrious posted:We can do worse, buddy. Oh hey, this is pretty neat. https://holocaustvisualarchive.wordpress.com/tag/lego/ That was kind of creative of that kid. From the same page, lower down: http://users.erols.com/kennrice/lego-kz.htm Dark!
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Why is it that people who do nazi orks are horrible weirdos, while people who do Soviet guardsmen are awesome? I always saw this stuff, especially the Orks as parody. Being a fan of Herr Flick of ze Gestapo doesn't really make you an actual nazi. 
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HardCoil posted:Why is it that people who do nazi orks are horrible weirdos, while people who do Soviet guardsmen are awesome? Not many actual Communists on your side of the pond, and they probably spend more time with politics, while Nazi sympathizers just make toy hitlers and spend time talking about the untermensch on /pol/ and D&D. Plus, you folks only ever really fought Nazis, not USSR.
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Oct 7, 2015 07:11
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TheCosmicMuffet posted:From the same page, lower down: A defiant Pole used Lego blocks to depict a Nazi death camp to show the gap between the ideal world marketed to children and reality. Works spark fight over free speech, Poland's sensitivity about its past. Yes, the gap between orange transparent chainsaws, racers, LEGO firetrucks and Nazis.
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Oct 7, 2015 07:13
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No swastikas lovingly hand painted onto each worm, 0/10.
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Oct 7, 2015 07:51
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I could paint sickles and hammers since all soviets are communists and therefore nazis
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HardCoil posted:Why is it that people who do nazi orks are horrible weirdos, while people who do Soviet guardsmen are awesome? People who do "Soviet" guard are usually idiots who fall for the pop culture myth of the Soviet hordes, while most people who do anything Nazi-themed aren't doing it for parody. I'm the rear end in a top hat who would model his tanks to look like T34/85s with the propaganda slogans painted on the side. Actually, I'm lying. If I was going to do a WWII themed IG army, I would do Bersaglieri. 
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If you want conscripts, just paint them as Italian blackshirts!  I'm sure there was a WWI Italian general that would work with the "Send in the next wave" rule.  Hey, the squatshitter has open turret/driver's position for some reason.
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A giant robot that's weak to rain! Also, that has to be hell on the pilots' ears. I'd be fine with it on an Imperial mech--it fits their 'lovely remnants of the glorious past' aesthetic--but it's totally out of place for Tau.
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Esser-Z posted:A giant robot that's weak to rain! Also, that has to be hell on the pilots' ears. So, you take the legs off a Knight, and torso without shoulder, add Whirlwind batteries instead of arms, hang tarantulas/bolters under them, and add... some knight weapon instead of a Railgun. Yes, I see how that would work for an extreme amount of money.
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JcDent posted:So, you take the legs off a Knight, and torso without shoulder, add Whirlwind batteries instead of arms, hang tarantulas/bolters under them, and add... some knight weapon instead of a Railgun. Really, it's basically only the feet and emblem that say 'tau' about this mech. Maybe the style of the big shoulder gun. Overall, it really doesn't look like one of their mechs.
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Oct 7, 2015 12:17
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Oct 7, 2015 12:39
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I like to imagine the pilots constantly ducking to stay out of the sensors frame. Why would anyone put that array behind their heads? 
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JcDent posted:Hey, the squatshitter has open turret/driver's position for some reason. Luckily literally no race in the 40K universe including the Tau themselves have developed technology or have evolved special limbs/appendages that would let them jump/climb the high distance from the ground to the cockpit to attack it directly. Similarly, no race has developed the equivalent of a modern day 'frag' grenade that could be detonated in the open cockpit killing all crew instantly. Or the equivalent of a MRLS barrage type weapon. Or oh gently caress it, god drat stupid designers.
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Oct 7, 2015 13:36
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moths posted:I like to imagine the pilots constantly ducking to stay out of the sensors frame. Why would anyone put that array behind their heads? They don't need to do any ducking! There's a tiny sensor head on the right side, just under the xbox-huge railgun, and the main pilot guy has a tiny viewport in front of him. It's probably full of cameras, because on the inside of the cockpit, and it's console all the way around.
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Oct 7, 2015 13:41
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JcDent posted:If you want conscripts, just paint them as Italian blackshirts! Don't forget that the huge gun has a cooling vent which points directly into the cockpit. Great job, GW! 
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YF19pilot posted:A picture of literal Nazis on the top of page 88. Well done, goons, well done. But don't you feel so unspired?
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YF19pilot posted:People who do "Soviet" guard are usually idiots who fall for the pop culture myth of the Soviet hordes, while most people who do anything Nazi-themed aren't doing it for parody.
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Terrible Opinions posted:I really wish that I lived where you do, in a nation apparently devoid of anime marxists. What magical land is devoid of nerd soviet apologists? Well, to be fair, where I live now there is no wargaming. No 40k, no FoW, nothing. Only a couple of board game cafes and a few model shops where people play D&D and M:TG. Outside of the occasional converted KV "Baneblade", I've never come across Stalinbos like Werabos, so feel free to post some Soviet-apologia unspiration, since that's what this thread is about.
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Terrible Opinions posted:I really wish that I lived where you do, in a nation apparently devoid of anime marxists. What magical land is devoid of nerd soviet apologists? ...Where do you live?  I mean, your place, you probably have a better idea of what the local meta's like, but around here any wargamer rant about the soviets is always about how they're stupid hordes of conscript infantry with no experience and one brain between them, without enough guns and with vehicles that fall apart in a stiff breeze even if the actual stats are pretty good because everyone knows they couldn't really assemble tanks that good in a factory*. There's a vanishingly small group of actual tankies who occupy fringe positions on actual marxists groups, but I know tiny amounts of marxist wargamers and none of them who liked the soviets very much, especially under Stalin. *Also throw in stuff like "Comissars went around the battlefield gunning people down for having their boots muddy" and poo poo. spectralent fucked around with this message at 15:46 on Oct 7, 2015 |
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JcDent posted:If you want conscripts, just paint them as Italian blackshirts! Christ that thing is an even bigger mess from the side.
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Terrible Opinions posted:I really wish that I lived where you do, in a nation apparently devoid of anime marxists. What magical land is devoid of nerd soviet apologists? I don't think that ex-LF twitter nerds go outside very much
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Is it worse or better to paint your IG as actual Red Army/Wehrmacht/US Marines or to simply borrow the color palette and maybe do some light converting to create the 443rd Communist Planet Regiment with winged skulls and eagles where the stars and hammer-sickle combos should go? It would be so easy to evoke the image of your favourite historical babykillers or whatever, without going full nazi. I wouldn't be that offended by a Krieg Black Coat Regiment, though the red armbands would be a bit much.
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Decorus posted:Is it worse or better to paint your IG as actual Red Army/Wehrmacht/US Marines or to simply borrow the color palette and maybe do some light converting to create the 443rd Communist Planet Regiment with winged skulls and eagles where the stars and hammer-sickle combos should go?  I have a Valhallan Imperial Guard army that's based on the Red Army, but a lot of that is because the Valhallan models were clearly the Perry twins wanting to sculpt historicals at the time, and I don't go full hammers and sickles with everything. My ideologies aren't communist and I know the actual Soviets did plenty of bad poo poo, I just like Red Alert and the aesthetics. I basically did what you said, they're the Valhallan 32nd Rifles, and while they have red stars on them I didn't go ahead and file off the aquilas to put on hammers and sickles in their place. I think you can evoke less pretty parts of history without being an rear end in a top hat about it and get away with it just fine. GW has been doing that for 30 years.
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The thing is that the imagery, used sparingly, conveys something ideological about the forces by tapping into our shared knowledge. A figure with a pickelhaube or bicorne, absurd moustache, and dozens of medals evokes a nobility system, old blood, and old-timey 1800s warfare. But actually painting the historical unit makings of Hitler's actual fifth genocide SS battalion, you cross a line into a weird tribute to those specific fascists.
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moths posted:The thing is that the imagery, used sparingly, conveys something ideological about the forces by tapping into our shared knowledge.
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Decorus posted:Is it worse or better to paint your IG as actual Red Army/Wehrmacht/US Marines or to simply borrow the color palette and maybe do some light converting to create the 443rd Communist Planet Regiment with winged skulls and eagles where the stars and hammer-sickle combos should go? I think when you start painting swastikas or giant murals of Aryan Pride on the side of your Soviet iconography, at least in the west, will appear innocuous to the average passerby, and wouldn't raise an eyebrow except for the most groggiest of historical grogs if you started slapping pro-Stalin propaganda slogans on the sides of your Basically, different imagery and iconography are treated differently depending on how your local society is sensitive to/willing to tolerate it. Just be mindful of how others may perceive what you're doing, and don't pretend it was an accident when you paint the loving 3rd SS-Division Totenkopf. Also, black coat SS is loving boring for a battle field. Why the hell not fallshirmjagers? I'd love a chance to paint that cammo at 28mm level, but Warlord Games hates Taiwan for some reason. e: I type a lot and I type slow.
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Terrible Opinions posted:I really wish that I lived where you do, in a nation apparently devoid of anime marxists. What magical land is devoid of nerd soviet apologists? ahahaha you fool 
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moths posted:The thing is that the imagery, used sparingly, conveys something ideological about the forces by tapping into our shared knowledge. Thanks, this is a better way of explaining what I was talking about. Also for the record, I wasn't trying to claim that the US Marines were as bad as Nazis or anything. My point was that writing US MARINES on your Leman Russes is pretty stupid too.
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SRM posted:Krieg are also based on WW1 Germans and French, so it'd actually just be missing the point of the army to think they're Nazis How did you feel when they replaced the Chekhov with a major send in the next wave stereotype? Oh, an speaking of AE-WWII:  Spot the stereotype!
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JcDent posted:How did you feel when they replaced the Chekhov with a major send in the next wave stereotype? And obviously somebody really liked Enemy at the Gates.
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spectralent posted:...Where do you live? Improbable Lobster posted:I don't think that ex-LF twitter nerds go outside very much
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Terrible Opinions posted:I live in the middle of nowhere so almost all of my games are through Vassal with friends who live in San Francisco. So yeah no outside required. San Fran may be giving me a biased view of wargaming, but their group has a staggering number of anime obsessed Stalin apologists. For some reason I think they're probably not as bad as neo-nazis are
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