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Tunga
May 7, 2004

Grimey Drawer

FogHelmut posted:

My whole 2013 Moto X fits within the screen of a Nexus 6p
I'm going to release an app called Small Phone Emulator and make millions.

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ilkhan
Oct 7, 2004

I LOVE Musk and his pro-first-amendment ways. X is the future.

FogHelmut posted:

My whole 2013 Moto X fits within the screen of a Nexus 6p
Hell my entire N5 almost fits within the screen of an N6P.

FogHelmut
Dec 18, 2003

It looks like the Nexus 5x is the same width as the 2014 Moto X, so it is still able to be held reasonably with one hand.

TollTheHounds
Mar 23, 2006

He died for your sins...
Blackberry Priv can shoot 4k ( who cares ) and comes with "SafeGuard" for security.

http://mobilesyrup.com/2015/10/06/blackberry-priv-can-shoot-4k-video-and-will-come-with-blackberry-safeguard/

Maybe the one thing that might make me still consider this Blackberry is their "security" angle if it's legit. But if you look at the screenshot in that article, it's just a loving gauge that tells you if you have Dev options enabled, device encryption turned on, and a screen lock. I suppose it's convenient if you just don't know about poo poo like that but it really doesn't offer any sort of extra security if you already have all that poo poo enabled/disabled anyway.

Security related, as I'm hovering over the checkout button for this gargantuan 6P, is that apparently Huawei sold lovely routers a few years back and other chinese items like irons & kettles come pre-hacked from the factory. An example is an iron with an unadvertised WiFi chip in it that scanned for open networks and then dialed back to China for...profit? Probably old news ( 2012/2013 ) but I'd never heard of it. This is probably just :911: and everything is made in China anyway, and a lot of poo poo has changed in 3 years.

"The most controversial routers come from Chinese telecom companies ZTE and Huawei. The House Intelligence Committee released a report in October 2012 warning American businesses to avoid the two companies due to security risks. Similar warnings against Huawei, in particular, have been upheld by governments around the world, including in Taiwan and Australia.

“China is known to be the major perpetrator of cyber espionage, and Huawei and ZTE failed to alleviate serious concerns throughout this important investigation,” said Mike Rogers, chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, in a press release. “American businesses should use other vendors.”

Huawei has launched a public relations campaign to fire back, yet independent research has only justified concerns. Just prior to the report from the House Intelligence Committee, in July 2012, security researchers at hacker conference Defcon uncovered critical, and extremely basic, vulnerabilities in Huawei routers.

“This stuff is distrusting,” Dan Kaminsky, a well-known security researcher, told International Data Group News Service. “If I were to teach someone from scratch how to write binary exploits, these routers would be what I’d demonstrate on.”"

http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/366229-pre-hacked-electronics-come-straight-from-chinas-factories/

TollTheHounds fucked around with this message at 20:28 on Oct 7, 2015

Rusty!
Aug 25, 2005

Play Up Pompey
Pompey Play Up
My Nexus 6 arrived. It's a loving monster.

Nice though.

chocolateTHUNDER
Jul 19, 2008

GIVE ME ALL YOUR FREE AGENTS

ALL OF THEM
Honestly, good for Blackberry and finally making a flagship phone with Android. More manufacturers/competition is always needed to push the likes of Samsung/LG along.


Realistically though...nobody is gonna buy that thing. Blackberry's reputation in the consumer space is pretty tarnished at this point.

Captain Yossarian
Feb 24, 2011

All new" Rings of Fire"
Hmm yes I wonder why TAIWAN would have a problem with a Chinese tech company.... :)

Alan_Shore
Dec 2, 2004

Depending on reviews I might get the Priv. I want that keyboard and I don't care who knows it.

SB35
Jul 6, 2007
Move along folks, nothing to see here.

TollTheHounds posted:

Blackberry Priv can shoot 4k ( who cares ) and comes with "SafeGuard" for security.

http://mobilesyrup.com/2015/10/06/blackberry-priv-can-shoot-4k-video-and-will-come-with-blackberry-safeguard/

Maybe the one thing that might make me still consider this Blackberry is their "security" angle if it's legit. But if you look at the screenshot in that article, it's just a loving gauge that tells you if you have Dev options enabled, device encryption turned on, and a screen lock. I suppose it's convenient if you just don't know about poo poo like that but it really doesn't offer any sort of extra security if you already have all that poo poo enabled/disabled anyway.

Security related, as I'm hovering over the checkout button for this gargantuan 6P, is that apparently Huawei sold lovely routers a few years back and other chinese items like irons & kettles come pre-hacked from the factory. An example is an iron with an unadvertised WiFi chip in it that scanned for open networks and then dialed back to China for...profit? Probably old news ( 2012/2013 ) but I'd never heard of it. This is probably just :911: and everything is made in China anyway, and a lot of poo poo has changed in 3 years.

"The most controversial routers come from Chinese telecom companies ZTE and Huawei. The House Intelligence Committee released a report in October 2012 warning American businesses to avoid the two companies due to security risks. Similar warnings against Huawei, in particular, have been upheld by governments around the world, including in Taiwan and Australia.

“China is known to be the major perpetrator of cyber espionage, and Huawei and ZTE failed to alleviate serious concerns throughout this important investigation,” said Mike Rogers, chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, in a press release. “American businesses should use other vendors.”

Huawei has launched a public relations campaign to fire back, yet independent research has only justified concerns. Just prior to the report from the House Intelligence Committee, in July 2012, security researchers at hacker conference Defcon uncovered critical, and extremely basic, vulnerabilities in Huawei routers.

“This stuff is distrusting,” Dan Kaminsky, a well-known security researcher, told International Data Group News Service. “If I were to teach someone from scratch how to write binary exploits, these routers would be what I’d demonstrate on.”"

http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/366229-pre-hacked-electronics-come-straight-from-chinas-factories/

The Epoch Times is a major China and Chinese Communist party hater. They continually spread FUD regarding China and Chinese companies.

However I'm sure that Huawei isn't completely innocent. Fortunately there's probably enough eyes on this device that any kind of rootkit out spying will be outed pretty quickly.

WattsvilleBlues
Jan 25, 2005

Every demon wants his pound of flesh
http://www.xperiablog.net/2015/10/07/sonys-concept-for-android-marshmallow-available-to-try-for-10000-users-be-quick/

For the Xperia Z3 or Z3 Compact users, you can try to get access to Marshmallow early test builds.

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


Honestly, it's a bit of a hypocritical stance to take decrying Chinese goods for potential spying concerns when the NSA routinely intercepts network equipment shipments to install hardware bugs in them.

Everyone is spying on everyone. Any anonymity you feel is pure illusion.

Thermopyle
Jul 1, 2003

...the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt. —Bertrand Russell

bull3964 posted:

Honestly, it's a bit of a hypocritical stance to take decrying Chinese goods for potential spying concerns when the NSA routinely intercepts network equipment shipments to install hardware bugs in them.

Everyone is spying on everyone. Any anonymity you feel is pure illusion.

I'm not espousing this position, but it's not really inconsistent to not care if the USA spies on you while at the same time caring if the Chinese spy on you.

pun pundit
Nov 11, 2008

I feel the same way about the company bearing the same name.

It is if you don't live in the USA.

Sidesaddle Cavalry
Mar 15, 2013

Oh Boy Desert Map
when are america and china gonna fight

The Ass Stooge
Nov 9, 2012

a hunger uncurbed
by nature's calling

Thermopyle posted:

I'm not espousing this position, but it's not really inconsistent to not care if the USA spies on you while at the same time caring if the Chinese spy on you.

Why not?

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


Thermopyle posted:

I'm not espousing this position, but it's not really inconsistent to not care if the USA spies on you while at the same time caring if the Chinese spy on you.

Maybe not, but it's far more likely that my own government is going to do something actionable with that data than the Chinese.

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

Why would the Chinese care about what WiFi networks your iron is near? How would it even report this valuable info back to the motherland

:tinfoil:

Thermopyle
Jul 1, 2003

...the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt. —Bertrand Russell

pun pundit posted:

It is if you don't live in the USA.

Sure, or dozens of other "ifs". That's not really relevant to the point I was making though.


Why not what?


bull3964 posted:

Maybe not, but it's far more likely that my own government is going to do something actionable with that data than the Chinese.

Sure, I agree, but there's certainly a commonly held view of the world wherein being OK with the NSA having your bits and not being OK with "China" having your bits is not hypocritical.

Sidesaddle Cavalry
Mar 15, 2013

Oh Boy Desert Map
Help, I think I'm lost, is this even the right thread



Would anyone care to explain how Samsung would possibly benefit from splitting up its next flagship line into both Exynos and Snapdragon 820 models? Has there been any precedent for this? Why different processors for different markets? Wouldn't it make more sense to pick the better chip and stick with it?

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

They've done it before

repiv
Aug 13, 2009

In the past they've done it because Snapdragon chips had superior LTE support for some markets, not sure if that's the reason for their next flagships split though.

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!

bull3964 posted:

Maybe not, but it's far more likely that my own government is going to do something actionable with that data than the Chinese.

Simple solution - look at the nastiest, most disgusting yet still legal porn you can on your phone. Eventually the poor bastard who has to look through all the logs is gonna be like "You know what, gently caress this. I'm moving to Alaska and raising llamas."

FlyingCheese
Jan 17, 2007
OH THANK GOD!

I never thought I'd be happy to see yet another lubed up man-ass.
I'm trying to back up my pictures manually (not using Google Photos) before upgrading to M final from the Dev Previews and I'm just not finding them when I'm exploring the file system on a Windows machine. They are not in either DCIM or Pictures folders no matter how I mount the phone MTP or PTP. The details menu of an image in the Google Camera app says it's in /storage/emulated/0/DCIM/Camera but nothing is there when viewed on a computer. What is going on?

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

MTP is a pain. Better off downloading them with AirDroid or something that can actually see the filesystem for reals

The Ass Stooge
Nov 9, 2012

a hunger uncurbed
by nature's calling

Thermopyle posted:

Why not what?

Why isn't it inconsistent to be bothered by the Chinese government possibly spying on you, but not bothered that the American government is doing the same?

Kaiju Cage Match
Nov 5, 2012




Sidesaddle Cavalry posted:

when are america and china gonna fight

2077

LuckyCat
Jul 26, 2007

Grimey Drawer
Is voice recognition determined through software or hardware? My Note 5 has no problem picking up "Farnswood Lane" when I say it into Google Maps, but my wife's iPhone doesn't understand when you say the same thing into Google Maps. Hers picks up "Farnsworth" or "Barnswood" every single time. Is it because Google Maps isn't as good on Apple or because her microphone is older and not as good or something?

Looten Plunder
Jul 11, 2006
Grimey Drawer

FlyingCheese posted:

I'm trying to back up my pictures manually (not using Google Photos) before upgrading to M final from the Dev Previews and I'm just not finding them when I'm exploring the file system on a Windows machine. They are not in either DCIM or Pictures folders no matter how I mount the phone MTP or PTP. The details menu of an image in the Google Camera app says it's in /storage/emulated/0/DCIM/Camera but nothing is there when viewed on a computer. What is going on?
I don't know, but i did some searching for you and solution seems to be to create a new folder on the phone, find the photos in question and select "Share" and move it to the created folder. You might need a File Manager app on the phone to do this.

screaden
Apr 8, 2009
So I just switched back to Android after two years of iOS. I'm slowly getting used to it again (spent forever trying to find the alarm volume, nearly blew out my ears yesterday morning) but for the life of me cannot find a mark all as read option in the gmail app. Does it even exist? Doing a Google search can't give me a straight answer or gives me information for a previous version. On LG G4 if that helps

repiv
Aug 13, 2009

Droid Washington posted:

Is voice recognition determined through software or hardware? My Note 5 has no problem picking up "Farnswood Lane" when I say it into Google Maps, but my wife's iPhone doesn't understand when you say the same thing into Google Maps. Hers picks up "Farnsworth" or "Barnswood" every single time. Is it because Google Maps isn't as good on Apple or because her microphone is older and not as good or something?

With the exception of always-listening hotwords like "OK Google" all voice recognition is offloaded to the cloud. If Google Maps is using the native API for voice it will be processed by Apples servers instead of Googles on iOS.

Needless to say Apple has a lot less experience with that kind of thing :v:

repiv fucked around with this message at 00:56 on Oct 8, 2015

FlyingCheese
Jan 17, 2007
OH THANK GOD!

I never thought I'd be happy to see yet another lubed up man-ass.

xcore posted:

I don't know, but i did some searching for you and solution seems to be to create a new folder on the phone, find the photos in question and select "Share" and move it to the created folder. You might need a File Manager app on the phone to do this.

Yeah, this is basically what I ended up doing. I just moved the Camera folder out of the DCIM folder using ES File Explorer and found them right away. WTF Google.

DoYouHasaRabbit
Oct 8, 2007
How does the Marshmallow update work? I have a Nexus 6 and saw that it released a few days ago and it still hasn't showed up on my phone. Does the update come randomly or does it depend on when you got the device or something?

DemonMage
Oct 14, 2004



What happens in the course of duty is up to you...
It depends on your luck of the draw. And your carrier. Updates go out in waves, and this also applies to Google's own app releases too. So if your carrier has said they've started pushing it out, and you haven't seen it in say... two weeks then I'd worry something is up. Otherwise just wait. Especially for the 6, there isn't a huge change going to Marshmallow.

You could also just go flash the update manually, though by default that'll wipe your device.

Thermopyle
Jul 1, 2003

...the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt. —Bertrand Russell

The rear end Stooge posted:

Why isn't it inconsistent to be bothered by the Chinese government possibly spying on you, but not bothered that the American government is doing the same?

It can be inconsistent, or it can not. Some people trust the NSA to get the terrorists and think that them foreigners are going to steal our babies.

ClassActionFursuit
Mar 15, 2006

Rusty! posted:

My Nexus 6 arrived. It's a loving monster.

Nice though.

Had you never seen one in person before? Because yeah, it's bigger than you think.

That having been said now that I'm used to Wear I'm not as married to the notification light as I used to be so I've been considering that Nexus 6 but I just can't bring myself to do it.

UnfortunateSexFart
May 18, 2008

𒃻 𒌓ð’‰𒋫 𒆷ð’€𒅅𒆷
𒆠𒂖 𒌉 𒌫 ð’®𒈠𒈾𒅗 𒂉 𒉡𒌒𒂉𒊑


Does the 6P have an LED? I'm guessing not.

Watches softened the blow for me too.

FunOne
Aug 20, 2000
I am a slimey vat of concentrated stupidity

Fun Shoe

Reverse Centaur posted:

Does the 6P have an LED? I'm guessing not.

Watches softened the blow for me too.

If only that kind of information was listed in the specs of the device.

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





So, I think I'm just going to keep my N5 for now. It still runs great, is getting Marshmallow, and has wireless charging. Plus the built-in magnets make for a kick-rear end magnetic car dock. I feel almost lost. Am I... going to keep my phone for 2 more years? It's not even about the money, it's good enough / borderline better than current alternatives. I feel like my inner child is dead.

UnfortunateSexFart
May 18, 2008

𒃻 𒌓ð’‰𒋫 𒆷ð’€𒅅𒆷
𒆠𒂖 𒌉 𒌫 ð’®𒈠𒈾𒅗 𒂉 𒉡𒌒𒂉𒊑


FunOne posted:

If only that kind of information was listed in the specs of the device.

Some sites say it does (I think they mean the flash LED), some say it doesn't, I can't find a video or photo that shows the light. Maybe instead of being a sarcastic shitposter you could be helpful.

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ilkhan
Oct 7, 2004

I LOVE Musk and his pro-first-amendment ways. X is the future.

Reverse Centaur posted:

Does the 6P have an LED? I'm guessing not.

Watches softened the blow for me too.
Yes. It does.

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