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Yeah, for all people say "Miller cracked on 9/11", all the stuff he gets called out for now is right there in the old stuff too. Except that in the older material you got the sense that the pervy stuff was him working out some inner conflict over women in power, wheras now it's pretty much an old dude wanting to jerk off to coeds.
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I thought I was in the MGS thread for a while and that post confused me greatly.
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Oct 7, 2015 01:55
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Kaz never hid his desire to jerk off to jailbait.
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Boss........ I wrote a comic with Wonder Woman calling some random guy a "sperm bank". Come back to base when you can to check it out.
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Chinaman7000 posted:Boss........ I wrote a comic with Wonder Woman calling some random guy a "sperm bank". Come back to base when you can to check it out. He said Miller, not Huey.
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Senior Woodchuck posted:The cracks are visible in Dark Knight Returns, really. We should just admit that Miller hasn't been all there since the early 90s. This explains why his Robocop films completely ignored the unexpectedly clever (if utterly unsubtle) Christ figure narrative of the original, and instead harkened directly back to the "violence for violence's sake" action movies of the 1980s. When Miller snapped, he simply stopped processing pop cultural and social norms, and instead filled that section of his mind with thoughts he finds comforting in what he believes to be a bleak violent world: Jingoism, xenophobia, and misogyny. These negative impulses, though socially repugnant, provide Miller with a feeling of control. And then Al Qaeda blew up what little sanity he had left along with the World Trade Center on 9/11. Poor guy. Poor, crazy guy. ImpAtom posted:He said Miller, not Huey. This is just like one of my Japanese animes! ecavalli fucked around with this message at 03:18 on Oct 7, 2015 |
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Gaz-L posted:Yeah, for all people say "Miller cracked on 9/11", all the stuff he gets called out for now is right there in the old stuff too. Except that in the older material you got the sense that the pervy stuff was him working out some inner conflict over women in power, wheras now it's pretty much an old dude wanting to jerk off to coeds. Nah, comics very slowly tried to get away from being the place dudes go to jerk off to co-eds with the thinly veiled it's not porn delusion. Miller didn't change, the world did.
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SirDan3k posted:Nah, comics very slowly tried to get away from being the place dudes go to jerk off to co-eds with the thinly veiled it's not porn delusion. Que Mark Miller walking a desolate waste land from Fallout. "Comics never change."
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That's unfair. He can write women as slutty journalists or slutty crime bosses or dominatrices or misandrists or strippers!
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Oct 7, 2015 15:30
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I think focusing on his ideas towards women really doesn't grasp the really deep reasons that Frank Miller is nuts. Even Dark Knight Returns has a weird fascination with vigilante justice because everyone else just DOESN'T SEE THE TRUTH, some people are BAD and we've got to stop them if the government WON'T because they're all weak-willed PANSIES.
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theflyingorc posted:I think focusing on his ideas towards women really doesn't grasp the really deep reasons that Frank Miller is nuts. Also the liberals who think that they can reform criminals, when in fact they just want to kill everyone.
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Oct 7, 2015 15:51
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The doped up crazy man wrapped in the American flag in DKR was Frank Miller's self insert, and we're only just now realizing it.
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We've had it backwards all along. ASBAR isn't a satire... and neither is DKR!
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What other comics guys went insane after 9/11?
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Batton Lash, though I think it may have been Obama rather than 9/11, not sure how far back his batshittery goes
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zoux posted:What other comics guys went insane after 9/11? I dunno, but Art Spiegelman released his 9/11 book a year after and critics lambasted it for being too "whimsical" amidst the horror, which led to some people asking the critics "did you stupid fucks even READ Maus?"
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Someone needs to post the pocket burger scene from SW 6.
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It really is crazy how hard Americans took 9/11. It was a great tragedy, but for a few years it seemed like a lot of people were acting like it was THE tragedy that eclipsed all other tragedies in human history, and anyone who was even slightly perceived as not giving it proper reverence was a communist terrorist traitor.
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My favourite incident around that was Gilbert Gottfried doing a gag about it at a roast, and the whole crowd turned on him... so he launches into a version of The Aristocrats as a counterpoint. Basically an "Oh really, you fucks, processing tragedy via humour is offensive? I'll give you OFFENSIVE"
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Gaz-L posted:My favourite incident around that was Gilbert Gottfried doing a gag about it at a roast, and the whole crowd turned on him... so he launches into a version of The Aristocrats as a counterpoint. Basically an "Oh really, you fucks, processing tragedy via humour is offensive? I'll give you OFFENSIVE" I saw that in The Aristocrats movie. The 9/11 joke is actually not bad; he talks about having to fly in the morning and being nervous because he has to catch a connecting flight at the Empire State Building. (The crowd's reaction is understandable, since it was like two weeks after.)
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Lurdiak posted:It really is crazy how hard Americans took 9/11. It was a great tragedy, but for a few years it seemed like a lot of people were acting like it was THE tragedy that eclipsed all other tragedies in human history, and anyone who was even slightly perceived as not giving it proper reverence was a communist terrorist traitor. I've honestly been trying to avoid getting confrontational with you recently, but seriously, go gently caress yourself.
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Skwirl posted:I've honestly been trying to avoid getting confrontational with you recently, but seriously, go gently caress yourself. Right back at ya!
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Lurdiak, a play in 2 acts "Why are people on this forum so MEAN to me??  "~ some time later ~ "People totally overreacted to 9/11, it wasn't THAT bad, c'mon." fin
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Travis343 posted:Lurdiak, a play in 2 acts "America ove-reacted to 9/11" is like the least provocative thing I've ever said on these forums. I don't know what your weird problem with me is, but you come across like a stupid rear end in a top hat every time you post at me. Why don't you go complain about Vampirella's new costume some more?
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Well then. How about those funny comic panels, friends. Marvel Now What #1 
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Edits, obviously, but I don't think we have Ruin the moment anymore. 
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Travis343 posted:Lurdiak, a play in 2 acts He is a 100% right on this occasion.
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Skwirl posted:I've honestly been trying to avoid getting confrontational with you recently, but seriously, go gently caress yourself. 
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Doesn't Magneto literally want to eliminate all homo sapiens? And hasn't Doom probably subjugated and killed more people in his lifetime? What odd inclusions.
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I can't see how people can read The Dark Knight Returns and not see it as the conservative Ayn Rand love song that it is. Seriously, Frank Miller is a great artist and a lovely writer. Batman becomes John Galt at the end of it.
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Calaveron posted:Doesn't Magneto literally want to eliminate all homo sapiens? And hasn't Doom probably subjugated and killed more people in his lifetime? What odd inclusions. We went over all this not so long ago in the chat thread, but Juggernaut is in that panel and he literally knocked down one of the towers once. 
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Hollismason posted:. Seriously, Frank Miller is a great artist and a lovely writer. Batman becomes John Galt at the end of it. Have you read his Daredevil run?
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I've read the entirety of Frank Miller's Daredevil work and it does not age well.
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SilverSupernova posted:Well then. How about those funny comic panels, friends. Is this better or worse than Who Won't Wield the Shield? Because that's the bar we measure against.
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Lurdiak posted:We went over all this not so long ago in the chat thread, but Juggernaut is in that panel and he literally knocked down one of the towers once. We can't see his face in the Spider-Man panel. Maybe he's smiling wistfully.
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Juggernaut taking down one of the towers, until 9-11, was the second biggest moment in that comic. People were apeshit about Shatterstar stabbing Juggernaut in the eye.
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Hollismason posted:I've read the entirety of Frank Miller's Daredevil work and it does not age well. Wrong-o. 
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