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Ghost of Reagan Past posted:Patriarchy hurts everyone. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tV29aD7dFI
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LeJackal posted:We do not want to start detailing the many times that a single individual killed dozens (sometimes hundreds) of their fellow humans with non-firearm implements. It is a depressing and sobering list. Be glad that here in the states what is possibly the least effective tool for mass murder is selected. Haha, this bullshit line of thought almost always naturally leads to retarded arguments about how dangerous things like bats and knives are. The fear mongering about how dangerous knives and bats are naturally devolves to the point where any rational person starts thinking "Wait, if these things are so dangerous, why do people bother using guns?"
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Oct 7, 2015 17:07
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Yes, I have often I have thought whilst cutting vegetables, or wanting to go into the centre of town - y'know what would make cutting these carrots/get me into town faster? A gun.
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Oct 7, 2015 17:14
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The fun fact about cars, bats, knives, and fires is they have a purpose besides killing people. Like, aside from bs target pistols and stuff, guns are made for the express purpose of perforating human beings.
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Samovar posted:Yes, I have often I have thought whilst cutting vegetables, or wanting to go into the centre of town - y'know what would make cutting these carrots/get me into town faster? A gun. You sound troubled.
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gradenko_2000 posted:What the hell did I just watch One of the best shows that was ever on television.
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Edminster posted:One of the best shows that was ever on television. Which I had completely forgotten about for years. Gonna marathon the crap out of it in the coming week or so.
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Oct 7, 2015 17:34
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Popular Thug Drink posted:or in other words a lot of these dudes could get laid if they lowered their standards a bit. elliot roger was pretty hopelessly weird and angry but a lot of his frustration stemmed from a lack of sex overall but in his own words, the only sex he wanted was from wealthy white models. the same constant display of extraordinarily attractive women as the baseline of female beauty that drives many women's lack of self esteem and positive body image also drives many men to pursue an unrealistically high standard of female beauty in a partner I don't believe he ever approached any woman, but just stewed in his own head. The problem wouldn't have been solved by him "lowering his standards." Besides, women can smell "serial killer" which is why most of the bastards target prostitutes who can't get away or phone the police. Even an ugly chick doesn't want to get chopped up and stored in Elliot's fridge.
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Popular Thug Drink posted:a large portion of this is overt commercial sexualization of the female body, many men drive themselves nuts trying to score more desirable women than they can reasonably form relationships with out of a need for external validation because having sex with or dating an attractive women brings positive social benefits to males independent of the relationship itself BarbarianElephant posted:Besides, women can smell "serial killer" which is why most of the bastards target prostitutes who can't get away or phone the police.
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Doctor Butts posted:Haha, this bullshit line of thought almost always naturally leads to retarded arguments about how dangerous things like bats and knives are. The fear mongering about how dangerous knives and bats are naturally devolves to the point where any rational person starts thinking "Wait, if these things are so dangerous, why do people bother using guns?" That's why we shower America with guns, guns, guns everywhere so potential killers will take the bait and be drawn to them instead of much more lethal methods, which is why America has the lowest rates of homicides and mass shootings in the entire developed world
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Guavanaut posted:iow put depo provera in the water supply. I'd support that. Depo provera put my wife in a depression spiral that almost ended our marriage. No thanks.
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Wow LeJackal, I was hoping you'll show an instance where someone managed to hit like a hundred people with a rock or something, but instead you go for something else that's obviously extremely dangerous and needs to be heavily regulated, and still killed less people than guns in total this year in the US. What next, 'we're nice enough not to ask for nukes, why can't we have the guns?'
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Kit Walker posted:Depo provera put my wife in a depression spiral that almost ended our marriage. No thanks.
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Zanzibar Ham posted:Wow LeJackal, I was hoping you'll show an instance where someone managed to hit like a hundred people with a rock or something, but instead you go for something else that's obviously extremely dangerous and needs to be heavily regulated, Gasoline and matches needs to be heavily regulated? (Also, the claim was comparing mass murder body counts.) Zanzibar Ham posted:still killed less people than guns in total this year in the US. What next, 'we're nice enough not to ask for nukes, why can't we have the guns?' Also, the claim was comparing mass murder body counts. Keep shifting those goalposts. Popular Thug Drink posted:a large portion of this is overt commercial sexualization of the female body, many men drive themselves nuts trying to score more desirable women than they can reasonably form relationships with out of a need for external validation because having sex with or dating an attractive women brings positive social benefits to males independent of the relationship itself As usual, old white heterosexuals are to blame.
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LeJackal posted:Gasoline and matches needs to be heavily regulated? (Also, the claim was comparing mass murder body counts.) Those things aren't, fire is. It is in fact possible to use both those things without starting a fire. LeJackal posted:Also, the claim was comparing mass murder body counts. Keep shifting those goalposts.. No, the claim was comparing the dangers posed by FIREarms to those posed by other things. e: and really, the fact you wrote that guns are "possibly the least effective tools" for mass killing just shows how screwed up your thinking is Zanzibar Ham fucked around with this message at 21:44 on Oct 7, 2015 |
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gradenko_2000 posted:What the hell did I just watch Dino Stamatopolis wasn't exactly in the best place emotionally when he made the last couple of seasons of Moral Orel.
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muscles like this? posted:Dino Stamatopolis wasn't exactly in the best place emotionally when he made the last couple of seasons of Moral Orel. Moral Orel is a great example of the Bush years and the fears from around than of Republicans just controlling everything forever
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remember when 600 people died in a nightclub fire and america collectively agreed it was terrible and that sweeping changes to how buildings were constructed, decorated, and used were passed to prevent it from happening again? yeah, too bad the american pro-arsonist lobby said that americans had a right to live in shoddy flammable dwellings
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Guns can't love you back the same way we can love you, LeJackal. Man, Moral Orel was so good. I've never seen something turn from crap into pure gold as suddenly as that show did.
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Wanamingo posted:Guns can't love you back the same way we can love you, LeJackal. I'm just glad we can all come together and be awesome the way we do. 
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Wanamingo posted:Guns can't love you back the same way we can love you, LeJackal. Like 12oz Mouse? Or Squidbillies?
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Popular Thug Drink posted:remember when 600 people died in a nightclub fire and america collectively agreed it was terrible and that sweeping changes to how buildings were constructed, decorated, and used were passed to prevent it from happening again? yeah, too bad the american pro-arsonist lobby said that americans had a right to live in shoddy flammable dwellings the National Fertilizer Association is still reeling from the 90s
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LeJackal posted:Gasoline and matches needs to be heavily regulated? (Also, the claim was comparing mass murder body counts.) You know, LeJackal is right. Using this example proves one thing and one thing alone will stop this. The guns aren't killing people, the bullets are. We can let people have as many guns as they want. They just can't get bullets. Problem solved and everyone is happy forever. To add into the sweetness above, for what its worth LeJackal, I respect your opinion and you as a person. I just disagree.
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Popular Thug Drink posted:a large portion of this is overt commercial sexualization of the female body, many men drive themselves nuts trying to score more desirable women than they can reasonably form relationships with out of a need for external validation because having sex with or dating an attractive women brings positive social benefits to males independent of the relationship itself misogyny kills men feel entitled to women's bodies and attention. Patriarchal media and misogynist echo chambers like reddit tell him in no uncertain terms that women are objects, not people, and if he doesn't "own" one (a very narrow subset of the right kind of one mind you) he is worthless as a man. When women refuse*, this us what happens. http://whenwomenrefuse.tumblr.com/ *or, in the case of Elliot Rodgers, they don't even refuse, because he never asked. He thought hot blonds should just beg at his feet. He specifically said that he hated women in his manifesto, and we still got weeks of the media going BUT WHY DID HE DO IT?
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Defenestration posted:misogyny kills Well now I'm totally depressed. Maybe we should change the second amendment to only apply to women
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Defenestration posted:misogyny kills when women say no to a guy they're not interested in: "it's your fault for being rude! c'mon just give him a chance!" when women are polite to a guy they're not interested in: "it's your fault for leading him on like that!"
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LeJackal posted:Gasoline and matches needs to be heavily regulated? (Also, the claim was comparing mass murder body counts.) If only those terrorists had had easy access to guns, then they never would have killed all those people 
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I've been reading this thread for the last ~50 pages in search of something which would make me feel disgust for humankind rather than cynical resignation. Hit the nail on the loving head, here.
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It's more like one guy having a ladder that's ten times as tall as the hole and nine guys having no ladder, and then cutting the ladder into ten pieces that are all the height of the hole.
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You're all forgetting the motto of this thread. Shut the gently caress up, LeJackal.
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VitalSigns posted:
That is, in fact, how one might interpret socialism, if one were a dummy.
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Socialism: known for its opposition to solidarity, organization, coordination, and mass action. The original ladder isn't even as tall as the cliff it fails on every level imaginable.
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VitalSigns posted:
I'm assuming they both can't use the ladder, so this comic is saying that for one to succeed, the other has to be left to die in a hole. And that's preferable to working together to get out.
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BUBBA GAY DUDLEY posted:I'm assuming they both can't use the ladder, so this comic is saying that for one to succeed, the other has to be left to die in a hole. And that's preferable to working together to get out. Look if one provides help to someone else, then
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VitalSigns posted:
Two members of the proletariat struggle to move a ladder to the edge of the hole they're in. While they're preoccupied with pulling the heavy ladder, a member of the bourgeoisie runs up and saws the ladder in half. Undeterred the two workers search for a crack or crevice that they can use to escape from the pit of capitalism.
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VitalSigns posted:
The two men in the first panel have struggled to escape the pit, which represents the state of the proletariat's status as an oppressed under class trapped and forced to sell their labor and toil endlessly. Over a long period of time they accumulated enough resources to attempt to climb out of the pit, and when they neared their goal the bourgeoisie is introduced in the second panel. Here we can see he controls the tools and means of production, and he uses them in such a way as to prevent the proletariat masses from escaping his exploitation. The artist may have also meant to use a saw to display how the bourgeoisie use the force of the state to further the status quo. In the third panel we see that the bourgeoisie has left and the proletariat have been led back to their frail attempts to climb to an escape, still unable to do so. The person who posted this cropped out the fourth panel, where the proletariat recognize that only through reclaiming the means of production can they truly reclaim what is theirs by right and be free, and so they beat the bourgeoisie into submission and take the saw that is rightly theirs; in addition that the saw is the state, now in the hands of the working class. 
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