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ulvir posted:I'm rooting for Kjell Askildsen and Knausgård, but I'm biased because "we" haven't won one since the 1920s No love for Per Peterson?
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Earwicker posted:if you broaden that "we" just a little bit to Scandinavians then "you've" won most of them we love hating eachother up here so the Danes and Swedes don't count Burning Rain posted:Knausgård is the popular name but as far as Norwegian writers go people seem to talk about Dag Solstad as the biggest candidate. altho it seems solstad has relatively few but very vocal fans. haven't read him or askildsen tho In Norway at least Dag Solstad is probably among the most well-known authors. He's won pretty much as many awards as Jon Fosse has. He's a good contender too, I have to admit. Burning Rain posted:by the way, you might know: what is it with Fosse and 'yes' repeated at every sentence? is it supposed to be actual 'ja' or whatever it is in Danish or more like 'mhm' agreement sound? or is it just his tick and nobody actually talks like that? It's used both literally, as "yes" or "mhm", but it's also a very common filler-word in speech. Mel Mudkiper posted:No love for Per Peterson? Haven't read him yet, actually. edit: It would own if Jon Fosse would win a prize, but I think he's more recognised for his theatre dramas internationally, if I'm not mistaken? ulvir fucked around with this message at 21:56 on Oct 7, 2015 |
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Oct 7, 2015 21:54
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ulvir posted:we love hating eachother up here so the Danes and Swedes don't count I was just remembering that Swedish character in Kingdom who would stand on top of the hospital with binoculars looking at Sweden and talking about how much better they are than the Danes.
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Mel Mudkiper posted:I was just remembering that Swedish character in Kingdom who would stand on top of the hospital with binoculars looking at Sweden and talking about how much better they are than the Danes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYHn8H9O5Qk
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Oct 7, 2015 22:06
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in other words, picked up a copy of Knausgård's latest book Om høsten (translated as In the autumn). according to rumors he has a chapter dedicated to urine.
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Oct 7, 2015 22:36
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Ngugi should win
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J_RBG posted:Ngugi should win He's cool.
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ulvir posted:in other words, picked up a copy of Knausgård's latest book Om høsten (translated as In the autumn). according to rumors he has a chapter dedicated to urine. Haven't heard about this, what's it about? How long is it? I assume you got a Norwegian version? Ahhh I can't wait for My Struggle 5 and 6 to be translated, and now he has another book out already to look forward to.
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Oct 8, 2015 02:08
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Hm about 6 hours til they announce the Nobel... I'll throw my hat in the ring and say Peter Nadas
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J_RBG posted:Ngugi should win Ngugi wa Thiong'o posted:In an interview with Swedish news agency TT in 2013, when asked who should win the Nobel Prize, he said that he would like to give it to himself. but yeah, he's cool. 'Grain of Wheat' (w/ marxist edits) is powerful stuff.
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also, Nobel prize comittee just posted this on FB: https://www.facebook.com/nobelprize/photos/a.164901829102.119895.81239734102/10153155952709103/?type=3&theater so... Alexievitch, Nawal el Saadawi, Maryse Conde and Joyce Carol Oates seem to be most popular women candidates at bookies. After Munro and Modiano I don't think they'd choose culturally quite close writers such as Conde or Oates. El Saadawi seems to tick too many boxes (liberal muslim, feminist in a sexist country, Arab writer), but maybe they do want to be seen as a prize with political message once again.
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:Haven't heard about this, what's it about? How long is it? I assume you got a Norwegian version? Ahhh I can't wait for My Struggle 5 and 6 to be translated, and now he has another book out already to look forward to. It's the first of a series of four novels which consists of letters to his as of yet unborn daughter, each named after the seasons. There's a new one coming in Norwegian already next month. From what I've read so far (started last night) its mostly musings about different things in the world, combined with a bit of introspective reflection and so on. Like that urine chapter was both like "have you ever thought about how much we pee? why do we take this bodily function for granted but not the others" and then he (the narrator) goes on to talk about something he remembered from his childhood. These are not nearly as long as the My Struggle books. Don't know when they'll be translated to English, though. v  v
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Oct 8, 2015 08:59
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I'm reading Gravity's Rainbow now and one thing I've learned about Pynchon from 49 and V. Is you can't ever hope to parse all the data he's throwing at you. Just drift through the myriad tangential micro fictions and groknwhat you can, go ahead and read several pages and forget everything from sentence to sentence even. Eventually dots sort of start to connect. You can't hope to get it all now so get what you can. Eventually it starts to accumulate.
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As smart as Pynchon is, and as much as he seems to know every thing ever it's still a lot of trivia, and at the end of the day dudes just stoned as hell. He doesn't hold any great secret of life he's hiding, he's just presenting every possible route towards his ideas with as much detail that makes the scene both physical, psychological and anchored in time and place as he can. Pynchon is all about scene and setting, but the setting is as prone to be psycho-sexual as geographical.
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I really didn’t get Crying of Lot 49 (the only Pynchon I’ve read). I feel like it was maybe deeply rooted in a certain way of American culture to the point where I felt like I was standing outside pointing through the glass and scratching my head. I usually like his kind of style and was really looking forward to it, so I was disappointed, but I just got nothing from the book at all.
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Oct 8, 2015 11:59
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Holy poo poo, Svetlana actually won the Nobel.
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Yeah she seems really interesting. Excited to start reading her today. So the two big ones seem to be Zinky Boys and Voices from Chernobyl. Anyone have a recommendation> Mel Mudkiper fucked around with this message at 12:21 on Oct 8, 2015 |
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Oct 8, 2015 12:14
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I wrote about Second-Hand Time earlier in the thread, but I think you can pick the book on whichever topic interests you more. She's a worthy winner, I guess, but for some reason I feel underwhelmed with the choice. Didn't feel the book I read added much to the topic that hadn't been said a hundred times before. Hope it's not a return of the witness literature with the new head of the prize committee.
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Oct 8, 2015 12:34
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does anyone want to talk about Chretien de Troyes & Celtic sources for le Chevalier de la Charrette bc i want to talk about that
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End Of Worlds posted:does anyone want to talk about Chretien de Troyes & Celtic sources for le Chevalier de la Charrette There's http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3617881#post427361837 but that's a more general thread
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Lunchmeat Larry posted:I really didn’t get Crying of Lot 49 (the only Pynchon I’ve read). I feel like it was maybe deeply rooted in a certain way of American culture to the point where I felt like I was standing outside pointing through the glass and scratching my head. I usually like his kind of style and was really looking forward to it, so I was disappointed, but I just got nothing from the book at all. I didn't really enjoy Lot 49 either but Gravity's Rainbow is really great and I'm reading V atm and while the first few pages didn't grab me and I was afraid it was going to be Lot 49 all over again Esther got a nose job and it was a fantastic chapter and everything since then has been good and I like it so maybe try some of his other stuff.
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Managed to grab a copy of Voices from Chernobyl and ordered Zinky Boys online. Just got done with the prologue to Chernobyl and I can already see why she won.
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Voices from Chernobyl seems hella interesting. I'm gonna keep an eye out for that one.
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A friend of mine read it and said it was good, but he's an idiot sooo
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She has a very admirable ability to construct what is essentially a transcript into what comes off as a complete artistic work of prose.
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Robotnik Nudes posted:I'm reading Gravity's Rainbow now and one thing I've learned about Pynchon from 49 and V. Is you can't ever hope to parse all the data he's throwing at you. Just drift through the myriad tangential micro fictions and groknwhat you can, go ahead and read several pages and forget everything from sentence to sentence even. Eventually dots sort of start to connect. You can't hope to get it all now so get what you can. Eventually it starts to accumulate. Yeah a lot of websites about Pynchon treat him like he's this treasure trove of references you're supposed to decipher. I never felt that that was really the right way to read him, he was just a product of a certain time and subculture. My dad was born in the same year and also worked on boats and stuff and had a somewhat similar background, and he'd make the same kind of jokes and sing silly songs about Hitler's ballsack all day that you read in Pynchon. It's just a silent generation thing, they loved memes I think. That's probably also why he's popular with people who grew up with the internet. I like early Pynchon when he was still writing about the Watts riots and stuff. Inherent Vice is too Murakamilike.
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Shibawanko posted:It's just a silent generation thing, they loved memes I think.
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Voices from Chernobyl is an incredible book and is seriously one of the most moving pieces of work I have ever read. It's better than almost anything ever. Well deserved.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:There's http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3617881#post427361837 but that's a more general thread can we bring this back chernobyl kinsman fucked around with this message at 13:38 on Oct 9, 2015 |
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Robotnik Nudes posted:As smart as Pynchon is, and as much as he seems to know every thing ever it's still a lot of trivia, and at the end of the day dudes just stoned as hell. He doesn't hold any great secret of life he's hiding, he's just presenting every possible route towards his ideas with as much detail that makes the scene both physical, psychological and anchored in time and place as he can. Pynchon is all about scene and setting, but the setting is as prone to be psycho-sexual as geographical. Pick up the weisenburger companion sometime after you're done and give it a re-read, and you'll discover that the book is actually super tightly-constructed.
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Nanomashoes posted:Pick up the weisenburger companion sometime after you're done and give it a re-read, and you'll discover that the book is actually super tightly-constructed. Yeah, my first attempt to get through GR I took the approach of just trying to let it wash over me and hoping things would start to make some sense eventually. The second time I came back with some chapter summaries and it was much more enjoyable actually knowing what the hell was going on and being able to see the structure as a whole.
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Nanomashoes posted:Pick up the weisenburger companion sometime after you're done and give it a re-read, and you'll discover that the book is actually super tightly-constructed. I can appreciate that it is and sometimes my dumb brian sees the connections, there's just so many and trying to understand them all is, to a degree, like trying to get through a single wiki page while also clicking and reading every single linked article.
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its been a while since ive read anything substantive so i went and bought: chronicle of a death foretold by gabriel garcia marquez falconer by john cheever straight man by richard russo mr vertigo by paul auster sabbaths theater by philip roth half of a yellow sun by chimamanda ngozi adichie blow up and other stories by julio cortazar new yorker stories by ann beattie labyrinths by jorge luis borges the collected stories by amy hempel excited to start digging in but i dont know which one to start with!! Radio Spiricom fucked around with this message at 00:48 on Oct 14, 2015 |
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Oct 14, 2015 00:46
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I say Chronicle of a Death Foretold because I'm reading One Hundred Years of Solitude, by the same guy.
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Marlon James won the Man Booker Prize last night. Anybody read anything by him / know anything about him beyond what the newspapers were saying ("He is a Jamaican" seemed to be their line)
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Radio Spiricom posted:its been a while since ive read anything substantive so i went and bought: Labyrinths owns
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Finished Knausgård's latest novel, and it made me hungry for more. I think I'm gonna start on the first book of My Struggle either a wee bit later this year, or from january onwards.
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J_RBG posted:Marlon James won the Man Booker Prize last night. Anybody read anything by him / know anything about him beyond what the newspapers were saying ("He is a Jamaican" seemed to be their line) Read A Brief History of Seven Killings earlier this year. Its hard to separate "He's Jamaican" from his writing since its all done in thick Jamaican dialect. I thought the writing was beautiful but I also wondered how much of that was my white rear end going "wow, how exotic." He def earned the win though
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Mel Mudkiper posted:I also wondered how much of that was my white rear end going "wow, how exotic." I was fearing that that was the crusty critics too. But I'll give him a go, probably.
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