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So is anything about the leadership fight/vote going to show up on CSPAN in the next three hours? Need to know if I should clear my schedule.
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Erick, son of Erick has a novel idea...
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Blah that's kind of an anti-climax, I guess we just don't get a new speaker until January. But wait, don't we still need a new House Majority Leader? Would Boehner be able to just keep bringing CRs to the floor or would that cause damage somehow?
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greatn posted:They should just draft Paul Ryan. You can vote for whoever the gently caress you want you don't need their permission. He wants to spend time with his family? Boohoo so do millions of people working the minimum wage. You take this lovely job Paul Ryan. Electing a Speaker in the finest Westminster tradition.
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BUBBA GAY DUDLEY posted:I will never get over the fact that a guy with gray hair was called a "young gun". Some people "pre-maturely" go grey. It's not strictly and old people thing. But yeah you've got a point when dudes in their 40s are considered young noobs compared to the rest of your party.
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Nancy Pelosi negotiates Democratic votes to a majority for a moderate republican on the 7th ballot in exchange for eliminating the hastert rule and placing democrats in senior committee positions.
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So we either end up with a crazy from the Tortilla Coast Raiders or someone elected with the support of Pelosi and the democrats. The former of which is catastrophic, and the latter of which will get nothing done because the base will refuse to work with anyone who came to power by the democrats' blessing. God help us all.
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http://m.speaker.gov/press-release/statement-speaker-boehner-speaker-election Boehner is sticking around until the GOP get its poo poo together (Jan 2017)
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Nintendo Kid posted:Nancy Pelosi negotiates Democratic votes to a majority for a moderate republican on the 7th ballot in exchange for eliminating the hastert rule and placing democrats in senior committee positions. Freedom Caucus acts like every thing is going according to plan.
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Wait, what even changes in January? It's still all the same crazies isn't it?
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Artix posted:So we either end up with a crazy from the Tortilla Coast Raiders or someone elected with the support of Pelosi and the democrats. The former of which is catastrophic, and the latter of which will get nothing done because the base will refuse to work with anyone who came to power by the democrats' blessing. I think the most likely outcome is still that the Tea Coast people get some level of concessions and show their strength and then allow some establishment goon to get the spot. Although of course it would be an even more obvious poisoned chalice than it already is, at that point.
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pathetic little tramp posted:Wait, what even changes in January? It's still all the same crazies isn't it? New Congress from 2016 election
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Nintendo Kid posted:Nancy Pelosi negotiates Democratic votes to a majority for a moderate republican on the 7th ballot in exchange for eliminating the hastert rule and placing democrats in senior committee positions. the hastert rule does't exist as a rule what you'd have to eliminate is the ability of the speaker to wield absolute control over what bills make it to the floor of the house
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Oct 8, 2015 18:57
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This country was nuked four years ago and we are all living in Boehner's personal hell but don't know it.
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BUBBA GAY DUDLEY posted:I will never get over the fact that a guy with gray hair was called a "young gun". Anyone who hasn't yet secured their k street golden parachute is a young gun. It's less a vision than it is an auction advertisement.
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What are the chances of the republicans being fractured enough that Pelosi steals it
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Mel Mudkiper posted:What are the chances of the republicans being fractured enough that Pelosi steals it Zero, because the winner requires an absolute majority. Republicans would have to vote for her. It's why a handful of Republicans can block McCarthy - by voting for someone else they deny him enough votes for the absolute majority.
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Ohtsam posted:New Congress from 2016 election Oh January 2017 Sweet Jesus, what a loving mess.
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Mel Mudkiper posted:What are the chances of the republicans being fractured enough that Pelosi steals it Zero. You have to get to 218. Pelosi isn't getting dozens of GOP votes.
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Mel Mudkiper posted:What are the chances of the republicans being fractured enough that Pelosi steals it She can't win a majority. The only way that happens is if the Republicans decide to change the rule to only require a plurality, and then their vote gets split on the floor and Pelosi wins. But then she immediately loses a vote of no confidence.
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Mel Mudkiper posted:What are the chances of the republicans being fractured enough that Pelosi steals it It's not a plurality, it's a majority. In other words, thirty Republicans would need to affirmatively vote for her.
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pathetic little tramp posted:Oh January 2017 Sweet Jesus, what a loving mess. it would be super bad for the GOP presidential aspirations if there is a year long internecine fight over essentially governance hanging over the campaign
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Bob Ojeda posted:It's not a plurality, it's a majority. In other words, thirty Republicans would need to affirmatively vote for her. Republicans can be pretty spiteful - wouldn't be hilarious if they did it as a gently caress you to the tea partiers and a directive to get in line, then no-confidenced her out and replaced her with their pick? Would take someone with a good media presence to orchestrate and sell though so it's plain not happening, not in campaign season.
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Bob Ojeda posted:It's not a plurality, it's a majority. In other words, thirty Republicans would need to affirmatively vote for her. And the chances of that today are nill. If there is still no Republican leadership in 2016 then we can start discussing the odds.
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Bob Ojeda posted:It's not a plurality, it's a majority. In other words, thirty Republicans would need to affirmatively vote for her. Or a dozen more of them could be conveniently so beaten up in unrelated incidents that they can't show up to vote.  evilweasel posted:the hastert rule does't exist as a rule The implication is that the new guy has to promise not to use the hastert rule as a guiding principle for bills, else he risks getting toppled.
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Rep. Peter King tells me that members are crying in cloakroom, unable to handle the unrest and confusion. "A banana republic," he says. https://twitter.com/costareports/status/652181319590522880
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Hahahaha and now Russia is starting war with Iran. BUCKLE IN KIDS IT'S GETTIN GOOD
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GlyphGryph posted:Republicans can be pretty spiteful - wouldn't be hilarious if they did it as a gently caress you to the tea partiers and a directive to get in line, then no-confidenced her out and replaced her with their pick? Republican primary voters are brain-dead morons and would only understand that the incumbent being primaried voted for Pelosi as speaker and vote for the challenger.
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Bob Ojeda posted:It's not a plurality, it's a majority. In other words, thirty Republicans would need to affirmatively vote for her. Well, technically some Republicans could vote Present, right? Not that this is something that would actually happen.
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All Boehner wanted to do was drink himself to death before the holidays.
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You can trust that Ben Carson knows what to do in a mass shooting situation because someone pointed a gun at him in a Popeye's once.
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zoux posted:it would be super bad for the GOP presidential aspirations if there is a year long internecine fight over essentially governance hanging over the campaign Yeah and Boehner's announce just says he'll sticl around till it's clear they have a leader
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evilweasel posted:Republican primary voters are brain-dead morons and would only understand that the incumbent being primaried voted for Pelosi as speaker and vote for the challenger. The floor vote is a public roll-call vote, right?
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haveblue posted:You can trust that Ben Carson knows what to do in a mass shooting situation because someone pointed a gun at him in a Popeye's once. Ben Carson has poo poo taste in chicken.
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pathetic little tramp posted:Hahahaha and now Russia is starting war with Iran. BUCKLE IN KIDS IT'S GETTIN GOOD Do you mean Syria, or did I miss Putin really going to town on bombing countries today?>
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Zoran posted:The floor vote is a public roll-call vote, right? Yes. That's how we know who voted against Boehner last time.
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AhhYes posted:Rep. Peter King tells me that members are crying in cloakroom, unable to handle the unrest and confusion. "A banana republic," he says. FFS, you assholes brought this poo poo down on yourself and now you're crying because it's hard? gently caress you.
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