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Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




Smoking Crow posted:

I asked my classics professor and he didn't know the answer so here goes:

Did anyone in ancient Greece sacrifice to/hold festivals for/build temples to Hades? Did the Romans do the same for Pluto?
The Greeks didn't even want to use his name so I don't see why they would build temples for him.

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Deteriorata
Feb 6, 2005

Smoking Crow posted:

I asked my classics professor and he didn't know the answer so here goes:

Did anyone in ancient Greece sacrifice to/hold festivals for/build temples to Hades? Did the Romans do the same for Pluto?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Necromanteion

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ploutonion

Deteriorata fucked around with this message at 19:38 on Oct 8, 2015

verbal enema
May 23, 2009

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Jack B Nimble posted:

Thanks for the sa Mart coin link, I had no idea they were so affordable.

Yeah I wouldn't mind snagging one at those prices

Comrade Koba
Jul 2, 2007

While we're on the topic of collectible antiques, I got this ring fairly cheaply off of eBay a few years ago, from what seemed to be a reputable seller. The listing is long gone by now, but as I recall it was claimed to be from the period around 0-200AD. The curved lines on the front and side supposedly are meant to resemble a fish scale pattern. At the time I didn't care much, I just thought it was neat to own a piece of jewelry from ancient history that I could actually wear (it's a size 8).



Does anyone know of any online resource or whatever that could possibly tell me more about it? I've seen the same or very similar design on a lot of other rings from different sellers, so I guess it would have been at least fairly common.

a whole buncha crows
May 8, 2003

WHEN WE DON'T KNOW WHO TO HATE, WE HATE OURSELVES.-SA USER NATION (AKA ME!)

Comrade Koba posted:

While we're on the topic of collectible antiques, I got this ring fairly cheaply off of eBay a few years ago, from what seemed to be a reputable seller. The listing is long gone by now, but as I recall it was claimed to be from the period around 0-200AD. The curved lines on the front and side supposedly are meant to resemble a fish scale pattern. At the time I didn't care much, I just thought it was neat to own a piece of jewelry from ancient history that I could actually wear (it's a size 8).



Does anyone know of any online resource or whatever that could possibly tell me more about it? I've seen the same or very similar design on a lot of other rings from different sellers, so I guess it would have been at least fairly common.

just searched for 'old rings' not recommended

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


That's pretty neat. I'd ask xenopus though he might have some good input.

Power Khan
Aug 20, 2011

by Fritz the Horse
One talent ballista



I've seen siege engines like that and trebuchets a few times now. Apparently there's quite a number of people building them.

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006

Nice, but that's a BuK TEL not a trebuchet. Common mistake.

Power Khan
Aug 20, 2011

by Fritz the Horse
What's a BuK TEL?

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006

Pictured above.

Power Khan
Aug 20, 2011

by Fritz the Horse
I didn't write that this is a trebuchet, but stated that there's many people building siege engines and that I've seen lots of pics of all kinds of them lately.

my dad
Oct 17, 2012

this shall be humorous

JaucheCharly posted:

I didn't write that this is a trebuchet, but stated that there's many people building siege engines and that I've seen lots of pics of all kinds of them lately.

He made a really bad joke about a type of Russian StA missile launcher.

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006

my dad posted:

He made a really bad joke about a type of Russian StA missile launcher.

Future historians will exfoliate me.

HEY GUNS
Oct 11, 2012

FOPTIMUS PRIME

Arglebargle III posted:

Future historians will exfoliate me.
exonerate

my dad
Oct 17, 2012

this shall be humorous

HEY GAL posted:

exonerate

defenestrate :colbert:

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


my dad posted:

defenestrate :colbert:

demonstrate :toughguy:

Power Khan
Aug 20, 2011

by Fritz the Horse
Speaking of which, are there actually any laws prohibiting people from having siege engines in their backyards?

Deteriorata
Feb 6, 2005

JaucheCharly posted:

Speaking of which, are there actually any laws prohibiting people from having siege engines in their backyards?

Obviously depends on where you live, but there are probably zoning laws that would prohibit such structures, or perhaps being a public menace or something. If people don't want it around, they'll find some law it would fit under.

Jamwad Hilder
Apr 18, 2007

surfin usa
Probably? I googled around and couldn't find anything specific, but logically it would seem like the police/local government wouldn't be ok with an average resident having ballistae and catapults.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe
Most likely it would be regarded as a permanent structure you built without a permit, which is likely a code violation, and may additionally violate height regulations.

A Strange Aeon
Mar 26, 2010

You are now a slimy little toad
The Great Twist
I feel like I ask these types of questions a lot and most people don't think it's as important as I seem to think, but it has again to do with a translation--I'd like to read the 1,001 Nights. I know those aren't ancient history exactly, but figured someone here would know of a good version. Is Burton the go-to?

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006

HEY GAL posted:

exonerate

Exarchate

9-Volt Assault
Jan 27, 2007

Beter twee tetten in de hand dan tien op de vlucht.

A Strange Aeon posted:

I feel like I ask these types of questions a lot and most people don't think it's as important as I seem to think, but it has again to do with a translation--I'd like to read the 1,001 Nights. I know those aren't ancient history exactly, but figured someone here would know of a good version. Is Burton the go-to?

The Burton version is by now too old to really be worth it anymore.

Penguin published a new translation less than 10 years ago, by Malcolm C. Lyons and Ursula Lyons, in three books. They are pretty good.

There is also a two book version by Mahdi and Haddawy which is also supposed to be really good, but i havent read that one.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Show me in the rulebook where it says I can't have a ballista.

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

Grand Fromage posted:

Show me in the rulebook where it says I can't have a ballista.

if its on wheels you are fine

Keldoclock
Jan 5, 2014

by zen death robot

exsanguinate.

Even if there were no laws, your local Homeowner's Association (if you have one) would surely crucify you. Not military history, but god drat if these institutions are still around in 150 years someone should take up arms.

↓↓↓↓ Edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_Hat_Riot

I guess the modern Homeowner's Association is kind of a similar thing as the old fashioned pitchfork mob, some sort of enforcement of status quo where public shaming fails to work.

Edit 2: Now that I've thought about it some more and spent some time reading about historical unrest, I have some questions about historical uses of military forces as police, something which is commonly referred to but rarely described in detail. For starters, where is the line between police and military, in those situations where it can become ambiguous? What do military commanders do when they have to interact with police forces? Are there any records, recent or historical, of police being conscripted wholly unto a military force and used in combat? When garrisons are left in a city, how much autonomy do they have and how beholden are they to powerful civilians in the city prior to occupation?

Keldoclock fucked around with this message at 02:54 on Oct 11, 2015

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe
A bunch of us states either effectively bar HOAs or limit their legal powers so much that they can't gently caress with you. In many cases the only places they can have any real power are in condo developments, their tyranny is pretty much neutered in detached housing.

Did any ancient peoples have equivalents of HOAs in I guess the cities?

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006

Keldoclock posted:

exsanguinate.

Even if there were no laws, your local Homeowner's Association (if you have one) would surely crucify you. Not military history, but god drat if these institutions are still around in 150 years someone should take up arms.

Homeowners' Associations aren't actually empowered to do crucifixions, just beheadings and quartering in some states IIRC. Common mistake.

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


you have a ballista if they re bothering you over stupid poo poo you start rangefinding on the heads yard and give them real problems

verbal enema
May 23, 2009

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JaucheCharly posted:

One talent ballista



I've seen siege engines like that and trebuchets a few times now. Apparently there's quite a number of people building them.

da heck does this thing fire

hailthefish
Oct 24, 2010

verbal enema posted:

da heck does this thing fire

Railroad ties?

Terrible Opinions
Oct 18, 2013



Nintendo Kid posted:

A bunch of us states either effectively bar HOAs or limit their legal powers so much that they can't gently caress with you. In many cases the only places they can have any real power are in condo developments, their tyranny is pretty much neutered in detached housing.

Did any ancient peoples have equivalents of HOAs in I guess the cities?
Many of the McMansion housing developments in various suburbs have them too.

Slim Jim Pickens
Jan 16, 2012

verbal enema posted:

da heck does this thing fire

Talents

MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

verbal enema posted:

da heck does this thing fire

Rocks, cows, Volkswagens.

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


Would be fun to build a small one until it breaks on you showering splinters and high tension rope all over the place.

Deteriorata
Feb 6, 2005

LingcodKilla posted:

Would be fun to build a small one until it breaks on you showering splinters and high tension rope all over the place.

That's why you wait for the neighbors to get one and use theirs.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
Who / what was the incident that precipitated the creation of the Cursus Honorum?

I could've sworn there was a particular guy somewhere between the Gracchi Brothers and Julius Caesar that rose up the ranks so quickly that they did it as a reaction so that it wouldn't happen again, along with making it so that the Tribune of the People was a dead end job, but that Dan Carlin episode was a long time ago.

WoodrowSkillson
Feb 24, 2005

*Gestures at 60 years of Lions history*

gradenko_2000 posted:

Who / what was the incident that precipitated the creation of the Cursus Honorum?

I could've sworn there was a particular guy somewhere between the Gracchi Brothers and Julius Caesar that rose up the ranks so quickly that they did it as a reaction so that it wouldn't happen again, along with making it so that the Tribune of the People was a dead end job, but that Dan Carlin episode was a long time ago.

No time for the long answer, but the short answer is Sulla instituted the Cursus Honorum to prevent anyone else from having a similar path to power that he himself did. He felt he was stabilizing the Republic. So basically the even that precipitated it is the civil war between Sulla and Marius.

fantastic in plastic
Jun 15, 2007

The Socialist Workers Party's newspaper proved to be a tough sell to downtown businessmen.
My understanding is that Sulla reformed it, but the system of offices had existed for quite some time.

(One of his particular reforms was to remove most of the powers associated with the Tribune of the People, but these were restored 15 years later -- only to have the office eroded further in the general chaos surrounding the end of the Republic.)

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Terrible Opinions
Oct 18, 2013



Tao Jones posted:

My understanding is that Sulla reformed it, but the system of offices had existed for quite some time.

(One of his particular reforms was to remove most of the powers associated with the Tribune of the People, but these were restored 15 years later -- only to have the office eroded further in the general chaos surrounding the end of the Republic.)
All of the individual offices existed pre-Sulla but the specific requirements and order were created by Sulla.

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