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Three Olives posted:Serious question, if Boehner gives a poo poo about his party and the country why not pass a clean CR and a clean debt limit increase into 2017, both would easily pass with democratic votes, step down and let the battle royal begin without any chance that it seriously damages the party with a default or government shutdown? It's possible that he might, especially if the chaos in the GOP caucus is particularly bad. But doing that would make any chaos worse and badly breach the trust between establishment and Tortilla Coast members of the House. Frankly, all of Boehner's options are bad, and we get to watch him try to navigate the shitstorm and laugh.
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# ? May 27, 2024 02:41 |
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It's a shame that the DNC is ran by loving DWS or we could make bank off this.
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# ? Oct 8, 2015 20:30 |
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GlyphGryph posted:Republicans can be pretty spiteful From several pages ago, but I'd like to nominate this for "Most Staggering Understatement of the Thread." SpiderHyphenMan posted:So how far away are we from Obama holding a press conference about this clusterfuck? "We go now live to the White House briefing room, where for the last fifteen minutes the president has been laughing non-stop and, wait, I'm getting an update here-President Obama has just stopped for breath and, gasping between guffaws and leaning heavily on the podium, was heard to say 'Seriously? Seriously?!' before lapsing into continual laughter once more."
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# ? Oct 8, 2015 20:31 |
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Or as Brian Beutler puts it: Mods, please rename 'a shameful boehner' to 'a reckless cowardly shameful boehner'.
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# ? Oct 8, 2015 20:32 |
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quote:National Review's Rich Lowry asked McCarthy if the House was governable.
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# ? Oct 8, 2015 20:32 |
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Zeroisanumber posted:But doing that would make any chaos worse and badly breach the trust between establishment and Tortilla Coast members of the House. Why would he care? He's gone. Maybe after taking the loaded weapon away from the Freedom Caucus they could actually get stuff done without them threatening to go nuclear on every issue.
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# ? Oct 8, 2015 20:34 |
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Now we just need the moment of clarity.
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# ? Oct 8, 2015 20:34 |
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Wait, is the Republican party now made up of the Tortillas, the Tea party and the Establishment? What a clusterfuck.
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# ? Oct 8, 2015 20:35 |
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quote:At this point, Congress accomplishes little more than the bare minimum required to maintain status quo governance.
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mcclay posted:Wait, is the Republican party now made up of the Tortillas, the Tea party and the Establishment? What a clusterfuck. The Tea party is the Tortillas.
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# ? Oct 8, 2015 20:36 |
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A Winner is Jew posted:The Tea party is the Tortillas. Not sure if that makes me feel better or worse.
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# ? Oct 8, 2015 20:36 |
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More of the above:quote:Of course, this won’t ever happen. Partisan realities are solidified. But that is ultimately the source of the Freedom Caucus’ power.
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# ? Oct 8, 2015 20:37 |
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:More of the above: Yes, poo poo is so bad I'd be thrilled to have a compromise speaker that can just maintain the status quo.
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# ? Oct 8, 2015 20:37 |
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The Rock Bottom Caucus has a nice ring to it
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# ? Oct 8, 2015 20:38 |
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:So how far away are we from Obama holding a press conference about this clusterfuck? don't touch the poop
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# ? Oct 8, 2015 20:39 |
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The government can't even keep proud American institution Something Awful running.
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# ? Oct 9, 2015 03:04 |
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I didn't have the forums to keep me from crying in the cloak room
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# ? Oct 9, 2015 03:05 |
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I blame the GOP for our forums shutdown.
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# ? Oct 9, 2015 03:07 |
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Boehner is staying on until there is somebody who can get 218 votes, even if they have to rely on democrats to get them.
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# ? Oct 9, 2015 03:07 |
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While we were out...
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# ? Oct 9, 2015 03:09 |
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spazzhole posted:The Rock Bottom Caucus has a nice ring to it Caaaaan youuuuu smellllllllllllalala what the tortilla coast.... Is cookin?
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# ? Oct 9, 2015 03:10 |
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I'm waiting for the first Tea Partier to scream bloody murder about Charlie Dent.
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# ? Oct 9, 2015 03:11 |
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Ohtsam posted:Boehner is staying on until there is somebody who can get 218 votes, even if they have to rely on democrats to get them. Months later, Bernie and Trump clinch the nominations of their respective parties.
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# ? Oct 9, 2015 03:12 |
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What about Dennis Hastert? He has the necessary experience and knows how to wrangle children.
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# ? Oct 9, 2015 03:13 |
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So we have no idea who the next Speaker will be, no idea if they'll be a raving lunatic and less then month to raise the debt ceiling. Just keeps getting better and better.
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# ? Oct 9, 2015 03:17 |
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I want more Dems to start trolling like this.
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# ? Oct 9, 2015 03:17 |
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Frabba posted:Does this even matter after the DoJ also cleared the officer of wrongdoing? Yes. He should've been disbarred, but standards in the legal profession are too much to ask for.
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# ? Oct 9, 2015 03:18 |
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Never thought I'd see the day when people were begging Paul loving Ryan to take the job of majority speaker and I was hoping they succeeded.
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# ? Oct 9, 2015 03:18 |
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Zeroisanumber posted:It's possible that he might, especially if the chaos in the GOP caucus is particularly bad. But doing that would make any chaos worse and badly breach the trust between establishment and Tortilla Coast members of the House. What reason does Boehner have to care about chaos in the GOP anymore? If he's the kind of person who can be inspired by the pope to quit being the speaker hopefully his conscience won't let him allow a default either.
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# ? Oct 9, 2015 03:20 |
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Fojar38 posted:Never thought I'd see the day when people were begging Paul loving Ryan to take the job of majority speaker and I was hoping they succeeded. Why would you want someone sane in the job.
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# ? Oct 9, 2015 03:26 |
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spazzhole posted:The Rock Bottom Caucus has a nice ring to it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGt4TL5sJbA ROCK BOTTOM
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# ? Oct 9, 2015 03:27 |
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Fojar38 posted:What reason does Boehner have to care about chaos in the GOP anymore? Presumably because Boehner needs a functioning republican party for him to lobby when he goes into the private sector.
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# ? Oct 9, 2015 03:29 |
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Caros posted:Presumably because Boehner needs a functioning republican party for him to lobby when he goes into the private sector. Unless his reputation becomes "Speaker that could have stopped the great default catastrophe of 2015 but didn't"
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# ? Oct 9, 2015 03:30 |
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I mean as this dumpster fire intensifies, Ryan's gotta start changing his mind, right? I imagine they're going to be leaning on him hard no matter how shermanesque he is.
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# ? Oct 9, 2015 03:33 |
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I thought Paul Ryan was spending his time in the desert until after the Clinton presidency ended.
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Goddamn has this been hilarious. Dumpster fire is definitely the best description.zoux posted:I mean as this dumpster fire intensifies, Ryan's gotta start changing his mind, right? I imagine they're going to be leaning on him hard no matter how shermanesque he is. He has to realize that being speaker would be a dead-end career move right? There is no way you can hold that position and not piss off the whackjobs too much to ever get another run at president.
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# ? Oct 9, 2015 03:41 |
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I thought the Tea Party didn't like Paul Ryan anymore.
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# ? Oct 9, 2015 03:41 |
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Lycus posted:I thought the Tea Party didn't like Paul Ryan anymore. IF McCarthy dropped out because of the infidelity rumors preventing him from getting to 218, then the TEA party doesn't matter anymore. Boner himself has been saying only Ryan can get to 218, which means he's written off the extremist faction entirely.
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# ? Oct 9, 2015 03:43 |
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So did McCarthy just drop his campaign because he realized the Speakership is a bag of flaming dogshit that Boehner is trying to re-gift him?
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# ? Oct 9, 2015 03:44 |