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Crows Turn Off posted:Yennefer is Geralt's girlfriend in my playthrough (first encounter and said I still liked her after the spell was lifted, haven't had the second encounter yet). I haven't done the High Stakes quest yet, and apparently you get to sleep with Madame Sasha during it. Does that ruin things with Yennefer at this point? Only thing is telling Triss you love her. Geralt and Yen don't see each other for months/years all the time so don't see dalliances as A Thing
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WoodrowSkillson posted:Only thing is telling Triss you love her. Geralt and Yen don't see each other for months/years all the time so don't see dalliances as A Thing That reminds me, in the (fan translation of) the last book, Geralt lies to Yen about having been with other women while she was rotting away in a dungeon. I guess this is the result of an unsubtle translation, and the complete lack of emotional attachment made it not really a lie?
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WoodrowSkillson posted:Yes Really? The Witcher 2 would have been better if you had large open areas to run around in, collect endless smuggler caches, clear bandit camps over and over again? The Witcher 3 would have been worse if Novigrad didn't have a thousand houses of which less than 1% actually matters? It makes for some great visuals no doubt but all those things have to come at the expanse of other things. Development resources aren't infinite after all. Quality over quantity.
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Oct 8, 2015 16:59
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I was perfectly happy with how Witcher 3 turned out.
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GreenNight posted:I was perfectly happy with how Witcher 3 turned out. It's a fantastic game, one of my all time top 10 easily BUT I still would have preferred a smaller but more polished world.
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Senjuro posted:Really? The Witcher 2 would have been better if you had large open areas to run around in, collect endless smuggler caches, clear bandit camps over and over again? The Witcher 3 would have been worse if Novigrad didn't have a thousand houses of which less than 1% actually matters? It makes for some great visuals no doubt but all those things have to come at the expanse of other things. Development resources aren't infinite after all. Quality over quantity. The Witcher 3 gave quality and quantity so I'd say it turned out quite well. Like seriously, dude, I understand not liking the open-world trend but this is not the hill you want to die on.
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Oct 8, 2015 17:04
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The Smuggler Caches in Skellige are pretty dumb, but the rest of the open world features I thought were done amazingly. I even loved Skellige itself and enjoyed sailing around for its own sake. If anything they should've just had way fewer things to collect in Skellige. I don't think anyone would've minded.
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Oct 8, 2015 17:09
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Senjuro posted:It's a fantastic game, one of my all time top 10 easily BUT I still would have preferred a smaller but more polished world. You have the option to explore or not to explore. Options are good.
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Oxxidation posted:The Witcher 3 gave quality and quantity so I'd say it turned out quite well. CDPR did manage to strike a better balance than just about everyone else that tried but hearing that Cyberpunk is going to be "far, far, bigger" doesn't fill me with excitement, it fills me with dread. The cost/value ratio of these open worlds is just not worth it. GreenNight posted:You have the option to explore or not to explore. Options are good. The options come at the cost of having less but more polished options which is generally what I'd prefer. edit: VVVV Hope you're right. Senjuro fucked around with this message at 17:22 on Oct 8, 2015 |
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Oct 8, 2015 17:20
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They might not mean that the map is gonna be far far bigger, just the story.
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Senjuro posted:Really? The Witcher 2 would have been better if you had large open areas to run around in, collect endless smuggler caches, clear bandit camps over and over again? The Witcher 3 would have been worse if Novigrad didn't have a thousand houses of which less than 1% actually matters? It makes for some great visuals no doubt but all those things have to come at the expanse of other things. Development resources aren't infinite after all. Quality over quantity. Witcher 2's dressed up hallway exteriors pale in comparison to Witcher 3's. Walking around outside Flotsam was frustrating in how it limited how you could walk around. It felt like Dragon Age with how exteriors were done. Having more open and realized areas to explore would have only been more fun given the Witcher's emphasis on Geralt's wandering hero nature. Novigrad's size is wonderful as for once the main city in a game actually feels like a big, bustling city. Its not Skyrim where 25 people represent the population of a town supposedly of thousands. If anything had to be cut to improve Novigrad it would be some of Velen and maybe a Skellige island. I would not want Novigrad to be the size of Oxenfurt with better graphics. Witcher 3 is completely quality over quantity, they were just able to also give you an expansive map that is fun as hell to explore.
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On any other open world game I'd agree about quantity vs quality but this o e hit it so far our I'd the park with doing both that I don't think it's an issue.
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quote:Marcin Momot @Marcin360 3m3 minutes ago
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Holy motherfuck why is the patch so big? What are the highlights of the 15 page patch log? Can romance options really add that much more space? Or is it also including Hearts of Stone assets too?
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From the GameSpot review:quote:While many women in The Witcher 3 play minor roles, often supplemental to men, Shani is a vivid character in her own. I don't get this criticism/backhanded compliment at all. Especially when applied to the Witcher 3 specifically. I suppose there's always room for improvement, but which women were really only there to build up male characters?
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i wish i actually cared about the setting for CyberPunk witcher but as it is i have 0 interest in it and will not buy it.
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If any of the games' environments need polishing and condensing, it's Witcher 2's. Act 2 is pretty big, Geralt is pretty slow, there isn't a lot of stuff between objectives, and without a dedicated jump button, you have to follow the path and climb the lovely designated climbing ledges. I hate that. I don't want to be glued to the ground! I want to press B, spread my wings, and flyyyy~ FutonForensic fucked around with this message at 17:34 on Oct 8, 2015 |
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Oct 8, 2015 17:32
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Witcher 3 being open world is a great decision as Witcher 2's corridors and arenas weren't in any way good and makes the game feel limited in comparison. Sure I enjoyed it when I played it but after playing Witcher 3 I say gently caress off going back to that.
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Oct 8, 2015 17:39
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I didn't enjoy W1 and W2 at all. The announcement that W3 was open world is exactly what pulled me in and 3 is now one of my favorite games. I can't say I had any interest before I knew about that. But honestly open world games are by far my #1 and I can't think of any game series I would rather see linear vs open world.
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Witcher 1's areas feel great to me and are fun to explore I think (well, except the Swamp). Witcher 2 areas feels bad to me mainly because of how Geralt controls in that game. I'm in the camp of rather having smaller areas/no freeroaming type of stuff if it meant more interesting content/quests and getting rid of the '?' type of design.
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FutonForensic posted:If any of the games' environments need polishing and condensing, it's Witcher 2's. Act 2 is pretty big, Geralt is pretty slow, there isn't a lot of stuff between objectives, and without a dedicated jump button, you have to follow the path and climb the lovely designated climbing ledges. Now imagine they had the same amount of resources to polish and test a much bigger area. How many quality multi step quests would have to be split into shorter, more basic ones? On the flip side, as great as The Witcher 3 is (which is very) how much better would it have been if they'd taken some of the simpler quests, like most of the monster hunts, and instead combined them into fewer but more complex ones (provided they didn't have to fill up an area as big)? I feel like I'm starting to repeat myself and poo poo up the thread so I'll just say this: While The Witcher 3 is hardly an example of open world games forgetting about quality I think it could have been better still if the same resources it took to make it went into a smaller map. We'll obviously never know for sure but even for CDPR there has to be a breaking point and in the industry's collective rush to make worlds bigger and bigger I hope they don't cross it. Senjuro fucked around with this message at 18:02 on Oct 8, 2015 |
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I don't agree with you, it would be worse because the open world factor works in favor of it. You keep posting like that 'imagine if' scenario is objectively better but it isn't, it's a question of taste I guess.
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Ravenfood posted:On any other open world game I'd agree about quantity vs quality but this o e hit it so far our I'd the park with doing both that I don't think it's an issue. I feel like they did better than genre typical because open world is largely a bunch of smaller villages which makes it feel like organic countryside vs. just having 5 cities and 250 copy-paste dungeons the way some games do it.
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I think the open world really works with feeling like A Real Witcher. Travelling around to little villages and killing the local monster causing trouble is Geralts whole thing.
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pam pa-ram. pam PAM pa-RAM. Just recently finished Battle for Kaer Morhen and the Bald Mountain stuff. Holy gently caress balls awesome.
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patchlog posted:Removes ability to kill NPCs (including quest NPCs) using Dragon's Dream bomb Ok I gotta try this before the patch hits.
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Comte de Saint-Germain posted:Yenn and Geralt have a pretty open relationship, the only thing that will cause problems for you is telling other women that you love them. They don't actually. When they're together they're exclusive and the one time for each of them it didn't work out that way it made them both hosed up and guilty. They're just old and jaded and don't give a poo poo about what the other one does to meet their needs when they're broken up. WhiskeyWhiskers posted:From the GameSpot review: The Witcher is the dedicated "video game are hugely sexist and look how progressive we are for pointing it out" series because they will never ever live down the sex cards from the first game despite that they have much better female characters in both writing and presentation than pretty much any of their competitors.
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The Iron Rose posted:fair enough. Oh, now I'm sort of wondering this as well. I'd check if I weren't already headed for bed. Anyone know?
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Supreme Allah posted:pam pa-ram. Are we supposed to know what that song is? Or is it just made up?
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The Sharmat posted:They don't actually. When they're together they're exclusive and the one time for each of them it didn't work out that way it made them both hosed up and guilty. They're just old and jaded and don't give a poo poo about what the other one does to meet their needs when they're broken up. As depicted in the game, I think this is pretty clearly an open relationship, at least to a point. I think we can both agree that their facebook status would be "it's complicated".
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Strom Cuzewon posted:Are we supposed to know what that song is? Or is it just made up? I think it was originally supposed to be the melody to "poker face" but wound up just being improvised nonsense (it's funnier as improvised nonsense).
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Does it count as an open relationship when the main reason Geralt is getting away with it is that it never comes up?
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Oct 9, 2015 10:38
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Yen gets hers too, its not a one sided thing.
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Pwnstar posted:Yen gets hers too, its not a one sided thing. The key to her bedroom is a common item. 
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Patch 1.10 is live on Steam now and is 6.4 GBs. I think it's live on Galaxy too, but no idea about consoles yet. Patch notes here (grab a drink while you read them!)
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Helith posted:Patch 1.10 is live on Steam now and is 6.4 GBs. Patch is up on PS4. It's 17.2 GB.
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Oh jeez the patch is 17 GB on gog galaxy too. edit: though it might hop 6 or 7 GB automatically since it's only 10.3GB on gog itself.
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korrandark posted:Patch is up on PS4. It's 17.2 GB. i assume it has most of the expansion in it as well, and then buying it is a switch that flips?
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Yeah that's what I'm assuming too. I Should probably grab the season pass since I intend on playing it since Shani shows up. It'll be ahwile though since I'm only 13ish hours in/probably restarting since I forgot how to play the game over the 4 months I wasn't really able to go back to the game.
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