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hubris.height
Jan 6, 2005

Pork Pro

Minorkos posted:

To be fair

"By the way! This is the opposite of child porn, so it's A-OK to put in a video game! No problem!" is a hell of a line. You have to respect the audacity.

actually i don't

i don't have to respect anything that happened in that hour. no one has to, or should.

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Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty

Minorkos posted:

To be fair

"By the way! This is the opposite of child porn, so it's A-OK to put in a video game! No problem!" is a hell of a line. You have to respect the audacity.

wtf

Is that something Liam said, or the game? What?

Captain Baal
Oct 23, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022
The game actually says that

Phantasium
Dec 27, 2012

Wow I had heard it was bad but Jesus Christ.

Foxhound
Sep 5, 2007
Do the DR games generally have some sort of fourth wall-breaking awareness that it plays off of there or what? I can't believe it's the devs trying to justify the inclusion of the scene.

At least the child didn't get grabbed by the hands after the boss battle. :unsmith:

Depths
Apr 15, 2009

SENPAI
:cripes: Why did they lp this game

Blockhouse
Sep 7, 2014

You Win!
yes there's usually a decent amount of fourth wall breaking jokes in dangan ronpa

Captain Baal
Oct 23, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022
Hearing Liam try to be optimistic is the most annoying thing in this video. Like come on, dude, this is bad and it's not getting better.

Captain Baal
Oct 23, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022

Foxhound posted:

Do the DR games generally have some sort of fourth wall-breaking awareness that it plays off of there or what? I can't believe it's the devs trying to justify the inclusion of the scene.

At least the child didn't get grabbed by the hands after the boss battle. :unsmith:

DR games have a lot of gags where they joke about their roles in the story or how they're in a game, but they're usually pretty harmless and in good fun. Ultra Despair Girls does not have that same decency, unfortunately. That being said DR2 has a character who spent most of her life being abused and she uses her occupation as a nurse as a way to assert power over someone, so it's pretty bad sometimes even in those games.

Perfect Potato
Mar 4, 2009

Depths posted:

:cripes: Why did they lp this game

Because they're Woolie and Liam

Yardbomb
Jul 11, 2011

What's with the eh... bretonnian dance, sir?

"What I was going to say before I was so rudely interrupted by child abuse"

UltraDespairGirls.txt

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
I hate to say this. but they should really think about cancelling the UltraDespairGirls LP. It's beyond repair and it's actively hurting them far more than helping. ESPECIALLY after episode 16.

Foxhound
Sep 5, 2007
Well the episodes seem to be longer now, which I'm guessing is because they want to get it over with in a shorter amount of updates.

lets hang out
Jan 10, 2015

They should do that with mgs5 too

Yardbomb
Jul 11, 2011

What's with the eh... bretonnian dance, sir?

I wanna see this train wreck through to the very end, longer episodes only mean coming off the rails harder and faster :allears:

Dias
Feb 20, 2011

by sebmojo
Is the DR LP a blind one?

Yardbomb
Jul 11, 2011

What's with the eh... bretonnian dance, sir?

Dias posted:

Is the DR LP a blind one?

Pretty sure yeah, it was obvious with Woolie but the way Liam talks seems that way too.

Also god, Woolie dying during the molesty hands bit while Liam tries to deflect is great.

"It's loving nothing, it's a fun scene, that's all.."

Yardbomb fucked around with this message at 15:31 on Oct 9, 2015

Dias
Feb 20, 2011

by sebmojo

Yardbomb posted:

Pretty sure yeah, it was obvious with Woolie but the way Liam talks seems that way too.

Well, this answers 90% of the questions about it then.

HGH
Dec 20, 2011

Al-Saqr posted:

I hate to say this. but they should really think about cancelling the UltraDespairGirls LP. It's beyond repair and it's actively hurting them far more than helping. ESPECIALLY after episode 16.

It's basically done really, there's like, three 1 hour epiodes left if they don't dawdle, even if I include the 30 minute penultimate cutscene.

Captain Baal
Oct 23, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022
There are not three one hour episodes left, they are barely past the halfway point especially with the myriad of cutscenes left

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!
Fire emblem fates is too much, huh Liam

The Kins
Oct 2, 2004

Depths posted:

:cripes: Why did they lp this game
Because the company that made their website shot them a copy a bit before street date. This is probably why they're on Vessel now.

Commissar Ken
Dec 9, 2006

Children STILL love me, dammit!


Tae posted:

Fire emblem fates is too much, huh Liam

Ahaha, I forgot about that. Kid has a weeeeeird sense of appropriate or reasonable. Reminds me of the time he sat there and had a heated argument with everyone else about how DARE Nintendo take out the super skimpy rear end clothes in Bravely Default for characters who were supposed to be 15 years old. HOW DARE THEY!


Fuckin' yeesh.

cmykJester
Feb 16, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo
I can't wait for the Dangen Ronpa LP to be over. It's such a terrible boring game.

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!
Liam literally defended his devil's advocate last podcast as "It's not devil's advocate for the sake of it, I do it only when I really care about it"

Now rewind back to all the recent times he did devil's advocate including the recent DR episode

Just say you do it because you're a contradictory person because the other answer makes you a creep

lets hang out
Jan 10, 2015

Looking forward to the criminal girls 2 lp, you know, to get people into the series

Yardbomb
Jul 11, 2011

What's with the eh... bretonnian dance, sir?

I would be cool with a little strip of duct tape over Liam's mouth with "No" sharpie'd onto it by this point, at least until he gets some new material. Just stop, shut up, no, quit it.

Depths
Apr 15, 2009

SENPAI

lets hang out posted:

Looking forward to the criminal girls 2 lp, you know, to get people into the series

Criminal girls, the game so creepy that even NEOGAF banned discussion about it and made the site owner post that the vita is pretty much just a creepy trash platform

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!
never ever back down. ever.

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!

CJacobs posted:

never ever back down. ever.

I think even woolie would back down from a position that defends pedophilia

Dias
Feb 20, 2011

by sebmojo
Man, if the other guys registered accounts here this thread would have zero posts, hehe.


I'm fine with Liam, but he has...dissonant opinions, and he definitely doesn't like changes. I think the devil's advocate thing gets overblown here, tho. Every time there's an argument in the podcast, I read posts here and they make it seem like it was a 20min shouting match, when it's usually a couple of minutes of slightly more heated discussion. Which, by the way, happens amongst every member of the podcast, it's just that Liam's hills aren't that palatable.

Blockhouse
Sep 7, 2014

You Win!

Tae posted:

I think even woolie would back down from a position that defends pedophilia

dude's already gone "ehhhh" when Pat said Michael Jackson's legacy is forever tarnished

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!
I think the core of Liam's position on creepy anime bullshit(tm) is that it's okay in eastern countries, so why isn't it okay everywhere? But I don't think he quite understands that just because it's legally considered okay doesn't mean it's morally considered okay. The age of consent in a lot of Japanese prefectures is 16-ish (ish, the legal age in the country's basic law books is 13). And sure they are just drawings and aren't real people or in most cases aren't even based in reality at all, but it's the implication that they are supposed to represent real people that makes it just as wrong as it would be in real life. But even without considering sex itself, the sexualization of people around that age is a real thing not just exclusive to anime in eastern countries, and perpetuating that by saying "it's not that bad, like what you like" isn't such a good position to take.

CJacobs fucked around with this message at 16:36 on Oct 9, 2015

Dias
Feb 20, 2011

by sebmojo

CJacobs posted:

I think the core of Liam's position on creepy anime bullshit(tm) is that it's okay in eastern countries, so why isn't it okay everywhere? But I don't think he quite understands that just because it's legally considered okay doesn't mean it's morally considered okay. The age of consent in a lot of Japanese prefectures is 16-ish (ish, the legal age in the country's basic law books is 13). And sure they are just drawings and aren't real people or in most cases aren't even based in reality at all, but it's the implication that they are supposed to represent real people that makes it just as wrong as it would be in real life.

There's also a side of learning to "eat around" questionable things if you're into specific content, and getting defensive when other people would rather just see it excised from their meal. Geez, just calling out R.Mika's costume as a dumb thing led to a TON of "ironic" shitposting in the SFV thread here. The whole "well, it's fine there, it's how it works there, it's how it's always worked there" schtick is basically "eating around" morally dubious content, and everyone does it to a certain extent. It's just that, again, this specific case is a lot less palatable to start with.

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty

Depths posted:

Criminal girls, the game so creepy that even NEOGAF banned discussion about it and made the site owner post that the vita is pretty much just a creepy trash platform
So I don't have to Google that, what is criminal girls

Phantasium
Dec 27, 2012

Captain Invictus posted:

So I don't have to Google that, what is criminal girls

A lovely RPG where you take prisoners from hell which happen to be prepubescent anime girls on quests and oh, they don't follow the orders you give so you have to "punish" them in dicey cutscenes.

Liam thought it was ok. Okay enough to complete instead of flushing down a toilet.

Captain Baal
Oct 23, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022
Liam's arguments aren't lovely because he's defending morally questionable things, it's because he doesn't believe in the things he's saying and doesn't know how to actually argue in favor of something controversial.

Dias
Feb 20, 2011

by sebmojo

Captain Invictus posted:

So I don't have to Google that, what is criminal girls

It's a very lovely and creepy game. Emphasis on VERY. It has lolis and spanking. Liam played through it. If there's something there after you scrape the poo poo glazing, I couldn't tell you, tho.

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!

Baal posted:

Liam's arguments aren't lovely because he's defending morally questionable things, it's because he doesn't believe in the things he's saying and doesn't know how to actually argue in favor of something controversial.

It's basically this. He defends anything that a majority hates because the majority hates it. He bitched at pat when he made fun of umbrella chronicles.

He is counter culture in human form.

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Dias
Feb 20, 2011

by sebmojo
Also, I'm getting uncomfortable psychoanalzying someone that isn't even here in an internet thread, doubly so considering other people (including me) ate poo poo for tamer stuff, so I'm just gonna drop this.

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