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Habble, habitat? I just thought that the first time I read it, it seemed obvious. Do you guys ever speak to people who aren't American? Are you absolutely stumped if someone uses UK/AUS/SA/NZ slang? Can you not figure it out from context? (clearly you don't read Neal Stephenson or Gene Wolfe) edit: spire, what is a spire
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jivjov posted:People like to "bawl" orders, both in Alera and Aeronaut Using the word bawl in context with orders or just having someone a higher rank bawling out a lower rank is perfectly cromulent. It's fallen out of fashion for general speech these days but for the semi-Victorian/Edwardian/Olde English/whatever setting it's perfect and has embiggened my appreciation for Butcher's descriptions.  Oh and habble and other made up words worked fine for me, how are people having trouble? It was obviously a corruption of Habitat Level or something similar.
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Oct 6, 2015 09:58
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Is it good? Readable? Was looking at it in store today but I realised butcher isn't actually that good an author and I only like dresden because dresden.
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Oct 6, 2015 14:07
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Aeronaut's showed up. Haven't started it yet. I'm working my way through Atrocity Archives and there's stuff I like about it but, so far, it's not something of which I'd enjoy reading any future installments. While I appreciate the actual CS disciplinary name-drops and whatnot, the majority of the technical jargon they use feels super made-up and hand-wavey. It's gotten to the point that, when it starts happening, I just go into skim-mode and tune out for a page or two. Does he get away from that? Do things ever get more defined as to in-universe terminology and some concrete rules? Or does it continue to be "oh, we need a huge powerful super-computer driven laser array for this... except someone can completely defeat whatever threat we summon-up by clever use of their cell phone apps," ? Blasphemeral fucked around with this message at 16:24 on Oct 6, 2015 |
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Oct 6, 2015 14:24
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I liked it a lot. Some people ITT seem to be triggered by it though.
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Oct 6, 2015 14:28
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jivjov posted:People like to "bawl" orders, both in Alera and Aeronaut Still not nearly as bad as all the snarling people do in the Dresden Files.
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Oct 7, 2015 08:54
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I finished Skin Game. Loved it, especially the end with Butters becoming a Jedi Knight of the Cross. And now I have to wait. (I know, I know, quit my bitching, you guys have been waiting way longer. Just saying, sad to reach the end of the published books.)
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Oct 7, 2015 15:14
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Affi posted:Is it good? Readable? Was looking at it in store today but I realised butcher isn't actually that good an author and I only like dresden because dresden. Do you like cats? This is important. I liked it, but I liked Codex Alera more or less as well. Personally I thought it was an interesting premise with pretty varied characters. The 'hook' at the ending fell a bit flat for me but I suppose I'll still pick up the next book to see what happens.
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Oct 7, 2015 20:55
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Yeah, its kind of like Storm Front in that ends with some nebulous foreshadowing of Bad Things coming.
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Oct 7, 2015 22:00
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Read a bit more of Aeronaut..and I picked up on something that annoys me greatly. Butcher can't decide if he wants to use "Fleet" or "the Fleet". In one passage, someone talks about "the types of maps used by the Fleet", in another someone says that "they left Fleet for a reason" or somesuch. Poor editing? Or does this have significance later?
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Oct 8, 2015 03:21
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jivjov posted:Read a bit more of Aeronaut..and I picked up on something that annoys me greatly. Butcher can't decide if he wants to use "Fleet" or "the Fleet". In one passage, someone talks about "the types of maps used by the Fleet", in another someone says that "they left Fleet for a reason" or somesuch. I'd have to reread, but it may be individual characters or different groups speaking differently. Fleet, ex fleet, and civilians?
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Oct 8, 2015 03:26
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I haven't been cataloging who uses which usage...but my impression has been that it's random, and I think Captain Grimm uses both in the same paragraph once.
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Oct 8, 2015 03:35
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I think the Fleet refers to the organization and Fleet is usually used as an adjective
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Oct 8, 2015 03:56
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I don't care how good this book is or this series becomes, I will never be able to take a character named "Captain Grimm" seriously.
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Oct 8, 2015 04:07
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Ornamented Death posted:I don't care how good this book is or this series becomes, I will never be able to take a character named "Captain Grimm" seriously. Wait till he becomes Admiral, then he'll lead the Grimm Fleet.
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Oct 8, 2015 04:17
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There's talking cats, man. I don't think taking anything seriously was ever in the cards. Is the book worth setting aside time specifically to get through it? With my schedule at work these days and the fact that I've gone back to driving instead of taking transit (where I got the most reading done since it was a roughly 40 minute trip each way), I don't really have as much incidental time to read so I haven't gotten it yet.
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Oct 8, 2015 04:23
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RosaParksOfDip posted:There's talking cats, man. I don't think taking anything seriously was ever in the cards. I'm about 2/3 through the book on CD version, it's pretty good.
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Oct 8, 2015 04:55
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RosaParksOfDip posted:There's talking cats, man. I don't think taking anything seriously was ever in the cards. It's a fun read, so if you want some "decompression" reading this is not a bad choice (if you enjoy his other stuff). The audiobook may be more your speed for commuting, but I haven't heard anything regarding the audiobook. With the right narrator, the audio book could be pretty good.
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Oct 8, 2015 06:54
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Ornamented Death posted:I don't care how good this book is or this series becomes, I will never be able to take a character named "Captain Grimm" seriously. Mad Grimm, if we want to be informal.
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Oct 8, 2015 13:10
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At least he's not Grimm Dark. sorry
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Oct 8, 2015 13:21
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I've started The Rhesus Chart and I feel like I've missed something. Bob recalls being put on the management fast track at the end of The Fuller Memorandum but mentions that several events between then and now have derailed him from said track - have I missed a short story or a novella somewhere? I thought I'd read all the online stuff.
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Oct 8, 2015 13:39
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I'm sure this has been addressed, but I'm going to ask anyway. How is the Stormlight Archive? Should I bother starting it?
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Oct 8, 2015 13:58
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It's very Sanderson, so if you like his style you'll probably enjoy it. I really enjoyed it, outside of a couple things in the first book - Shallan trying to be witty, mostly.
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Oct 8, 2015 14:04
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Wheat Loaf posted:I've started The Rhesus Chart and I feel like I've missed something. Bob recalls being put on the management fast track at the end of The Fuller Memorandum but mentions that several events between then and now have derailed him from said track - have I missed a short story or a novella somewhere? I thought I'd read all the online stuff. I was also confused by that. Equiod was the only other published thing, so I don't know what this was supposed to be.
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Oct 8, 2015 14:18
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Rygar201 posted:I'm sure this has been addressed, but I'm going to ask anyway. How is the Stormlight Archive? Should I bother starting it? It's about as good as Sanderson gets. He actually put planning and effort into it as his flagship fantasy series, rather than writing all of it while being bored on a plane ride. Whether that's good enough for you, I dunno.
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Oct 8, 2015 14:22
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The Slithery D posted:I was also confused by that. Equiod was the only other published thing, so I don't know what this was supposed to be. Now, I know I've read Equoid - that's the one about the unicorns, isn't it? I suppose Stross has probably answered this question somewhere on his blog though I wouldn't know where to look for it.
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Oct 8, 2015 14:31
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Uh, have you read Apocalypse Codex? IIRC takes place inbetween these two.
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Oct 8, 2015 14:32
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Yes, I read that one last - looking back at my post, I got it mixed up with The Fuller Memorandum. 
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Oct 8, 2015 14:38
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anilEhilated posted:Uh, have you read Apocalypse Codex? IIRC takes place inbetween these two. Yeah, but he did great and got a promotion in that one.
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Oct 8, 2015 15:43
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Rygar201 posted:I'm sure this has been addressed, but I'm going to ask anyway. How is the Stormlight Archive? Should I bother starting it? Yes, but keep in mind the first chapter is basically a videogame tutorial and isn't really that great.
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Just finished Cinder Spires, and while I wasn't sold for the first few chapters, I -really- liked the book in the end. I'm with most people that found Gwen insufferable riiight up until she met Journeyman, and then those few short chapters were some of my favorite stuff. I'm kind of hoping for some more buddy cop stuff with those two in the future of the series. Likewise, Folly was a character that grew on me quite a bit as I began to understand how Etherealists work, and by the end when she started actually -talking- to the Predator it was a really cool moment.
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Tunicate posted:Yes, but keep in mind the first chapter is basically a videogame tutorial and isn't really that great. Also keep in mind that this complaint is overstated, and the only "video game" part of it is the phrase "There are three types of ____".
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Oct 9, 2015 19:42
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As well as the fact that the entire fight scene is written like "And then he held U+X and burned 25% of his power bar to Lash them to the ceiling, then he hit D+Y+RT to launch a Gravity Kick down the hallway..."
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Oct 9, 2015 21:48
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Khizan posted:As well as the fact that the entire fight scene is written like "And then he held U+X and burned 25% of his power bar to Lash them to the ceiling, then he hit D+Y+RT to launch a Gravity Kick down the hallway..." Tbh I'd rather that then hand-wavey poo poo that winds up amounting to "the protagonist dug REAL REAL DEEP and GRITTED THEIR TEETH and won through sheer determination" because there are no rules other than what winds up with our hero coming out on top. One thing I really don't like in Dresden Files is that Harry regularly winds up with his back to the wall then grits his teeth, draws on some prior reserve that he inexplicably wasn't using until now, saves the day, then passes out. Let the protagonist win by out-fighting and/or out-smarting their opponent and actually winning, instead of having plot armor twist the implied rules of the world to make them win because they're just so plucky and gutsy.
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Oct 9, 2015 22:03
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That's all Sanderson does, except he does it more like "And then the hero realized how the powers really worked and then he used the powers and he won" so it's not "Harry reached into his soul and tapped his reserves and won" it's "Kaladin realized that he had to say the words and then he said the words and then he won".
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Oct 9, 2015 23:08
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No I'm pretty sure V's fight against the other Mistborn in the first Mistborn book owned all the bones.
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Oct 10, 2015 01:16
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Magres posted:Tbh I'd rather that then hand-wavey poo poo that winds up amounting to "the protagonist dug REAL REAL DEEP and GRITTED THEIR TEETH and won through sheer determination" because there are no rules other than what winds up with our hero coming out on top. Don't get me wrong, I like rules magic, and I like sanderson, but the first chapter of Way of Kings I didn't like that much, because it was way further towards the tutorial level end of things than normal.
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Oct 10, 2015 01:16
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We do have a Sanderson thread, you know.
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Oct 10, 2015 01:19
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ConfusedUs posted:We do have a Sanderson thread, you know. (Getting a sequel to SoS in a few months rather than having to wait a year+ is also a nice bonus)
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Did Sanderson say he was going to go in an urban fantasy direction with the next (or a future) instalment of Mistborn? I think I've read that.
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