prefect posted:Frank's not going to crash his drawing table into a farmer's market and kill a bunch of people. Don't tell him what he can't do.
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Lurdiak posted:Don't tell him what he can't do. It would require him to take less than a year or two to get anything done.
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Oct 9, 2015 23:14
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mind the walrus posted:Oh that's the cop-out this time? Can you elaborate, I'm not quite sure what you mean here? Azzarello is co-writing DKIII and will probably be the one to tone down or rework any of Miller's crazy ideas.
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Oct 10, 2015 02:11
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Equeen posted:Can you elaborate, I'm not quite sure what you mean here? Azzarello is co-writing DKIII and will probably be the one to tone down or rework any of Miller's crazy ideas. With the exception of Holy Terror every time Miller or some other "controversial" artist clearly far past their prime puts out new work there's always some low-key rationalizing way to try and get around the fact that the work sucks on toast in order to get people to buy it. Usually "it's satire" works in the absence of nothing else (All-Star Batman & Robin and TDKSA fell under this), but in this case having Brian Azzarello is going to be a great way to bait people who--understandably--don't want a single thing to do with Frank Miller's work of the last 25 years.
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Oct 10, 2015 02:38
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Equeen posted:Can you elaborate, I'm not quite sure what you mean here? Azzarello is co-writing DKIII and will probably be the one to tone down or rework any of Miller's crazy ideas. That's a very optimistic assumption. Miller is on a whole 'nother level, as far as extant creative clout with DC, than Azzarello. If it comes down to Miller vs Azzarello on some crazy, controversial plot idea, the odds are VERY good that DC editorial will side with Miller, citing that long-past era where he was legitimately one of the best comic makers in the world. That residual glow of talent is, after all, why they're paying him to do DKIII in the first place, and DC likely knows that arguing over Miller's insanity is a great way to ensure that the book is never completed.
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corn in the bible posted:frank miller was never good Quit slumming, go back to AI.
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Oct 10, 2015 03:37
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Rhyno posted:Basically every new Marvel #1 will have one. Here's a link with the 56 announced I ended up getting a "pre-sale" thing from my local comic book store. I pay cover price ahead of time and just go pick up the comics when they drop. Really liked the people even though I only interacted with two. if you're in MD, here's their website http://www.thirdeyecomics.com/ They really do social media bullshit well
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noirstronaut posted:I ended up getting a "pre-sale" thing from my local comic book store. I pay cover price ahead of time and just go pick up the comics when they drop. Really liked the people even though I only interacted with two. if you're in MD, here's their website http://www.thirdeyecomics.com/ Good deal dude! We're charging $1 over cover at my shop. Looks like a few are starting to Ebay creep a bit so for those that want these you should start grabbing them up!
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The Marvel Hip Hop covers all work surprisingly well and it's a really cool crossover thing. I recently saw Ice Cube tweeting about a couple of them.
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Oct 10, 2015 03:59
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Trast posted:The Marvel Hip Hop covers all work surprisingly well and it's a really cool crossover thing. I recently saw Ice Cube tweeting about a couple of them. The only bad part is the order ratios and how many base covers we were required to order them. They did adjust them retroactively but it's still kind of lovely considering the demand for them.
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Teenage Fansub posted:Brian Azzarello is really the one writing it. No. He's getting paid to hang out with Frank Miller. Azzarello is the filter between Miller and the editors. That sounds like a party to me. Like 70's Marvel taking acid, or Morrison and Quitely getting stoned out their minds. Dudes having fun making comics yields some good results.
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mind the walrus posted:With the exception of Holy Terror every time Miller or some other "controversial" artist clearly far past their prime puts out new work there's always some low-key rationalizing way to try and get around the fact that the work sucks on toast in order to get people to buy it. Usually "it's satire" works in the absence of nothing else (All-Star Batman & Robin and TDKSA fell under this), but in this case having Brian Azzarello is going to be a great way to bait people who--understandably--don't want a single thing to do with Frank Miller's work of the last 25 years. In all seriousness there's no rationalizing needed. Miller is a huge name. Probably the single biggest name you can put on a comic, especially a Batman comic, and people will buy it. The people who have been paying attention and don't want anything to do with Frank Miller anymore are a tiny minority and it only seems like there's any kind of sizable contingent of them because a lot of them are here on Something Awful. It's the same reason Jim Lee gets to be the #2 guy at DC and redesign every single hero and sell variant covers despite not really improving artistically since the 90s, even though that style has gone out of vogue. In this business if you have a big enough name, the average comic fan just sort of assumes what you're doing is good. Or more accurately, if people liked what you did before, they assume they'll like what you're doing now. Frank Miller is probably even better at this because he hasn't done much in the last few years. So now you've got Batman, who is already pretty much guaranteed to sell, being drawn by the single biggest creative name who's ever worked on him, and this perception that he's "coming out of retirement" so to speak. DC doesn't give poo poo One about the content of DKIII. It could be a single panel of Batman's head photocopied over and over with speech bubbles of unfiltered crazy racist gibberish straight off Miller's dome and it would sell better than anything else they put out that year. Azzarello is on the book because if Frank Miller tried to draw the entire thing he would probably croak.
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The most frustrating thing about Jim Lee designing costumes is the odd idea that being a good artist automatically means you're a good costume designer.
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Travis343 posted:In all seriousness there's no rationalizing needed. Miller is a huge name. Probably the single biggest name you can put on a comic, especially a Batman comic, and people will buy it. The people who have been paying attention and don't want anything to do with Frank Miller anymore are a tiny minority and it only seems like there's any kind of sizable contingent of them because a lot of them are here on Something Awful. I always thought the rationalizing thing was just a fan thing. Especially with satire. Every loving thing is satire according to most forums.
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If it's bad it's satire and you don't get it.
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Oct 10, 2015 19:15
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Superhero fans are the worst and don't get exaggeration/art in general, who knew! Shame that Miller's stories (unlike his art) did not outgrew the genre after all and he doesn't know better than returning to that well.
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fatherboxx posted:Superhero fans are the worst and don't get exaggeration/art in general, who knew! Now we are doing its satire for art too. That is fun and not tedious garbage.
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Lurdiak posted:The most frustrating thing about Jim Lee designing costumes is the odd idea that being a good artist automatically means you're a good costume designer. See also: George Perez and Alex Ross. Three legendary artists who have designed some of the worst costumes in the history of comics.
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Oct 10, 2015 19:37
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DK3: The Atom preview http://www.comicbookresources.com/comic-previews/dark-knight-universe-presents-the-atom-1-dc-comics-2015 Both Miller and Janson are credited as pecillers so it doesn't look like the cover
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:Both Miller and Janson are credited as pecillers Not according to the credit page. 
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Teenage Fansub posted:Not according to the credit page. Ah you're right, I just read the credits put by CBR
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corn in the bible posted:frank miller was never good Of course he was. His skills as a storyteller and his contributions to the medium are among the best there's ever been.
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Lurdiak posted:The most frustrating thing about Jim Lee designing costumes is the odd idea that being a good artist automatically means you're a good costume designer. Cully Hamner was brought in to polish quite a few of Lee's designs to make them less....... lovely?
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Rhyno posted:The only bad part is the order ratios and how many base covers we were required to order them. They did adjust them retroactively but it's still kind of lovely considering the demand for them. I wonder if they'll make an art book of them down the road.
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:DK3: The Atom preview There are some pretty good legs on page 2.
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That's honestly pretty cool, looks like Paul Pope's Batman Year 100.
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Lurdiak posted:The most frustrating thing about Jim Lee designing costumes is the odd idea that being a good artist automatically means you're a good costume designer. Jim Lee isn't a good artist.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:That's honestly pretty cool, looks like Paul Pope's Batman Year 100. I guess if you ignore the missing left leg it's OK. Nah, it still sucks. Why does Frank Miller think that everyone, superhero or otherwise, wears, like, Timberland treads on their shoes all the time? I first notices this in Sin City. Dude likes to draw boot treads I guess.
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BiggerBoat posted:Why does Frank Miller think that everyone, superhero or otherwise, wears, like, Timberland treads on their shoes all the time? I first notices this in Sin City. Dude likes to draw boot treads I guess. You need some heavy gear when you are doing the surgical work in a mud pit.
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Teenage Fansub posted:Bill Sienkiewicz's Dark Knight 3 cover. Same. But to be fair, I feel that way about everything Sienkiewicz does. 
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I got his Superman/Wonder Woman cover on my bedroom wall. Hal and Ollie in that pic makes me want a Cooke Green Lantern/Green Arrow book badly. Laughing Batman, the martini of Fate, everything is amazing about that cover.
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I like that in the midst of a big party with all their friends, Supes and Lois have stepped away to make out instead. And Jimmy is creepin on them.
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