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Evil Mastermind posted:I love your move names. Did you post this on the G+ group or anything? Thanks for the feedback. First off, yes, I did post it on G+. Secondly, my reasoning for Freak instead of Superior is because you're a kid in an adults body and the assumption is few know. So, like the move says, you're appearance and antics are off putting and ergo confusing and weird. So, the move is trying to suggest the whole thing should be awkward and more happens out of your weirdness than any attempt at maturity. Ya know? What are your feelings after the explanation: keep it or change it? Also, every official playbook lists "Unlock Your Moment of Truth" twice. I think it's so you can lock two labels.
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Covok posted:Thanks for the feedback. quote:Secondly, my reasoning for Freak instead of Superior is because you're a kid in an adults body and the assumption is few know. So, like the move says, you're appearance and antics are off putting and ergo confusing and weird. So, the move is trying to suggest the whole thing should be awkward and more happens out of your weirdness than any attempt at maturity. Ya know? quote:Also, every official playbook lists "Unlock Your Moment of Truth" twice. I think it's so you can lock two labels.
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Oct 9, 2015 16:28
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Last night, Error 404 gave me some suggestions so I thought I'd try them out. I also used it as a chance to replace one of the moves that I felt was really weak. Changes: -You now start with Uh, Fellow Adult Guy instead of Alright, Kid Power! -Reason: Error 404 suggested that it'd made more sense since the playbook should focus more on your weirdness being an adult in a kid's body and your interactions with the adult and child world. I concurred. -Remove "Explosive Outburst" -Reason: It just felt weak narrativel-y. It only really works if you transform like Captain Marvel or are Captain Marvel. It's hard to work narrative-ly if you aren't. It was also limiting. -Added "The Innocent Accusing Eye -Reason: It serves as a counter-balance to "You're Such A Kid." Kids might be woefully inexperienced in life and have simplistic beliefs that are dangerous for adults to follow, but they have knack for cutting to the heart of the matter and saying something that hits right in the heart because of their innocence and sincerity. -Swapped starting label value of Freak and Mundane -Reason: It works better to reinforce the idea people find you weird and off-putting. Also, Masks playbooks tend to make the starting, highest stat be the same stat in their automove. When switiching auto moves, it made sense to switch these too. -Added in Looks section -Reason: I forgot to include it before Without further ado, here is The Kid v2. Covok fucked around with this message at 17:58 on Oct 9, 2015 |
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Oct 9, 2015 17:38
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drrockso20 posted:so I haven't read through the whole thread yet, but anyone want to sell me on Spirit of 77, cause it looks pretty rad, but I could use some more convincing QuantumNinja ran a game of it here that eventually died, but I had a lot of fun in it. The Role+Story way of developing characters is a lot of fun and you can come up with some wacky dudes. Our crew was a Kung-Fu Sleuth, Board-Rat Gonzo Journalist, Glam Tough Lady, X-Tech Vigilante and Holy Roller Honeypot.
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Bucnasti posted:It is pretty rad. Well you sold me, now just need to wait a couple days to see how my finances are after paying my bills Also not completely new to PbtA games, backed Dungeon World, spent lord knows how many hours tracking down Apocalypse World play books before they all got official releases on the wider web, and have a copy of that Wrestling one lying around somewhere, haven't played or run any of them yet though Also a dream I had last night of all things made me realize a niche that's in need of a PbtA game, the whole Dragonriders of Pern type of thing(although I'm kinda picturing it as more of a Rider & His Monster rather than just limiting it to Dragons), unfortunately I don't really know enough about game design to make it a reality
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Surprised that all the custom books on the G+ Mask group are from this group. Well, surprised and unsurprised. My take on the "Kid Superhero" is more Sailor Moon, Molly Hayes and Misfit (who was the youngster in Birds of Prey.) The Youth 2.0 is ready to join the fray!
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Oct 10, 2015 19:16
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Not sure if I'll throw up a playbook. But I have an idea for 'the possessed' where you share your body with a separate entity that grants you power ala jean grey/phoenix, or jackie/the darkness, some interpretations of banner/the hulk. Highlighting a struggle between the person and this alien intelligence for dominance. Sort of a what if tyler durden also gave jack super powers? Kind of thing.
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Oct 10, 2015 19:31
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I don't really have any solid playbook ideas, so I've been focusing on custom moves. Currently sort of poking at a "Not-the-LSH playset". I am most proud of: Future Sprock: On the first failed roll of any session, if one of the PCs responds with a ridiculous far-future 'space swear', treat the roll as a 7-9 but the GM still makes a hard move even if it's probably terrible move design.
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Made a few changes to The Wielder, one of which was to rename it to the better-sounding "Bearer". I added a few moves, and put in a note that you can't use your powers and such if the Artifact is taken from you.
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Covok posted:Without further ado, here is The Kid v2. So, one other suggestion based entirely on aesthetics, is to change the name of "Uh, Yes, Fellow Adult Guy" to something more like How do you do, fellow grown-up?. It's entirely subjective, but it just flows better in my opinion.
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Oct 10, 2015 21:41
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Was looking through Monster of the Week and it's playbooks and it struck me that it would be great for playing Deadlands PbtA.
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Oct 10, 2015 23:02
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Error 404 posted:Yeah I'm backing masks as well. So yeah, I've decided to put up or shut up about DIY powers in masks. I hope y'all like it, I'll be updating and smoothing it out, but I don't intend for it to be anything big, I was shooting for something similar to the Alternate Harm rules for AW in terms of this being a 'plug and play' kind of thing.
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Oct 11, 2015 00:01
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Covok posted:Also, every official playbook lists "Unlock Your Moment of Truth" twice. I think it's so you can lock two labels. Nah, it's because once you have 5 normal advances taken you pick from the second list of advances instead but they didn't want to lock you out of getting the Moment of Truth, so it's listed in each section.
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Oct 11, 2015 12:25
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I don't think it locks you out from the first list, though.
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Neopie posted:I don't think it locks you out from the first list, though. Not unless masks works very differently from aw and other games.
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GodFish posted:Nah, it's because once you have 5 normal advances taken you pick from the second list of advances instead but they didn't want to lock you out of getting the Moment of Truth, so it's listed in each section. According to the creator, the intent is that you can do it twice.
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Oct 11, 2015 18:37
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Oh, that was definitely the impression I had, guess not though.
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I've recently been working on my misfits and spaceships hack again, and I'm getting close to Alpha 2.1 3 new archetypes, I'm still working on the new handouts but they should be done in the next few days. There are still problems I need to solve. Namely, keeping external complications relevant when the characters can get in their space clunker and fly away. In my time exploring the roll 3 drop highest/lowest mechanic I made this chart. It may be useful to other designers or those interested In numbers. Disclaimer: I am a math dummy. If a math smarty says this chart is wrong and dumb, believe them.
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Seems okay so far, still going through it. Likely give it a better look tomorrow. Small editing errors I've noticed: Page 43, in Fleshknitter "wound or r a physical injury" remove the " r " Also page 43, Sense8ive should be Sensitive unless it's a reference I'm just missing! Also you talk about using stats (Approaches) long before you ever talk about what they are. They're part of the way you interface with the world and the moves don't make as much sense without knowing them. You should put them up front. Same thing with Substitute Harm, you talk about being able to trade Harm for Calamity, but this is the first we're hearing of Calamity, so it's awkward. Don't get me wrong though, I like what you're doing, and it's nice to have another option besides Uncharted Worlds for a space PbtA game!
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Yeah, this seems tons of fun to play. I'm still going through it.
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DemonMage posted:Also page 43, Sense8ive should be Sensitive unless it's a reference I'm just missing! Probably a reference to Sense8, a TV show.
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DemonMage posted:Seems okay so far, still going through it. Likely give it a better look tomorrow. Thanks for the feedback, it's all really valuable stuff! Ordering where to put information and how much is a big challenge for me, so your observations are really helpful here. I may have a section discussing flow of play and mechanics. Doodmons posted:Probably a reference to Sense8, a TV show. You are indeed correct! madadric fucked around with this message at 22:21 on Oct 12, 2015 |
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I decided to write up a playset for Masks inspired by works like Tiger & Bunny and Ratman. Essentially, a world of heroes that is run by and centers around corporations. I decided to bother some ideas from Nathan D. Poeletta's World Wide Wrestling to add a new dimension to the game. I tried my best to make the playset play back into the concept of finding yourself by trying to establish that the corporation you work for takes away your identity (your own hero logo) for their own and, on top of the other alterations, a custom, adult move allows you to take your logo back. It definitely isn't perfect, or even good, and any feedback is appreciated.
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Covok posted:I decided to write up a playset for Masks inspired by works like Tiger & Bunny and Ratman. Essentially, a world of heroes that is run by and centers around corporations. I decided to bother some ideas from Nathan D. Poeletta's World Wide Wrestling to add a new dimension to the game. "Cut a Promo" doesn't translate well; it's intentional that most of Masks communication is Changing People's Self-Image and Provoking. Nuance and Empathy are an adult move. Instead, something like: PLAY TO THE CAMERA: When you Act Selfishly, you can instead take +1 Approval instead of +1 forward. --- I don't think Alter Self-Image should let you raise or lower approval, unless you do it in a public way. Taking Starkid aside and saying "Hey, you're too dangerous, pay attention to your environment" won't effect either of your corporate standings. I suggest you rework the Delinquent (I'd make them someone who utterly hates the system and give them a move similar to Mary Contrary for corporations). Ex: "Break the Chains: When you reach 0 approval, mark potential. You can share this move; when your entire team reaches 0 approval, you all count as On the Same Page for the Team move. Cross this move out and take another."
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Golden Bee posted:"Cut a Promo" doesn't translate well; it's intentional that most of Masks communication is Changing People's Self-Image and Provoking. Nuance and Empathy are an adult move. I really prefer your version of Play to the Camera. It's much more elegant than my version. I assume you meant "Take Advantage of Influence," not "Alter Self-Image." Regardless, I disagree. You can definitely take advantage of someone caring what you say to mislead them in a corporate setting and make yourself look better at their expense. Hell, I've seen it happen. The most important thing, of course, is for it to flow from the fiction. If you take advantage of your influence over someone to get them to say something candid about their boss then forward that information, you definitely made yourself look better at their expense. Though, I do hope that is more of an extreme example than anything that shows up in play. As for the Delinquent, I do plan to, if I have the time, to give every playbook a custom move to accommodate the changed setting that they just get automatically. I just wanted to see if what I had already was any good.
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Something that might be helpful madadric is turning on Commenting for your link sharing. Then people can suggest changes directly on the document. And I thought it might have been a Sense8 reference, it seemed too strange to have been an actual typo, but I didn't see how it related other than vaguely (having not watched the show yet) so I mentioned it just incase =-p DemonMage fucked around with this message at 10:34 on Oct 13, 2015 |
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DemonMage posted:Something that might be helpful madadric is turning on Commenting for your link sharing. Then people can suggest changes directly on the document. Hmm I thought comment was on but you're right it wasn't. Thanks for the heads up! It is on now. Measuring travel in days becomes important when measuring how many person days of life support you have left. I'm intending to have alternate rules in the drifting section for changing travel to be essentially free. The base game is this firefly/dark matter/killjoys making ends meet struggle, but drifting will change that to reflect other kinds of base situations like Farscape, or Star Trek
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I was just thinking something like Sub-Space: When you need to only travel a short distance, spend 3 days in space and consume 1 unit of fuel. A moderate distance is 9 days and 3 fuel. Long distance is 27 days and 9 fuel. Hyperspace: Short = 1 day/fuel. Moderate = 3 day/fuel. Long = 9 days/fuel. Warp = Long distance or less is 2 days and 1 fuel. -- This may need Extreme as a second option, with the other ones clearly not being meant for such distant travel. You can go farther than anyone, but the risk is high. And then rolling for effect, so if you take Sub-Space a long distance you're consuming a ton of resources which makes it even riskier to select double resource usage. But it's clearly not a great option for really long distances anyways. The idea being that it's easy to have a sense of whether a destination is close/moderate/far (or close/far/extreme whatever), but you don't need to remember or calculate light years, just the relationship between objects. [Edit] Basically taking a cue from the abstract nature of weapon distances and applying that to space travel, instead of having to rely on a bunch of distance numbers and calculations. DemonMage fucked around with this message at 07:12 on Oct 14, 2015 |
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Covok posted:You can definitely take advantage of someone caring what you say to mislead them in a corporate setting and make yourself look better at their expense. Hell, I've seen it happen. The book says explicitly you work for different companies, so it seems extremely unlikely as a fictional trigger. "Let it off your chest" is one thing, but "going to tell their boss" is a SEPARATE fictional trigger. Them telling you something in privacy would never mess with the corporate masters; the trigger is when the info goes back to PR.
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DemonMage posted:I was just thinking something like That's definitely worth considering! I'll have to think of some good nomenclature for it, so that travel distances and combat distances don't get confused. I'll also look at the current structure for generating star systems and star clusters/sectors to get a sense of mapping all this out.
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Nathan Paoletta, author of WWWRPG, just posted a (Very) rough draft preview of World Wide Wrestling Season 2: International Incident on the WWWRPG Google+ community. Featuring different styles of wrestling such Lucha Libre, Puroresu, Indie circuits, and more. Audience moves, rules for your promotion, other optional/new rules.  
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I'm still working away on Impulse Drive. I've added a lot of small refinements and explanations throughout the book, and I have the Handouts PDF with enough basics to play, though there are a few more tools I might list on an extra page for the Space Master. Rules google Doc. Archetypes and Handouts PDF I'm going to have a week off after next week, so I'll be trying to get a few playtest games in if people are interested in trying it out.
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Anyone working a template for Masks playbooks? Would love to port The Kid over to something more game friendly.
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Covok posted:Anyone working a template for Masks playbooks? Would love to port The Kid over to something more game friendly. As they are now, there's not much to them. I'd wait until we can see if they do anything cool with the final version.
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you know I just realized there isn't a PbtA game for Mecha stuff, despite that being a perfect fit, someone should do something with that(I don't know enough to make it myself)
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I'd be interested but for me, despite the fact people point out the contrary, goonsaying about machine stats is a big part of the appeal and that's fundamentally opposite to good AW design.
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Depends on what kind of mech game you mean! Battle tech or whatever then yeah pimping out your mech can be the appeal for people. If it's more anime style, then doing crazy stunts and saving the world (from your best friend of course) would work just fine stat-lite. Even the former can focus on the politics.
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Anime mechs has some great potential. Gutted lagaan protagonist: the Burning spirit, all about getting fired up and passionate in the face of the Evil Empire. I was going to list some other archetypes like the defector, the dependable, the leader, the broken, but eh. Worked up teens in big robots sounds like the beginning and end to me.
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It's not entirely undoable to make something fiddly enough to satisfy while maintaining the fiction focus of AW. I had a similar idea for a sci-fi/shadowrun style "gear porn" system. I'm not as much a fan of the anime mecha stuff as I am battletech, but if I were to take a stab at it I'd do something like: Focus on effects via tags. So you have your basic moves, but mech 1 and mech 2 volley, but mech 1 has xyz tags, and mech 2 has abc and so it's all resolved different in fiction. Use weight from DW, but split it up between sections of whatever. (You can fit 5 weight on the left torso, a machine gun is 1 weight, a laser is 2, add 1 weight for extra ammo, lightweight materials -1 weight but double the cost) So you keep the fun gear lists and tweaks, everyone's mech can be unique, but in play you have a short statblock of tags and a couple stats to keep the basic pbta playstyle. "I fire a volley at the enemy!" roll +whatever damage is n-harm (piercing, messy, forceful, EMP, etc.) "I kick in my new ________." Hyper-capacitors or whatever, +1 forward to 'escape danger' Jumpjets which gave you +jump but take up some weight in the legs/torso so on and so forth.
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It's not even that I'm big on battletech but encyclopedic schematic diagrams of gundams and development timelines of the different universe suits are things I associate really strongly with the games.
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