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Combed Thunderclap posted:People in the comments are actually arguing that if the Warsaw Ghetto fighters had only had more guns, they...might have won? Somehow? They wouldn't claim to have the nukes though.
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Luigi Thirty posted:So thanks to Ben Carson, here's an opinion piece on Fox News about how the Holocaust was the Jews' fault for giving up their guns. gently caress Ben Carson and the GOP. Goddamn it. Combed Thunderclap posted:I'm normally the last person to pull the anti-Semitism card, but in my opinion, it really is straight-up anti-Semitism to argue that if the Jews had just, like, got guns and tried harder, they might not have all been killed. When an entire society and its professionally trained and equipped military has decided you, and everyone like you, are going to die, it's already too late. Especially given that, thanks to the principle of collective punishment, the killing of a single Nazi was justification enough for wiping out entire towns of people. Victim-blaming is the cornerstone of conservatism though. "Maybe if the natives hadn't been running around naked we wouldn't have had to give them smallpox blankets." 
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Oct 10, 2015 19:11
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I mean you could make an argument the Jewish people didn't have ENOUGH guns since yknow during the warsaw uprising they were going up against Railway Artillery and one of the most terrifying weapons of the war; It could fire a 300kg 38cm rocket at ranges up to three miles.
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Oct 10, 2015 19:14
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Ben Carson won't even speak the truth when it comes to his professional specialty--everything else has been disingenuous party-line horseshit.
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Oct 10, 2015 19:18
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Venom Snake posted:I mean you could make an argument the Jewish people didn't have ENOUGH guns since yknow during the warsaw uprising they were going up against Railway Artillery and one of the most terrifying weapons of the war; The Sturmtiger was known to have wiped out entire buildings, sometimes two at a time. The Uprising was its only real notable use IIRC.
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Oct 10, 2015 19:42
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It's starting to look like it's time, fellow goons. A las barricadas, mi hermanos! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Odrfx7WmNWQ
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Oct 10, 2015 20:49
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Venom Snake posted:I mean you could make an argument the Jewish people didn't have ENOUGH guns since yknow during the warsaw uprising they were going up against Railway Artillery and one of the most terrifying weapons of the war; You just wanted to post about this gun, which I don't blame you for.
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Oct 10, 2015 20:51
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SedanChair posted:You just wanted to post about this gun, which I don't blame you for. I used to play a lot of Wolfenstein: ET, and it had a map with railway artillery that I thought (because education in Nevada is poo poo) was just some outlandish video game thing in the grand Wolfenstein tradition. Imagine my surprise when those turned out to be an actual thing.
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CommieGIR posted:The Uprising was its only real notable use IIRC.
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Cabbit posted:I used to play a lot of Wolfenstein: ET, and it had a map with railway artillery that I thought (because education in Nevada is poo poo) was just some outlandish video game thing in the grand Wolfenstein tradition. Imagine my surprise when those turned out to be an actual thing. Supposedly they had one that maybe could shell London.
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Oct 10, 2015 21:08
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Cabbit posted:I used to play a lot of Wolfenstein: ET, and it had a map with railway artillery that I thought (because education in Nevada is poo poo) was just some outlandish video game thing in the grand Wolfenstein tradition. Imagine my surprise when those turned out to be an actual thing. Depends on which part of Nevada you live in. Reno High didn't do bad by me.
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Oct 10, 2015 21:09
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Thump! posted:They were just really loving bad at using their tanks. And to be fair, the Maginot Line might have worked if they just did the politically rude thing and walled off Belgium too.
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Oct 10, 2015 21:18
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DemeaninDemon posted:Supposedly they had one that maybe could shell London. They did have one of those, the Brits bombed it hell before it could be used
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KomradeX posted:They did have one of those, the Brits bombed it hell before it could be used if the germans had guns this wouldn't have happened
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Oct 10, 2015 21:31
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7c Nickel posted:And to be fair, the Maginot Line might have worked if they just did the politically rude thing and walled off Belgium too. And now, Belgium houses the EU, and use Germany as their attack dog to control Europe. Follow the leads! Those frites-eaters are playing us all like fiddles!
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Oct 10, 2015 21:46
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mcclay posted:Depends on which part of Nevada you live in. Reno High didn't do bad by me. Las Vegas, so absolutely abysmal. Came as a bit of a shock when I did a bachelor's degree in Texas and found out that my grasp of math was sub-HS even by their standards.
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Oct 10, 2015 21:59
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foobardog posted:And now, Belgium houses the EU, and use Germany as their attack dog to control Europe. It would make a certain amount of sense if all the competent Belgians were in the EU bureaucracy instead of the national government.
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Oct 10, 2015 22:17
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Oct 10, 2015 22:18
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Zwabu posted:Rachel Maddow did a really nice detailed segment on the House Speaker kerfuffle the other night, including its origins in Eric Cantor's ouster because he would have already succeeded Boehner as Speaker if he hadn't lost his seat. Word salad is often intentional. Generally when dealing with zealots, assume every bizarre sentence fragment is a reference meant for other zealots. If you're actually reading and listening to divine meaning, remember that proper nouns are actually adjectives synonymous with good or evil.
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Oct 10, 2015 22:52
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Cabbit posted:I used to play a lot of Wolfenstein: ET, and it had a map with railway artillery that I thought (because education in Nevada is poo poo) was just some outlandish video game thing in the grand Wolfenstein tradition. Imagine my surprise when those turned out to be an actual thing. That map was pretty good but the fuel dump one was a lot more fun imo.
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Oct 10, 2015 22:57
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Watched Bernie speak in Boulder, CO earlier today. Pretty decent crowd on CUs campus, about 2,000 people. Everyone are his brothers and sisters. And Americur.  Touched on the major campaign points, pretty standard stump speech: - $15 min federal wage - Pay eqaulity, women's reproductive rights - Sensible gun controls including removing the gun show loophole, using the recent shootings as examples - Free education, funded with a tax on wall street speculation - Breaking up huge banks - Ending Citizens United - Universal healthcare - Better mental health access - Reducing the prison population All in all, everything you'd expect a Bernie rally to be about.
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Oct 10, 2015 23:49
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Hollismason posted:If Paul Ryan has any national aspirations he shouldn't take the roll of Speaker of the House. He also shouldn't have agreed to debate Diamond Joe.
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Oct 10, 2015 23:50
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a shameful boehner posted:Watched Bernie speak in Boulder, CO earlier today. all the estimates I've seen place attendance at just under 10,000, unless he had more than one in Boulder today
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Oct 10, 2015 23:54
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Obama joked that Kanye West was going to run for speaker of the house. I'm not sure he should be giving him any ideas.
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Oct 11, 2015 00:00
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comes along bort posted:He also shouldn't have agreed to debate Diamond Joe. All that will be a vague memory by the time he runs in 2032, after Trump's 4th term.
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Oct 11, 2015 00:00
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Rogue Copter Pilot posted:all the estimates I've seen place attendance at just under 10,000, unless he had more than one in Boulder today The campaign said his speech in Greensboro, NC last month was around 9,000, but I felt it was also more like 2-3.
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Rogue Copter Pilot posted:all the estimates I've seen place attendance at just under 10,000, unless he had more than one in Boulder today Ill post pictures later but it didn't seem that large. Maybe I'm just bad at counting people. It was in a field on the east campus. Maybe 5,000, 10k seems like a stretch.
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a shameful boehner posted:All in all, everything you'd expect a Bernie rally to be about. So nothing about the blacks, then?
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Hollismason posted:If Paul Ryan has any national aspirations he shouldn't take the roll of Speaker of the House. Ryan's fellow Congressmen won't forget if he shirks on them. Someone's gotta fall on the sword, and you don't get to claim that you're too important for it just because you want to be President. Besides, he loses credibility as a "party leader" if he dodges taking leadership in a crisis. Might not count too much next year, but now's not the time to be picking up grudges from his natural allies in the Establishment.
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USPOL October: IF YOU CAN STARVE A GRANNY, YOU CAN STARVE A GOVERNMENT
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Precambrian posted:Ryan's fellow Congressmen won't forget if he shirks on them. Someone's gotta fall on the sword, and you don't get to claim that you're too important for it just because you want to be President. Besides, he loses credibility as a "party leader" if he dodges taking leadership in a crisis. Might not count too much next year, but now's not the time to be picking up grudges from his natural allies in the Establishment. I dunno, maybe this works in the real world but the republican party is currently in looney tunes land.
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Milk Malk posted:So nothing about the blacks, then? A fair amount about illegal immigration and a dressing racism perpetuated by Republicans.
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Oh yeah,some clerks with rifles are going to hold up an army supported by tanks, artillery and bombers. Luigi Thirty posted:So thanks to Ben Carson, here's an opinion piece on Fox News about how the Holocaust was the Jews' fault for giving up their guns. I know it's a joke that Jews get blamed for everything, but Goddamn.
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Oct 11, 2015 00:35
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a shameful boehner posted:A fair amount about illegal immigration and a dressing racism perpetuated by Republicans. What exactly did he say about immigration because I haven't heard much aside from 'no open borders' which is like, yea no poo poo, but when asked about poo poo like for profit arrests of immigrants and what to do with the people here he keeps seeming to pivot.
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Looks like Clinton's email "scandal" is going to reverse even more for the GOP:quote:Benghazi Committee Ex-Staffer Alleges He Was Fired For Refusing To Target Clinton http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/bradley-podliska-benghazi-committee-allegations
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Oct 11, 2015 00:57
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Mitt Romney posted:Looks like Clinton's email "scandal" is going to reverse even more for the GOP: Oh my god this is too beautiful to be true.
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The Mystery of ISIS’ Toyota Army Solved Recently, when the US State Department resumed sending non-lethal aid to Syrian rebels, the delivery list included 43 Toyota trucks. Hiluxes were on the Free Syrian Army’s wish list. Oubai Shahbander, a Washington-based advisor to the Syrian National Coalition, is a fan of the truck. “Specific equipment like the Toyota Hiluxes are what we refer to as force enablers for the moderate opposition forces on the ground,” he adds. Shahbander says the US-supplied pickups will be delivering troops and supplies into battle. Some of the fleet will even become battlefield weapons. So far the UK has sent around £8m of “non-lethal” aid, according to official papers seen by The Independent, comprising five 4×4 vehicles with ballistic protection; 20 sets of body armour; four trucks (three 25 tonne, one 20 tonne); six 4×4 SUVs; five non-armoured pick-ups; one recovery vehicle; four fork-lifts; three advanced “resilience kits” for region hubs, designed to rescue people in emergencies; 130 solar powered batteries; around 400 radios; water purification and rubbish collection kits; laptops; VSATs (small satellite systems for data communications) and printers. lol we are arming terrorism.
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CommieGIR posted:The Sturmtiger was known to have wiped out entire buildings, sometimes two at a time. It was used in the Battle of the Bulge. But like most rare weapons records of engagement are hard to come across because of the loss of battle reports when command centers were burned and the fact it fires from so far away you won't really know what hit or shoot at you. Weapons like the Sturmtiger weren't well known for leaving survivors at the point of impact.
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Tatum Girlparts posted:What exactly did he say about immigration because I haven't heard much aside from 'no open borders' which is like, yea no poo poo, but when asked about poo poo like for profit arrests of immigrants and what to do with the people here he keeps seeming to pivot. He talked to it directly, starting with his father's experience as a Polish immigrant and not knowing a word of English. He spoke about : - How business owners were complicit in fostering "undocumented immigrants", through exploiting their labor through low wages, with an acknowledgement that we need to now address the issue at hand of 11 million undocumented workers by providing a realistic path to citizenship (he didn't use the phrase "illegal immigration" once) - Directly addressed Trump's racist comments about how migrants were all rapists and murderers, talking about how this has been repeated in the past with pitting whites against African Americans, Asians etc. - Spoke of supporting the DREAM Act and that he still does despite Republican opposition in the house; said DACA was a good start but not enough - Wants to keep families together, not break them apart (against mass deportations) - Acknowledged the importance of migrant labor to the economy and said our agricultural sector would fall apart without it, and reiterated a fair pathway to citizenship Overall it was one of the bigger topics in his speech. ex post facho fucked around with this message at 01:26 on Oct 11, 2015 |
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