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Don't worry it's not like they'd privatise something that they were forced to renationalise before, that'd just be pure ideology rather than evidence driven
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Can we all chip in to buy Bozza's shop steward a pint, or something?
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Thoughts on Gideon promoting contracts for HS2 in China? Are we unable to build it ourselves?
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If you want to read something really funny, read this and then the comments: http://www.conservativehome.com/pla...-third-way.html Yes yes the problem is it's not privatised enough, see.
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Metrication posted:Thoughts on Gideon promoting contracts for HS2 in China? Are we unable to build it ourselves? I think China's safety record speaks for itself.
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Lord of the Llamas posted:I think China's safety record speaks for itself. China's (high speed) railway safety record is pretty good, though? Besides the crash in Wenzhou, and a collapsing viaduct, I don't recall any serious problems since they started laying down massive amounts of track in 2003.
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It's off, it's on, it's off, it's on again! http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/sep/30/northern-rail-upgrades-to-be-unpaused-government-to-announcequote:Two promised rail upgrades in northern England and the Midlands that were shelved by the government in June, breaking election pledges, are to be restarted, it has been announced. Also included in the story is a picture of Patrick McLoughlin with the new modern rolling stock being made available for the Northern network:  odds on it being cancelled again after the Tory conference next month?
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Mahmoud Ahmadinejad posted:It's off, it's on, it's off, it's on again! http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/sep/30/northern-rail-upgrades-to-be-unpaused-government-to-announce 100%
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Mahmoud Ahmadinejad posted:It's off, it's on, it's off, it's on again! http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/sep/30/northern-rail-upgrades-to-be-unpaused-government-to-announce Good god what a punchable face. Even by Tory standards.
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Is he standing on the line? Because I'm just saying one express service in the other direction could improve the world a little bit.
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Mahmoud Ahmadinejad posted:It's off, it's on, it's off, it's on again! http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/sep/30/northern-rail-upgrades-to-be-unpaused-government-to-announce This definitely has nothing to do with Corbyn's announcement that he wants to re-nationalise the railways
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Oct 2, 2015 14:43
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Oct 9, 2015 16:19
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Would have been a money shot had someone been standing in the doorway.
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Oct 9, 2015 16:38
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We are sorry to announce that the rear carriage of the 15:30 Southern service to London Victoria will now arrive at 21:20. This is due to the failure of privatisation in the British Railway.
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mrpwase posted:We are sorry to announce that the rear carriage of the 15:30 Southern service to London Victoria will now arrive at 21:20. This is due to the failure of privatisation in the British Railway. On the plus side, all carriages forward of the rear carriage, will now arrive at 15:20, which in terms of passenger minutes may constitute an improvement if the rear carriage was underoccupied.
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OwlFancier posted:On the plus side, all carriages forward of the rear carriage, will now arrive at 15:20, which averages out the journey more or less. What percentage of carriages have to reach the station for a train to be on time in the official statistics? I mean if skipping entire towns is allowed to improve punctuality figures, logically the next step is to jettison carriages....
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Looking forward to the repartitioning of the trains into "First" "Standard" and "Ballast" classes.
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Phone posting so i can't be bothered making a long post, but look up the way the London and Blackwall Railway operated originally...
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Yeah, AFAIK many railways used to detach carriages from the ends of trains for passengers stopping at minor destinations. The guard would use the brake to stop the carriage at the station, and the carriage would be shunted and/or collected on the return journey. But DMUs aren't designed to do that! 
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Whenever I get on the train from Northampton to Birmingham they tell you to get on the front carriages because the rear ones are going somewhere else. I don't know where they're going or what happens to the people on them but I assume it's bad. e: Maybe even worse than having to go to Birmingham.
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Oct 10, 2015 15:36
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Yeah my usual train back from Leeds dumps half the train at Newcastle and then only the front carriages continue up to Scotland. It makes sense if you have a route that has a significantly lower demand after a certain point.
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When I used to travel from Aberystwyth back to London, the first train in the morning would go to Ely via Cambridge. Or at least part of the train would. You'd be told at Aberystwyth which coaches to sit in to get to Ely - the rear 4 coaches, iirc. And then the train would get to Shrewsbury and reverse direction and suddenly it would be the front 4 coaches you needed to be sitting in. Which was pretty loving confusing the first time I experienced that, hungover and dead tired, at about 7am.
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mrpwase posted:Yeah, AFAIK many railways used to detach carriages from the ends of trains for passengers stopping at minor destinations. The guard would use the brake to stop the carriage at the station, and the carriage would be shunted and/or collected on the return journey. The L&BR took that another step - the entire train disassembled, one carriage for each station along the entire line. It was cable-hauled and the idea was it was easier to do that than to stop the rope at each station, and allowed a much faster service on the outbound leg. Brilliantly the original idea was that the train would reassemble the same way on the inbound journey which would have taken nerves of loving steel for the brakeman on each carriage. Boringly they decided the inbound leg would be done with all the carriages setting off at the same time (so they all accelerated smoothly instead of trying to go from 0-30 in zero seconds) and reassembling at Minories though. I'm sure I remember reading about a proposed HST system somewhere where the train would never stop and people would board and leave from another train "docking" with the main one, which is awesome as gently caress in concept but just the dumbest possible idea in practice.
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kingturnip posted:When I used to travel from Aberystwyth back to London, the first train in the morning would go to Ely via Cambridge. Or at least part of the train would. When I used to do the reverse of that journey, from Birmingham to Aberystwyth, the train would split at Machynlleth with two carriages going onto Aberystwyth and the other two carriages going up the coast to Pwllheli. If you missed the announcement of which carriage was going which way (as it was never the same each journey), you had one chance to change at the next junction from Machynlleth, at Dovey Junction. If you made the wrong choice, and the other train had gone ahead, it was a minimum two hour wait at Dovey Junction for the next train. Dovey Junction is just a platform and a shelter.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:I'm sure I remember reading about a proposed HST system somewhere where the train would never stop and people would board and leave from another train "docking" with the main one, which is awesome as gently caress in concept but just the dumbest possible idea in practice. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9Ig19gYP9o
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goddamnedtwisto posted:The L&BR took that another step - the entire train disassembled, one carriage for each station along the entire line. It was cable-hauled and the idea was it was easier to do that than to stop the rope at each station, and allowed a much faster service on the outbound leg. Obvuiously the ideal solution would be to include large magnetic accelerators at each station to catapult the carriages up to speed in time to dock with the oncoming train. The occasional acceleration of other metallic objects in the immediate area would be of little concern I'm sure. Bonus points if the trains for some reason do this in the process.
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BR Western Region were still operating slip coaches well into the 1960s. I makes sense if you've got poor acceleration/braking on the train as a whole, intermediate stops become a nightmare.
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The EU, which the tories blamed for forcing them to privatise the railways 20 years ago, has now decided to force all member states to privatise their railways via a 'gradual liberalisation'. They cite the UK's rail privatisation, which it supposedly forced the UK to do, as a great success.quote:EU backs gradual privitisation of Europe’s railways
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I'm surprised they got France and Germany to agree to that. Perhaps the opportunities afforded by moving into other countries outweighs domestic service? 
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If the rest of the EU "liberalise" does that mean UK companies can profit from renting outdated rolling stock to them?
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This one is similar concept but side-by-side and for cars: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYOmZlTjsQ0 <-- about 30m30s in.
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I think this is basically trying to enforce what was decided in the early 90s with seperating the accounts of infrastructure manager and operator. No way the French state is going to hand it's rail services over to just anyone, they'll probably give a semblance of a bid process but set the entry requirements so stupidly high that if your name is not SNCF you ain't getting poo poo.
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Bozza posted:I think this is basically trying to enforce what was decided in the early 90s with seperating the accounts of infrastructure manager and operator. Requirements:
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Metrication posted:
It's been floated several times for the end of the Thameslink upgrade, as it makes the junction south of Blackfriars much easier to timetable. The 2011 RUS planned for it, but I'm imagining that certain MPs for South West London were upset about it and it got reversed last year.
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I finally twigged today why Abellio Greater Anglia have such a loving hard-on for making sure Stansted Airport and Cambridge services run consistently at the cost of any other trains. Stansted Express services - because they're subcontracted via C2C who have the franchise (and, therefore, could fine them for poor performance). Cambridge - because there is actually some element of competition (probably by accident) in that if the service gets too poo poo, passengers can always choose to travel on the route to Kings Cross. Essentially, with the Cambridge services, the fact that there is some small element of competition means that Abellio Greater Anglia can feel free to poo poo all over every other route because it's not like anyone else has a choice of how to travel.
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kingturnip posted:Stansted Express services - because they're subcontracted via C2C who have the franchise (and, therefore, could fine them for poor performance). Wait, what?
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Brovine posted:Wait, what? IIRC all the express services from London to the airports are sold as separate franchises from the lines they travel over.
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