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Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS

Waldorf Sixpence posted:

What did I do? Worse than Lord Kurse!

It's like the day I noticed Bait Masterson in Everquest.

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unseenlibrarian
Jun 4, 2012

There's only one thing in the mountains that leaves a track like this. The creature of legend that roams the Timberline. My people named him Sasquatch. You call him... Bigfoot.

Waldorf Sixpence posted:

Well you can hardly blame the players for that when Bioware do the exact same thing with their characters. Ever notice how Deron Cadoruso ("We fight for Revan!" Deron, so intense!) is an anagram of Canderous Ordo? :v:

And Sano Thrica is Carth Onasi, of course.

...Kurse seems to be the odd one out there unless I'm forgetting something.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Beniko -> Kenobi

While I don't know much about the expanded universe, I doubt there's an Anal Kenobi however.

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

Fuzz posted:

Yeah, the SW overall has the vibe, but in several places (particularly LS SI conversations with Ashara) the SI straight up breaks the Star Wars paradigm over its knee, and it's one of the reasons I don't get why people are so sore on the SI storyline, but I guess you'd miss all that if you play DS because hoooooly poo poo DS SI is a cartoonish psychopath. :allears:

I maintain that the SI storyline is a dumpster fire, but the SI characters are great.

Promethium
Dec 31, 2009
Dinosaur Gum

CharlieFoxtrot posted:

How long does it take to do an individual companion's quest line (to fill in that checkbox on the legacy screen)? I read some tip in the other thread not to talk to any of the companions while leveling to min-max their affection later, which probably also means I missed some big chunks of character development story-wise. I need to do those before the expansion drops...

You can get up to 8k affection with rank 1-2 companion gifts from the vendor on Fleet, which for min-max purposes you can do as soon as you get them before you start talking. Since conversations are gated by main story progress there's no need to avoid talking to them, just have a chat afterwards whenever one unlocks.

Aside from the more expensive gifts, a cheap way to finish up the last chunk of points is Belsavis daily quests but it is likely rather late for that; for some companions you can speed run Black Talon/Esseles and False Emperor for points.

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS

unseenlibrarian posted:

And Sano Thrica is Carth Onasi, of course.

...Kurse seems to be the odd one out there unless I'm forgetting something.

Haha searched for "Lord Kurse anagram" and came across this bit

quote:

It is a well known fact that Lana Beniko is Anal Kenobi

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Okay good, I'm not the only person who thought that.

unseenlibrarian
Jun 4, 2012

There's only one thing in the mountains that leaves a track like this. The creature of legend that roams the Timberline. My people named him Sasquatch. You call him... Bigfoot.
Really I'm just surprised that with all the Beniko and Theron banter they didn't make an Archer "Danger Zone" gag. I mean, a woman named Lana hanging out with a superspy? It's low-hanging fruit.

Waldorf Sixpence
Sep 6, 2004

Often harder on Player 2

unseenlibrarian posted:

And Sano Thrica is Carth Onasi, of course.

...Kurse seems to be the odd one out there unless I'm forgetting something.

:aaaaa: I saw Deron's anagram as soon as I stepped into the room but never saw Sano's!

Westminster System
Jul 4, 2009

Fuzz posted:

Yeah, he was a total rear end in a top hat to my DS SI, and it was hilarious. I really want to plow through SI again with an LS one, partly because I want a Sorc and partly because I just wanna see that storyline again.

As a LS Inquisitor all I can say is I feel like I'm Marr's running mate in some pseudo-election.

B-Mac
Apr 21, 2003
I'll never catch "the gay"!
I'm sure this has been answered before but when KoTFE drops will f2p players get the 6x bonus exp or will that remain a subscriber only perk still like the 12x xp is?

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

B-Mac posted:

I'm sure this has been answered before but when KoTFE drops will f2p players get the 6x bonus exp or will that remain a subscriber only perk still like the 12x xp is?

We don't know yet.

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

Westminster System posted:

As a LS Inquisitor all I can say is I feel like I'm Marr's running mate in some pseudo-election.

Marr/Imperius/Vowrawn '08 ATC: Change you can believe in.

CharlieFoxtrot
Mar 27, 2007

organize digital employees



Man, with what everyone's saying about LS Inquisitor I may have to call an audible and switch. I thought I'd try to go for a dark side character since I've done nothing but light, but...

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

CharlieFoxtrot posted:

Man, with what everyone's saying about LS Inquisitor I may have to call an audible and switch. I thought I'd try to go for a dark side character since I've done nothing but light, but...

Both Sith classes have very good character arcs to them if you play against type and go LS. Both are also hilariously evil characters if you go DS. Take your pick or make two of each.

Empress Theonora
Feb 19, 2001

She was a sword glinting in the depths of night, a lance of light piercing the darkness. There would be no mistakes this time.
I remember really liking Light Side Sith Warrior when I did it last year.

Haerc
Jan 2, 2011
I haven't gotten very far with him, but my DS consular is pretty hilarious. Everyone is all like, I THOUGHT YOU WERE THE GOOD GUYS!

Nerd Of Prey
Aug 10, 2002


Aphrodite posted:

Beniko -> Kenobi

While I don't know much about the expanded universe, I doubt there's an Anal Kenobi however.

My friends have a whole other joke about this, because when somebody first brought up the Beniko - Kenobi thing, somebody said "yeah but what's her first name an anagram for?" and I answered "Alan." So now we all call her Alan Kenobi. The anti-comedy of acting totally oblivious to the obvious butt joke is funnier to me, but to each their own.

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Also throwing this in to get my agent Starcherlin into the guild

DrunkenGarbageCan
Nov 4, 2009

Fuzz posted:

This is why Darth Marr is awesome, because he's LS as all gently caress. Marr basically is the LS Sith Warror, something he even sort of points out if you're an LS SW and do the SoR stuff... he specifically says that you're not that much different from him, and he knew the two of you would see eye to eye when he calls you the Empire's Wrath.

Eh calling Marr Light Side is a bit of a misnomer...he's just more pragmatic lawful evil than the cackling "gently caress you got mine" neutral evil Sith like the DS Inquis or Palpatine. He is definitely bloodthirsty and loves war, specifically murdering the heck out of the Republic and Jedi.

In the comics he also drove a Moff who had lost a battle to suicide just by showing him his face.

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band

Cythereal posted:

Marr/Imperius/Vowrawn '08 ATC: Change you can believe in.

Vowrawn was a riot; that guy is having more fun than anybody else in the game.

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012
What current crafting missons give the best $ versus time? I know once the expansion launches the new top tier crafting missons rewards will sell for stupidly high amounts but until then is it still level 4/5 stuff?

Eimi
Nov 23, 2013

I will never log offshut up.


DrunkenGarbageCan posted:

Eh calling Marr Light Side is a bit of a misnomer...he's just more pragmatic lawful evil than the cackling "gently caress you got mine" neutral evil Sith like the DS Inquis or Palpatine. He is definitely bloodthirsty and loves war, specifically murdering the heck out of the Republic and Jedi.

In the comics he also drove a Moff who had lost a battle to suicide just by showing him his face.

The way I see Marr is that he wants power, but he doesn't care how he gets it. If he gets to be in charge by being nice to people, he's all for that. If he has to step over some corpses he doesn't mind that. But the fact that he is willing to be nice to people is a big step up and makes him interesting. Also the whole hatred of the Jedi thing is still kind of justified even for a LS Sith. You have to remember that the Jedi and the Republic nearly wiped them all out in the Hyperspace War, which to the Republic was some minor thing, but to the Sith it was the whole near end of their civilization. It's also why everyone trusted Vitiate for so long, because he lead them to safety.

As for Marr's face, my bet is him looking like this

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

Eimi posted:

The way I see Marr is that he wants power, but he doesn't care how he gets it. If he gets to be in charge by being nice to people, he's all for that. If he has to step over some corpses he doesn't mind that. But the fact that he is willing to be nice to people is a big step up and makes him interesting. Also the whole hatred of the Jedi thing is still kind of justified even for a LS Sith. You have to remember that the Jedi and the Republic nearly wiped them all out in the Hyperspace War, which to the Republic was some minor thing, but to the Sith it was the whole near end of their civilization. It's also why everyone trusted Vitiate for so long, because he lead them to safety.

It helps, I think, that unlike most Darths you run into in TOR, Marr is very respectful towards the PC no matter your class. He doesn't try to impinge on the Bounty Hunter's independent nature, the Imperial Agent's secretive streak (or that the Agent is Darth Jadus' right hand), or either Sith's position in the hierarchy. You're the person he needs for the task at hand and he's not about to endanger that with a petty pissing match unless the PC is DS and as such a very dangerous instrument liable to do as much harm to the Empire as the actual enemy.

On Rishi, Bounty Hunters can even tell Mako that they have no problem with being the Dark Council's troubleshooter as long as it's people like Marr calling the shots rather than people like Tormen.

DrunkenGarbageCan
Nov 4, 2009

Eimi posted:

As for Marr's face, my bet is him looking like this

Lies and slander. Behold! The visage of an empire...

Search your feelings; You know it to be true!

Eimi
Nov 23, 2013

I will never log offshut up.


DrunkenGarbageCan posted:

Lies and slander. Behold! The visage of an empire...

Search your feelings; You know it to be true!

Did you mean ? :v:

unseenlibrarian
Jun 4, 2012

There's only one thing in the mountains that leaves a track like this. The creature of legend that roams the Timberline. My people named him Sasquatch. You call him... Bigfoot.
I'm still laying odds that Darth Marr turns out to be the long-lost descendant of Visas Marr and is thus super-creepy looking because no eyes.

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

unseenlibrarian posted:

I'm still laying odds that Darth Marr turns out to be the long-lost descendant of Visas Marr and is thus super-creepy looking because no eyes.

Possible, but that would make things awkward for the Bounty Hunter considering they kill a descendant of Visas as the big boss of the BH's Act 2. :v:

Defiance Industries
Jul 22, 2010

A five-star manufacturer


Cythereal posted:

Possible, but that would make things awkward for the Bounty Hunter considering they kill a descendant of Visas as the big boss of the BH's Act 2. :v:

Or Darth Marr is a big fan because you eliminated a threat to his inheritance.

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS
Nah, they'll have a contest where the winner gets to have his face digitally modeled and turned into Marr's maskless face.

Ainsley McTree
Feb 19, 2004


Medullah posted:

Nah, they'll have a contest where the winner gets to have his face digitally modeled and turned into Marr's maskless face.

As long as I can gay romance him i don't care

DrunkenGarbageCan
Nov 4, 2009

Eimi posted:

Did you mean ? :v:

It was the only Kephess image I had saved. Don't blame me if BW used Qyzen placeholders for Kephess Achievements. :colbert:

Edit: Besides we all really know how Marr's unmasking will go.

DrunkenGarbageCan fucked around with this message at 02:13 on Oct 13, 2015

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS

DrunkenGarbageCan posted:

It was the only Kephess image I had saved. Don't blame me if BW used Qyzen placeholders for Kephess Achievements. :colbert:

Edit: Besides we all really know how Marr's unmasking will go.

HAhaha is it sad that I figured it would be either that scene or Large Marge?

Fuzz
Jun 2, 2003

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Medullah posted:

HAhaha is it sad that I figured it would be either that scene or Large Marge?

He beat me to the punch, I was looking up that same video clip, haha. But yeah, I thought of those two things immediately, as well.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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For all the handwringing about emotions and the suppression thereof the Jedi are still correct that light-side is the way to go and that the dark side is bad and uncool. You don't even need to approach it from a moral standpoint so much as the fact that the competent choices that lead to long-term success are light side ones.

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.
Which is the reason Marr cites when he names the LS Inquisitor Darth Imperius. Your actions, unorthodox though they may be, have consistently strengthened the Empire as a whole, and Marr bestows the name Imperius as a result.

Fuzz
Jun 2, 2003

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Fojar38 posted:

For all the handwringing about emotions and the suppression thereof the Jedi are still correct that light-side is the way to go and that the dark side is bad and uncool. You don't even need to approach it from a moral standpoint so much as the fact that the competent choices that lead to long-term success are light side ones.

The problem is that Jedi != Light Side and Sith != Dark Side. They're 4 different things.

Light Side = Choosing others over yourself, pursuing balance, being fair, being merciful, forgiving.

Dark Side = Being selfish, choosing power above all else and at the expense of others, using/abusing/killing others for personal gain, being vengeful, being greedy, holding grudges.

Jedi = Eschewing emotion and personal attachments in order to stave off corruption and more easily follow the Light Side. The Force can only be accessed through strict discipline and self control.

Sith = Giving in to your emotions and through them accessing the Force.


The former two are mutually exclusive, the latter two are mutually exclusive, but the two pairs can cross in any combination. Jedi/Sith is like the dichotomy between Vulcans/Humans in Star Trek... Vulcans are all about self control and lack of emotions because they're inherently extremely emotional and their blood runs hot. Humans embrace their emotions and often use their gut or emotional reasons to justify their actions. Even in Star Trek, there are both good and evil humans and Vulcans.

YES I REFERENCED STAR TREK IN A STAR WARS THREAD. gently caress YOU. :arghfist::smug:

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS
FYI guys guild is getting full (at 485 and it was at 450 a few days ago) and I'm down to kicking people that haven't logged in for 40-50 days (prevously it was 60-70). There's no limit to how many people you can have in the guild, BUT if you've got alts that you leveled to see the story and have zero intention of ever playing again and feel like removing them to make room for more people, go for it. If you're actively going to play them, then don't worry about it - I'm talking about that Operative you made to see the Imperial Agent from the female story perspective, got to 50 and said "Never playing her again."

Again, not gonna force anyone to boot their alts but there is a cap of 500 and I have a feeling KOTFE will bring some people back along with some new people (Which is awesome). If things continue the way they've been then we can get a runoff guild going for alts.

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS
Oh man I love going to the official forums so much.

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Fritz Coldcockin
Nov 7, 2005

Medullah posted:

FYI guys guild is getting full (at 485 and it was at 450 a few days ago) and I'm down to kicking people that haven't logged in for 40-50 days (prevously it was 60-70). There's no limit to how many people you can have in the guild, BUT if you've got alts that you leveled to see the story and have zero intention of ever playing again and feel like removing them to make room for more people, go for it. If you're actively going to play them, then don't worry about it - I'm talking about that Operative you made to see the Imperial Agent from the female story perspective, got to 50 and said "Never playing her again."

Again, not gonna force anyone to boot their alts but there is a cap of 500 and I have a feeling KOTFE will bring some people back along with some new people (Which is awesome). If things continue the way they've been then we can get a runoff guild going for alts.

Runoff guild wouldn't allow for green chat though :(

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