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I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Fathis Munk posted:

The a in aids stands for acquired, it has nothing to do with autoimmunity :science:

Also muzzy told me English, the good ol' clock eating scallywag.

What does the i stand for, though?

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Fathis Munk
Feb 23, 2013

??? ?
Immune ? I don't know what you're getting at here but aids is Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome. Autoimmune diseases suck but they are part of a completely different spectrum of diseases ? In HIV/AIDS the body does not fight itself, the virus comes in to wreck your immune system. It's a good ol' infection and not at all autoimmune.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Although one does effect the other. Some autoimmune diseases can disappear or become less severe during stage II of the disease. Others sometimes appear during stage III, so it's swings and roundabouts and then you die.

It would be interesting if modified HIV could be used to treat autoimmune conditions, similar to how it gained fame as a novel leukemia therapy.

Fathis Munk
Feb 23, 2013

??? ?
The envelope protein of HIV has an immunosuppressive domain that people are currently using to try and reduce graft rejection. Also that same immunosuppressive domain might help in materno-fetal tolerance through syncytins.

(I'll stop the derail here cause this is very much my research topic and I could go on for aaaaages.)

E: still, aids is not autoimmune itself. It wrecks the immune system so it affects a lot of other stuff, but it's not autoimmune.

Islam is the Lite Rock FM
Jul 27, 2007

by exmarx
You're such a nerd.

Fathis Munk
Feb 23, 2013

??? ?
:eng99:

Tiberius Thyben
Feb 7, 2013

Gone Phishing


VitalSigns posted:

Wait wait wait, what is wacky and implausible about the official explanation for the attacks. Do you mean the official US government explanation: that 19 men from Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, Egypt, and Emirates hijacked four airliners and flew them into the WTC, the Pentagon, and an empty field in Pennsylvania?

You know, I was almost proud that nobody fell for the obvious dumb response trying to get a rise out of people. But D&D... D&D never changes.

ColdSnickersBar
Apr 7, 2005

Tiberius Thyben posted:

You know, I was almost proud that nobody fell for the obvious dumb response trying to get a rise out of people. But D&D... D&D never changes.

I'm not the guy to which you're replying, and this is a sort of aside, but an interesting fact is that a think tank called The Project For A New American Century: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century wrote, before 9/11, that a "new Pearl Harbor" should be used to accelerate their plan for a forever-war in the Middle East, resulting in a global US police role. The members of the Project were the future Bush cabinet, including Cheney and Rumsfeld. So, while 9/11 did happen like the official version says, the Administration knew exactly how they wanted to use the event. You can read their intention to do so right in the Wikipedia page.

ColdSnickersBar fucked around with this message at 00:04 on Oct 13, 2015

Duke Igthorn
Oct 11, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

quote:

In the second place, the fear of being called "racist" cuts both ways. I think it will be quite instructive to see how the progressive left manages to criticise a "person of color" without having the same charge levelled at them.

17 posted on 10/11/2015, 1:31:47 AM by Vanders9
Hmmmm...thought provoking...never thought of it that way. Hmmm...well I guess I can give it a try on Ben Carson.

"God I hate that black guy for being so drat black and there's just something about the black way he shucks and jives and boy I bet he can't swim and something about him just makes it seem that he's not from 'round here can we even trust his wife who is probably a welfare queen??"

Holy poo poo he's right!! I've severely underestimated FREEP! Why, every time there's a story about African Americans almost a full 5% of them don't automatically scream "URBAN FERAL" until they pass out and only about 80% of their spittle flecked monitors get punched holding back the urge to scream the n-word at the mailman just in case he's a secret black! They're truly saints!

McNerd
Aug 28, 2007

quote:

In the second place, the fear of being called "racist" cuts both ways. I think it will be quite instructive to see how the progressive left manages to criticise a "person of color" without having the same charge levelled at them.

Yes it would be. Pay attention and you might learn something.

Meanwhile in the real world, Carson will embarrass himself while you stick your fingers in your ears and complain about double standards.

Keeshhound
Jan 14, 2010

Mad Duck Swagger
Is it True Donald Trump Cannot Win the Presidency?

Mostly what you'd expect, but:

quote:

To: catnipman
There was never a black president until there was.


42 posted on 10/12/2015, 9:08:31 PM by 2ndDivisionVet (TED CRUZ. You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)

I... what? :psyduck: This is some ZEN poo poo.

quote:

To: 2ndDivisionVet; Jane Long; BlackFemaleArmyCaptain; Black Agnes; djstex; mkjessup; visualops; ...
TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP
SILENT NO LONGER!!

TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP
AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!

TRUMP RUMP TRUMP
LOUDER AND LOUDER!

TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP
AMERICA HAS A CHANCE TO SURVIVE ALL EVIL FORCES!!

TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP
PRAISE THE LORD, OUR GOD IN HEAVEN AMEN!

Thank you from a FRiend....

Trump: I’m never dropping out!!!

Does this answer your question? Where are the other candidates bills? Where are the other candidates leading in the polls since June? Where are the other candidates money coming from? HUMMM? Just asking.....NOT one of them as much as TRUMP!!!


56 posted on 10/12/2015, 9:19:19 PM by HarleyLady27 (I have such happy days, and hope you do too!!!)

Keeshhound fucked around with this message at 03:05 on Oct 13, 2015

AVeryLargeRadish
Aug 19, 2011

I LITERALLY DON'T KNOW HOW TO NOT BE A WEIRD SEXUAL CREEP ABOUT PREPUBESCENT ANIME GIRLS, READ ALL ABOUT IT HERE!!!

Keeshhound posted:

Is it True Donald Trump Cannot Win the Presidency?

Mostly what you'd expect, but:


I... what? :psyduck: This is some ZEN poo poo.

Oh god, I want Trump to win the primary so much, but not as much as some Freepers. :allears:

Also TRUMP RUMP TRUMP!

Egg Moron
Jul 21, 2003

the dreams of the delighting void

Keeshhound posted:

Is it True Donald Trump Cannot Win the Presidency?

TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP
SILENT NO LONGER!!

TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP
AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!

TRUMP RUMP TRUMP
LOUDER AND LOUDER!

TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP
AMERICA HAS A CHANCE TO SURVIVE ALL EVIL FORCES!!

TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP
PRAISE THE LORD, OUR GOD IN HEAVEN AMEN!

Badera
Jan 30, 2012

Student Brian Boyko has lost faith in America.

Don't besmirch Kim Il-Sung like that.

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

Keeshhound posted:

Is it True Donald Trump Cannot Win the Presidency?

Mostly what you'd expect, but:


I... what? :psyduck: This is some ZEN poo poo.

I have seen the origins of this generation's Horst Wessel Lied.

Prism
Dec 22, 2007

yospos

Zeroisanumber posted:

I have seen the origins of this generation's Horst Wessel Lied.

The Worst Wessel Lied.

Rogue 7
Oct 13, 2012

Prism posted:

The Worst Wessel Lied.

Where are the nucwear wessels?

Bait and Swatch
Sep 5, 2012

Join me, Comrades
In the Star Citizen D&D thread
Confederate flag supporters were charged with terrorism over an altercation they had at a black kid's party: http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/10/12/448075177/confederate-flag-supporters-in-georgia-indicted-on-terrorism-charges

I didn't see anything on it from freep yet, but it should be glorious once they discover it.

Tias
May 25, 2008

Pictured: the patron saint of internet political arguments (probably)

This avatar made possible by a gift from the Religionthread Posters Relief Fund

Bait and Swatch posted:

Confederate flag supporters were charged with terrorism over an altercation they had at a black kid's party: http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/10/12/448075177/confederate-flag-supporters-in-georgia-indicted-on-terrorism-charges

I didn't see anything on it from freep yet, but it should be glorious once they discover it.

Okay, this is going to own big time :allears:

Islam is the Lite Rock FM
Jul 27, 2007

by exmarx

Tias posted:

Okay, this is going to own big time :allears:

I can't find it but here have some other poo poo.

Michigan Man Fired over refusing to not fly flag of traitors

quote:

The one who can make the biggest ‘stink’ is always the winner in these sorts of things.

On the other hand for every incident like this the ‘anger’ grows and one day it will explode. No one knows when and no one knows what ‘incident’ will light the fuse. But deep down we all know that it will happen.

5 posted on 10/13/2015, 6:16:47 AM by The Working Man
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I’d say, “why don’t you bring the people here that I’ve offended so we can discuss this?”. You know drat well no one has complained. I bet the HR employee is of the perpetually offended class and throwing her weight around reverse racism style.

16 posted on 10/13/2015, 6:32:44 AM by jsanders2001
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If only we had some other flag to respect ARE TROOPS

quote:

Maybe...they just hate Southern Veterans and are truly racist.

On May 23, 1958, Congress passed Law 85-425, section 410, designating Confederate veterans as American war veterans.

By the government’s own designation, the Confederate battle flag is considered an American military flag and has been carried by U.S. soldiers from Iwo Jima to Baghdad.

Out of respect for these American veterans, the Confederate Battle flag certainly does have a place of honor! Those I say, those people (after reading the above law) who try to take their HONOR away by dragging our flag down for their own selfies stupid reasons dishonors and spits in all veterans faces......on-going

17 posted on 10/13/2015, 6:35:10 AM by triSranch (You only get to keep in this world what you actually fight for...)
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HATE HATE HATE says Kefka

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Someone should complain that the boss’s truck is red. Red is offensive. And another employee’s car has white wall tires. White? Thats offensive. They should remove the tires right now. Offended! Offended!
And I am offended that the plant has grey painted walls. They should demolish the entire plant and build a new one.

21 posted on 10/13/2015, 6:46:57 AM by envisio (I ain't here long... I'm out of napalm and .22 bullets.)
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Literal children.

quote:

I would walk the parking lot and make anonymous complaints about all the obama stickers. See if they have to be removed.

31 posted on 10/13/2015, 7:27:38 AM by rfreedom4u (Rick Chollett for President!)
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quote:

Well this could be a very slippery slope. Is there a line where you might think the employer has gone too far?

American flag
Pro-Life sticker
GOP sticker
Athletic team sticker that the employer doesn’t like
Maybe the employer is a Chevy man, and he won’t let the Ford logo in his lot.
The fish logo some cars have

Give an inch...they take a mile.

36 posted on 10/13/2015, 7:57:35 AM by lacrew
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Boywhiz88
Sep 11, 2005

floating 26" off da ground. BURR!
lol at that last comment. Welcome to "right to work"

jerry seinfel
Jun 25, 2007


Something about "the fish logo some cars have" really sticks with me based on the demographic of the poster that wrote it.

Islam is the Lite Rock FM
Jul 27, 2007

by exmarx

hcenvirons posted:

Something about "the fish logo some cars have" really sticks with me based on the demographic of the poster that wrote it.

Is it because said poster doesn't have a clue why it's a fish and not a cross?

Strange Charm
Apr 6, 2008

Americans Are Void of Critical Thinking Skills

OH BOY

quote:

Hence the low-info voter.

Also, I think it's important to have a "Truth" detector to separate the wheat from the chafe.

During the time that I've been a FReeper, I've had the occasion to read thoughts and posts from many hundreds of FReepers and it seems the common theme is that, for the most part, we all share a Christian or Jewish worldview.

Now, that's not to say we don't have many non-believers here too, and I know several who are brilliant, but the majority of us follow God's Word the best we are able.

Having said this, I ask the question:

Is it too late for America to recover from it's collective lack of critical thinking skills?
1 posted on 13/10/2015, 15:03:29 by PROCON
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quote:

47% of Americans are void of critical thinking skills.

3 posted on 13/10/2015, 15:06:37 by Sacajaweau
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Exhibit 1: The presidency of Barack Obama.

They’ve been dumbing people down for a century or so. Apparent it worked. Shame.

7 posted on 13/10/2015, 15:09:33 by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!Just read)
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quote:

Public Schools:

“Mission Accomplished!”

11 posted on 13/10/2015, 15:13:30 by headsonpikes (Mass murder and cannibalism are the twin sacraments of socialism - "Who-whom?"-Lenin)
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quote:


Our online world is a two-edged sword when it comes to critical thinking. On the one hand, critical thinking is negated by the internet supplanting the books and conversation that often form the questions which inspire critical thinking. On the other hand, if we think critically to some extent in the first place, the internet provides instant access to the answers we seek.

12 posted on 13/10/2015, 15:18:21 by yetidog
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quote:

The problem is not the technology.

The problem is the refusal of the left to realize that the utopia the envision, is not possible. They want to re-educate, and outright ban that which demonstrates that utopia is not attainable. They use all manner to deprive those at the bottom of their dignity, and to deprive the middle of the fruits of their labors.

Only they (who they believe ought to be on top), who are the anointed ones, are smart enough to create the utopia they desire, and all others must be forced to conform to the left’s vision.

In that, there is the absence of a Judeo/Christian worldview. This worldview places God at the top, not the state, and thus God must be banned or replaced with leftist thinking, and the state must be the new God.

14 posted on 13/10/2015, 15:20:38 by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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quote:

We might be the dumbest people to ever live.

18 posted on 13/10/2015, 15:28:27 by Awgie (truth is always stranger than fiction)
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I love this one.

quote:

Destroying the public school system alone would eventually do the trick.

23 posted on 13/10/2015, 15:37:34 by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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Thanks to Kant's and his followers' rejection of reason and reality, which leads to rejection of objectivity, and the triumph of the subjectivistic, emotionalistic, and skeptic mode of thought.
34 posted on 13/10/2015, 16:05:18 by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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drat skeptics and their hatred of critical thinking! :freep:

Neo_Crimson
Aug 15, 2011

"Is that your final dandy?"
The "why is everyone but me so dumb" is so endemic on the internet not even Freepers can make it funny anymore.

Go RV!
Jun 19, 2008

Uglier on the inside.

I know we just changed but my god

Freepers: We might be the dumbest people to ever live. 

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Go RV! posted:

I know we just changed but my god

Freepers: We might be the dumbest people to ever live. 
This.

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

Fathis Munk posted:

Another interesting poll imo


I'd just like to know what the 2-4 % of responders picking 'another country' were thinking of. China (not realizing the poll was about defeating Germany)? Canada? Poland? Srbija?

It's telling that even Germans and Finns, who fought against the Red Army, got it wrong, though much less than others.

Nenonen fucked around with this message at 18:03 on Oct 13, 2015

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Nenonen posted:

I'd just like to know what the 2-4 % of responders picking 'another country' were thinking of. China (not realizing the poll was about defeating Germany)? Canada? Poland? Srbija?
For France it's probably the Free French forces, for Finland it's almost definitely Finland. For Britain it's probably people thinking that England or Scotland are countries. For Germany it could be Germany, they did quite a lot to contribute to the defeat of Germany in World War Two.

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

Guavanaut posted:

For France it's probably the Free French forces, for Finland it's almost definitely Finland. For Britain it's probably people thinking that England or Scotland are countries. For Germany it could be Germany, they did quite a lot to contribute to the defeat of Germany in World War Two.

Well this one German WW1 veteran did after all sacrifice his life by killing Hitler. He should have been given an Order of Lenin for that!

McNerd
Aug 28, 2007

quote:

l this could be a very slippery slope. Is there a line where you might think the employer has gone too far?

American flag
Pro-Life sticker
GOP sticker
Athletic team sticker that the employer doesn’t like
Maybe the employer is a Chevy man, and he won’t let the Ford logo in his lot.
The fish logo some cars have

Give an inch...they take a mile.

It's great when people pick the world's least slippery slopes to point at. Man, it's been since the Civil War and the Confederate flag has gone from flying over government buildings to flying over fewer government buildings. By the time they get around to confiscating your Jesus fish you can just laugh at them and zoom off to Pluto in your hover bubble.

SubponticatePoster
Aug 9, 2004

Every day takes figurin' out all over again how to fuckin' live.
Slippery Tilde

quote:

47% of Americans are void of critical thinking skills.

3 posted on 13/10/2015, 15:06:37 by Sacajaweau
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This is incredibly magical when you know that Romney got 47% of the popular vote.

e: also "void"

Twelve by Pies
May 4, 2012

Again a very likpatous story

quote:

The one who can make the biggest ‘stink’ is always the winner in these sorts of things.

On the other hand for every incident like this the ‘anger’ grows and one day it will explode. No one knows when and no one knows what ‘incident’ will light the fuse. But deep down we all know that it will happen.

5 posted on 10/13/2015, 6:16:47 AM by The Working Man

And deep down we all know that when it does happen, Freepers will dismiss it as a false flag.

jerry seinfel
Jun 25, 2007


Hey Freep thread, long time listener, first time miner.

Went looking for Paul Ryan stuff, found a MLK thread.


quote:

MLK monument to be built above Confederate heroes at Stone Mountain
new pittsburgh courier online ^ | 13/10/2015 | Terry Shropshire
Posted on 10/13/2015, 3:13:14 PM by bob_denard

STONE MOUNTAIN, Ga. — State officials have confirmed that a monument to celebrate Martin Luther King Jr. will be built “above and beyond” the monument that celebrate the heroes of the Confederacy on the gigantic rock at Stone Mountain Park.

According the Associated Press and the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, Georgia Gov. Nathan Deal has signed off on the project. Park officials said that an elevated tower — featuring a replica of the Liberty Bell — would celebrate the single line in the civil rights martyr’s 1963 “I Have a Dream” speech that makes reference to the 825-foot-tall hunk of granite: “Let freedom ring from Stone Mountain of Georgia.”

Well this is bad but I guess it could be worse?

quote:

To: bob_denard
Someone pointed out on the original thread what a lightning magnet this will be.


5 posted on 10/13/2015, 3:20:14 PM by sparklite2 (Eagles fan after loss to Dallas -- This is the first time I ever saw the "prevent offense".)
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Uhh.

quote:

To: bob_denard
MLK doesn’t deserve a monument anywhere. He doesn’t deserve to have any streets, schools, or anything else named after him. He was a plagiarist, an instigator of riots, a whoremonger, an adulterer, and a liar.


6 posted on 10/13/2015, 3:21:20 PM by euram
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FALSE FLAG

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To: sparklite2
And the first time it’s hit and destroyed, evil republicans will be blamed. Well, them and the tea party, conservatives and bible thumping gun owners.


7 posted on 10/13/2015, 3:22:31 PM by GeorgiaDawg32 (https://www.greenhornshooting.com - Professional handgun training.)
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To: bob_denard
Where are they going to get a piece of coal that large????


9 posted on 10/13/2015, 3:22:58 PM by bikerman (2015 new motto--- slugs for thugs.)
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To: bob_denard
Why can't they find their own mountain?
I guess because no one would bother to go look at it. They gotta parasite of the White man.

12 posted on 10/13/2015, 3:26:08 PM by Cowboy Bob (With "Nobody builds walls better than me "Some, I assume, are good people" "Why doesn't he show his birth certificate" "I will be the greatest jobs president that God ever created" Donald Trump & Cruz, America can't lose!)
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To: bob_denard
Black capital of America

Man if whites left it would be cannibalism on a huge scale


15 posted on 10/13/2015, 3:27:43 PM by wardaddy (The establishment needs destroying)
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quote:

shitload of racist pictures

quote:

To: massgopguy
It’s all part of the plan to all but erase the white man from the history books, and keep him marginalized from here on in.

Getting rid of the Confederate Battle Flag was an important step to eliminating any knowledge of the Southern heritage and the honor that culture represents.

Most employers by law have to populate their offices with women, blacks, browns, homosexuals, and various ‘disadvantaged’ before considering the straight white male. One only has to open their eyes when going about their daily lives to see this is true.

Several cities have officially thrown out Columbus Day in favor of ‘Indigenous People’s Day’. Schools don’t teach classic literature anymore, and the list goes on and on.

Observe how the white male is portrayed on television and commercials these days. The black and brown male and female are shown as intelligent, calm, cool, and collected, while the white guy is a sloppy, dumb @$$, with always a disheveled look.

All part of the plan, and the white guilt crowd is more than happy to accomodate.


29 posted on 10/13/2015, 3:49:20 PM by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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It's one thing to read things other people picked out, it's another to get Full Freep.

And not a single COMMENT REMOVED BY MODERATOR in sight!

jerry seinfel fucked around with this message at 21:15 on Oct 13, 2015

Zanzibar Ham
Mar 17, 2009

You giving me the cold shoulder? How cruel.


Grimey Drawer
That there is the conservative opinion of MLK 364 days a year.

McNerd
Aug 28, 2007

quote:

And the first time it’s hit and destroyed, evil republicans will be blamed. Well, them and the tea party, conservatives and bible thumping gun owners.

Just how many times does this guy imagine an MLK memorial will get blown up exactly?

"Hey Jim can you watch my kids next Saturday?"

"Sorry, no dice. If you could see the amount of "I Eat Babies" posters I have up around my house you'd understand. It's like, when dirty cops break in and make your baby into soup, who's going to wind up in jail? Not them let me tell you."

McNerd fucked around with this message at 21:39 on Oct 13, 2015

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

hcenvirons posted:

Hey Freep thread, long time listener, first time miner.

Went looking for Paul Ryan stuff, found a MLK thread.

This isn't as good (or fun) as my desire for few tons of TNT to erase the carving from Stone Mountain but having a MLK monument standing over the carving is still pretty great. I wonder how much Deal is getting in bribes and kickbacks because he sure as gently caress doesn't ever do a good deed for free.

Ghetto Prince
Sep 11, 2010

got to be mellow, y'all
Does anyone know how many Freepers are left? It seems like there's only a few dozen active posters.

Islam is the Lite Rock FM
Jul 27, 2007

by exmarx
They seem to keep hitting their fundraising goals each quarter. So quite a few to get to the ridiculous 80k.

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SwitchbladeKult
Apr 4, 2012



"The warmth of life has entered my tomb!"

Go RV! posted:

I know we just changed but my god

Freepers: We might be the dumbest people to ever live. 

This is gold right here.

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