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Dislike button posted:It does not look good Hasn't this been said for like the last 10 years now?
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They are losing money and have no new products in the direct pipeline. The only new products they do have they can't produce many because of yield problems.
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Oct 16, 2015 00:52
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That spin off probably buys them enough time to limp into 2016 and Zen. So Zen or bust
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Oct 16, 2015 00:54
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Now is the time when
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Crotch Fruit posted:Now is the time when They've already called every government agency they know and said that. It's got them some cash, but these results already include that...
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So will we see an intel breakup after which the bastard child of half of intel and half of AMD leftovers competes with the bastard child of the other half of intel and the other half of AMD leftovers in a really awkward and inefficient way?
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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We will never see a meaningful Intel breakup. We might see Intel forced to roll off some of its minor portions like SSDs or the production of NUCs, but there's simply no sensible way to split up the CPU manufacturing.
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Oct 17, 2015 14:42
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Nintendo Kid posted:We will never see a meaningful Intel breakup. Of course splitting the CPU division would be dumb, but I wounder if anyone would actually try to break up the CPU monopoly that way.
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Oct 17, 2015 18:33
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Intel has an x86 monopoly, not a cpu monopoly.
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Oct 17, 2015 19:43
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ARM/iOS/Android arguably present enough competition for Intel to argue that it doesn't have a monopoly on the overall personal computing market.
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Oct 19, 2015 08:10
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I agree that Intel will never get broken up, but there really isn't any alternative to x86--ARM is not it if you actually have poo poo to do. Plus it leaves Intel as the only server chip vendor of any scale.
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Oct 19, 2015 08:38
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sincx posted:ARM/iOS/Android arguably present enough competition for Intel to argue that it doesn't have a monopoly on the overall personal computing market. But you probably CAN argue that it has a functional monopoly on the general-purpose computing/software development market. (I mean, there ARE ARM devices that are both current enough to be at all useful AND aren't gatekept front-to-back, but I'm pretty sure no one's going to make the next killer iApp on a Raspberry Pi.)
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Oct 19, 2015 09:20
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I think if there's a pretty good case on the defence not a lot of people are going to be much happy with the prospect of getting into expensive legal proceedings without a good idea that they'll end in a set time-frame.
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Oct 19, 2015 15:09
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WCCFtech with positive AMD rumors: * Both Zen and K12 have successfully taped out on modern-day FinFET processes. * AMD to make semi-custom SOC designs for Apple and Nintendo.
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Oct 19, 2015 16:04
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Question: What would Apple gain from custom silicon that it doesn't have already?
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Oct 19, 2015 16:15
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Answer: HBM-enabled APUs.
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Oct 19, 2015 16:25
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Apple has been pushing 5K displays and therefore needs significant GPU power. Getting an x86 plus significant GPU power into one chip is like the only thing AMD can do now. Apple also likes to use multiple sources / get part sources to compete with each other on general principle.
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Rastor posted:WCCFtech with positive AMD rumors: Source: some guy's resume where they're included in a list.  Gotta love WCCFtech.
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Better than Anonymous Sources
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http://www.eetimes.com/document.asp?doc_id=1328037&_mc=RSS_EET_EDT Looks like AMD sold off their majority stake in the assembly/test/packaging plants. They haven't had fabs for a while, now they don't own their A/T facilities either
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Oct 19, 2015 21:55
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Because they were idle
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Overall it's really weird to think about how much faster my 4690K is than my old high-school XP 1800+. Like according to UserBenchmark that's a minimum of a 14x difference vs the 2200+, so maybe something more like 16-18x vs the 1800+. Let alone the old K6-2 400, or the improvements from SSDs, etc. I remember my dad upgrading the K6-2 400 from a Matrox Mystique to a Rage Pro so I could play Freespace. Now we have bitchin' GPUs that can do compute and poo poo, and everything Just Works. It's disappointing the days of those performance increases are over 
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I guess I could post over here too. Tweaktown says that 400-series silicon just taped out. Not-top-of-the-line silicon, but silicon called Baffin and Ellesmere. While you could argue that, like Nvidia, they are taping out their low end first before taping out their flagship, I think it's more likely that Baffin/Ellesmere cores will be integrated into Zen APUs, so they need them tested and working now, not later. http://www.tweaktown.com/news/48121/amds-radeon-400-series-ellesmere-baffin-gpus-taped/index.html
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Sometime ago Intel recently bought part of VIA technologies, their router chips IIRC. It appears we now might have an idea what VIA got out of it - x86 license extension. Not much to look at when an Athlon 5350 beats it up but there is apparently either an Octacore design as well or it's hyperthreaded. Unless it can beat an Atom for perf/watt, why? VIA itself does not have the funds to compete.
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FaustianQ posted:Sometime ago Intel recently bought part of VIA technologies, their router chips IIRC. It appears we now might have an idea what VIA got out of it - x86 license extension. VIA has spent the last five years selling digital signage. I have no idea what they're trying to do...
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Paul MaudDib posted:It's disappointing the days of those performance increases are over Well, more significant increases anyhow. I agree it used to be awesome hearing about new CPU/GPU tech because back 15-17 years ago, a 100Mhz increase in speed was noticeable. Like, going from an old Pentium 166Mhz desktop to a K6-2 350 with almost double the memory was night and day difference. I still recall when I went from playing Quake/Quake 2 on the "system" default settings to playing on a Voodoo 2 12MB accelerator in OpenGL goodness and how much better and faster everything was.
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Jim Keller immediately gets picked up by Samsung. So either he is a ronin moving from company to company working on only things that interest him or he jumped off a sinking ship. Only one of these two things, there is no other explanation
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WhyteRyce posted:Jim Keller immediately gets picked up by Samsung. So either he is a ronin moving from company to company working on only things that interest him or he jumped off a sinking ship. Only one of these two things, there is no other explanation If we keep this speculation train going, this thread might be the first in SH/SC history to produce fanart. Yaoi Gagarin fucked around with this message at 21:48 on Oct 26, 2015 |
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VostokProgram posted:If we keep this speculation train going, this thread might be the first in SH/SC history to produce fanart. What color would his armor/lightsaber be if/when he joins Intel?
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Oct 26, 2015 22:49
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WhyteRyce posted:Jim Keller immediately gets picked up by Samsung. So either he is a ronin moving from company to company working on only things that interest him or he jumped off a sinking ship. Only one of these two things, there is no other explanation
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Qualcomm should have grabbed him first. Maybe then they could solve some of those heat problems that the Snapdragons have got.
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Oct 27, 2015 00:56
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2018, Jim Keller leaves Samsung to join Qualcomm
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Oct 27, 2015 00:58
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He should have just bought TI's assets and done everything himself
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Oct 27, 2015 01:09
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WhyteRyce posted:He should have just bought TI's assets and done everything himself Would buy those chips.
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SwissArmyDruid posted:Qualcomm should have grabbed him first. Maybe then they could solve some of those heat problems that the Snapdragons have got. Qualcomm was already working on their own (presumably cooler-running) custom cores, they just weren't ready yet when everyone jumped to 64-bit.
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So Jim Keller is this microprocessor genius who goes to a place, fixes whatever problems they have, and leaves to find other problems to solve?
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sincx posted:So Jim Keller is this microprocessor genius who goes to a place, fixes whatever problems they have, and leaves to find other problems to solve? He is the Mary Poppins of processor designing.
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Oct 27, 2015 14:42
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Switching companies isn't that weird. In my line of work it's usually done because it's easier to move up (both in title and payscale) than internal promotion.
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sincx posted:So Jim Keller is this microprocessor genius who goes to a place, fixes whatever problems they have, and leaves to find other problems to solve? VostokProgram posted:I choose to believe that Jim Keller is a chip design cowboy who rides into town when AMD needs him the most, fixes their poo poo, and then rides out into the sunset. FaustianQ posted:
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Lowen SoDium posted:He is the Mary Poppins of processor designing. SuperTechEnthusiasticFixingUpTheDullChips
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