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Crotch Bat posted:Will a GTX 960 2GB with an i7 be good enough for this? I don't really care about ULTRA MAX FULL ON 120FPS poo poo, I just want like 50-60fps steady on maybe high. We'll find out soon enough. Developers and publishers have been inflating minimum and recommended PC specs for years. I can tell you that on my backup machine, an ancient i7 950 with 12GB RAM and a 3-way SLI GTX 670 I get constant 60fps with only occasional drops on nearly max settings in GTA V. That's an almost 7 year old machine that runs almost as well as my current-gen i7. Unless Bethesda have royally screwed the pooch, I doubt any PC built in the last 5 years will have trouble finding a setting to run this at. Having said that, Bethesda's engines have always been bad, so it might take a few patches to get things there. Or they will flat out refuse to patch their steaming pile of poo poo and pull out the recommended specs as a reason for why it doesn't work for 3/4 of the user base.
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SwitchbladeKult posted:There are multiple ways to match dialogue and the character animations. It is not always record audio first then animate the lip flaps to match what was recorded. Either way, I'm sure it'll be easy for them to massage any awkwardly written lines on the fly. Well if you don't record it first then it's ADR. And doing ADR to virtual lips with no guide is impossible. Sorry. Source: I work in audio post for 15 years.
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Oct 16, 2015 10:02
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VocalizePlayerDeath posted:If by real you mean an actor in a costume, you are correct. Yes, people do have naturally floating guns on their backs, you are right.
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Oct 16, 2015 10:17
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It's most likely made by a studio like Blur. They are really good realistic cgi.
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Oct 16, 2015 10:19
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Mordaedil posted:Yes, people do have naturally floating guns on their backs, you are right. I'm sorry. I was speaking in regards to the dog and robot.
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Oct 16, 2015 10:41
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Jst0rm posted:Well if you don't record it first then it's ADR. And doing ADR to virtual lips with no guide is impossible. Sorry. At this point most game developers have automated lip movement software that uses on the audio to generate the animations, which allows for lip sync in any language without additional animating work. Source: also work in audio post for 10 years.
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Oct 16, 2015 10:47
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Psychotic Weasel posted:
I just enjoy how offended some people get that J Fallout is into what the player wants them to be into. People were actually upset about FNV because you could be a dude who slept with dudes, and I want those people to have no safespaces outside of 8chan. Can't wait to use my immortal dog to tank a super-mutant.
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Oct 16, 2015 11:53
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I predict romances will amount to what we saw in Skyrim with the depth of the companions you could have in Fallout 3.
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Oct 16, 2015 11:59
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Crotch Bat posted:Will a GTX 960 2GB with an i7 be good enough for this? I don't really care about ULTRA MAX FULL ON 120FPS poo poo, I just want like 50-60fps steady on maybe high. Even if the devs aren't artificially inflating the specs that should run it fine. Of course, we'll have to see what state it's in after it comes out, that's the biggest question mark.
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Oct 16, 2015 12:02
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i hope theres a ghoulified boston bruin somewhere. hmm maybe an angry finn hiding in a fort fo milkcrates maybe?
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Vikar Jerome posted:this is whats keeping from going through fo1 and 2 right now, knowing it will just make whatever poo poo awaits in fo4 that much shitter. i really hope i'm wrong though. I'm playing through F1 right now and the new dialog cannot be be worse than that.
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Oct 16, 2015 13:52
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The subtitle of the launch thread will probably be HATE NEWSPAPERS and it will probably be entirely deserved. Honestly, if the game just gives us enough weird novelty to the quests and gently caress with the game's systems in silly ways, I'll be happy. Bethesda can't hope to make plain decent writing without making a fool of themselves, so it's probably best they just embrace the weird and outlandish and make something interesting out of that. That's kind of why I like the previews, if they had just navel-gazed about how cool their plot will be at E3, I wouldn't have cared at all, but showing all the weird equipment customization and settlement building stuff in the way they did made me think, okay, they might not write this well, but I am pretty psyched about screwing with these weirdass systems.
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Oct 16, 2015 15:12
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Bholder posted:I'm playing through F1 right now and the new dialog cannot be be worse than that. I've finished F1 and honestly didn't see what the worship around it was about. Granted I was a bit sour about it because I tagged Science, which I don't think I used once, and Energy Weapons which I only saw one available to buy in the farthest town from the start 
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Bholder posted:I'm playing through F1 right now and the new dialog cannot be be worse than that. You disappoint me on so many levels.
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Oct 16, 2015 17:14
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SunAndSpring posted:You disappoint me on so many levels. Fallout 4 release title.
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Oct 16, 2015 17:19
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Which particular exchanges in FO are bad? I don't really remember any bad dialog, let alone a pattern of it.
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Oct 16, 2015 17:25
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Seashell Salesman posted:Which particular exchanges in FO are bad? I don't really remember any bad dialog, let alone a pattern of it. 
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Seashell Salesman posted:Which particular exchanges in FO are bad? I don't really remember any bad dialog, let alone a pattern of it. The last time I played I was surprised how often prompts with only one choice popped up. Didn't really remember that.
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Crotch Bat posted:Will a GTX 960 2GB with an i7 be good enough for this? I don't really care about ULTRA MAX FULL ON 120FPS poo poo, I just want like 50-60fps steady on maybe high. It's really hard to tell but I suspect you will be fine. Posts like these are almost impossible to assist with because there is a lot more than those two components that go into a games performance. 960 isn't great but I have a 970 and have no issues with current games. Edit: gently caress me for keeping tabs open.
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Oct 16, 2015 18:02
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You need intelligence for that one. On a side note of mods, there going to be so much dog sex and you know it. It will be disgusting. It will make skyrim mods look like disney land.
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FlyingCheese posted:At this point most game developers have automated lip movement software that uses on the audio to generate the animations, which allows for lip sync in any language without additional animating work. Yeah and thats fine. Thats not what was being talked about though.
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Inzombiac posted:It's really hard to tell but I suspect you will be fine. Posts like these are almost impossible to assist with because there is a lot more than those two components that go into a games performance. 960 isn't great but I have a 970 and have no issues with current games. poo poo, my 750 ti can handle current games just fine as long as I don't let my eyes get too big and keep them off ultra-everything
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Magmarashi posted:poo poo, my 750 ti can handle current games just fine as long as I don't let my eyes get too big and keep them off ultra-everything same - althoug I'm planning on getting a new GPU when FO4 comes out I have a 4790k though which helps depending on the game. Armchair Calvinist posted:I have a 3570k with a gtx 980 and am fairly certain that no amount of PC will fix Bethesda Stutter™ I played Oblivion the other day with my 4790k with 8gb of RAM and a GPU that was made years after the fact and it was still stuttering quite a bit. Granted I had some mods but drat. Although to be fair Skyrim runs better on my PC with a similar amount of mods so who knows.
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Moridin920 posted:same - althoug I'm planning on getting a new GPU when FO4 comes out Given that the mods could be wildly different and it's across two versions of an engine, you are correct that you have learned absolutely nothing by comparing the two.
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Gyrotica posted:Given that the mods could be wildly different and it's across two versions of an engine, you are correct that you have learned absolutely nothing by comparing the two. Yeah I'm just talkin about some texture mods that aren't crazy HD 4068x4068 textures though. You are right though but whatever 
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I have a 2 year old i7-4770K CPU that's still holding it's own as well as as 780 Ti that can run most games on their highest settings without problem (but drat does it get hot). I think the bigger issue will be people keeping their drivers up-to-date to avoid another RAGE launch debacle - that game got a lot of flak at launch for issues related to outdated drivers for most cards. It will also be interesting to see if Bethesda has expanded the number of graphical options you can fiddle with or if they're sticking to their bare bones launcher (I can take a while guess as to which...). There's a lot of stuff that you can tack on for minimal improvements in how things look but tax your system way more than you think it would. Just being able to turn a lot of useless poo poo down or off should lower the requirements considerably. The near identical minimum and recommended specs do make me skeptical on what will be available to people without having to pull config files apart though, or how much you can actually change since I imagine most of the game has been geared to run at max on consoles so there's not a whole lot available to change.
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As long as I can just wander around looting everything in sight then I'll be happy. That's really the most fun part of Bethesda games anyway, killing some bandits then scoping out all the stuff you want to take back to your base. Quests are just a way to get you new stuff to loot.
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Mordaedil posted:I predict romances will amount to what we saw in Skyrim with the depth of the companions you could have in Fallout 3.
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Oct 16, 2015 19:10
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oc 2500 with a 290x. Im sure I can push the eye candy and what not. Cpu has been a stagnant market for a while.
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Oct 16, 2015 19:33
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Not sure if joking, but that screenshot is actually from the third game, not the first one.
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Psychotic Weasel posted:I have a 2 year old i7-4770K CPU that's still holding it's own as well as as 780 Ti that can run most games on their highest settings without problem (but drat does it get hot). I think the bigger issue will be people keeping their drivers up-to-date to avoid another RAGE launch debacle - that game got a lot of flak at launch for issues related to outdated drivers for most cards. Nothing to do with outdated drivers. I had to deal with that mess. I had the latest drivers, but it took AMD 2 - 3 driver releases to get their act together. A Fallout 4 hardware question - all else equal, which is more important, GPU or CPU?
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Shroud posted:Nothing to do with outdated drivers. I had to deal with that mess. I had the latest drivers, but it took AMD 2 - 3 driver releases to get their act together. Seems most games are way more reliant on GPU these days.
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Oct 16, 2015 20:13
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"I was watching Indiana Jones and The Crystal Skull which I don't plan on doing again..." 
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Seashell Salesman posted:Not sure if joking, but that screenshot is actually from the third game, not the first one. Sorry, wasn't joking, just thought the topic was lovely fallout dialogue in general rather than just the first game. Although I can't recall any FO1 dialogue standing out as especially bad.
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Oct 16, 2015 21:00
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Can't wait for Tale of Three Wastelands with FO3, NV and FO4 merged.
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Someone find a way to integrate the Elder Scrolls games too, and we can have Tale of Todd Howard
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The Mashed Potato Face Multiverse
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boneration posted:Sorry, wasn't joking, just thought the topic was lovely fallout dialogue in general rather than just the first game. Although I can't recall any FO1 dialogue standing out as especially bad. Well if you picked a very low intelligence in fo1-2 your conversation choices were quite comical. But that wasnt really a lazy thing, it was a clever thing because you choose to have your character be a dunce.  Rest for if people want to actually read some fallout info Low Intelligence characters Fallout 1 & 2 When the player character in Fallout and Fallout 2 has less than 4 Intelligence, the biggest change in gameplay is undoubtedly the dialogue. Upon reaching Shady Sands, the villagers take pity on the Vault Dweller, and Aradesh will simply shrug them off. The best they can speak is half-word sentences or gibberish. The real downside, though, is the nigh impossibility to do about 90% of the side quests. No one will talk to a moron or even give them the time of day (even though it can be seen on the Pip-Boy 2000). In Fallout 2, the Chosen One may meet Torr, the "town simpleton of Klamath," who would normally give them a quest to under go protection of his brahmin against "the evil bugmen." He will appear highly intelligent as if slightly smarter, and being stupid as a culture and language all its own. Two flat-headed people can have a complete, thought-provoking, and fully articulated conversation between them. Another person one may have an "intelligent" conversation with in Fallout 2 is AHS-9, who becomes able to understand what the Chosen One tries to say after the alignment, and gives the quest to kill the Shi Emperor. When talking to Algernon in the basement of New Reno Arms, the Chosen One can start a "childhood cop and robbers" type dialog in which they accidentally shoot and kill him. A character with a low Intelligence is unable to gamble. When they observe a roulette table or a slot machine, the character will respond to it as a fun toy or an interactive character, respectively. Visiting a craps table will result in a dumb Chosen One commenting to the dealer that they "play craps in pants". Fallout 3 In Fallout 3, there are conversation situations where characters with low Intelligence are granted other dialog options, often relating to their low intellect. However, these options are few and far between, unlike the other Fallout games where one could play the entire game as a person without Intelligence. One instance is in Roosevelt Academy, where if the Lone Wanderer activates Dean Dewey while having an Intelligence below 4, he will deem them a "special needs" child, and escort them to a "proper room." Fallout: New Vegas In addition to alternative Intelligence checks, low Intelligence changes some dialog options when speaking to vendors and non-player characters. For example, when speaking to Miguel at Miguel's Pawn Shop, the option to start trading is "Me buy things," and when speaking with Dr. Usanagi at the New Vegas medical clinic, after she gives the Courier the initial description about implants they get the dialogue option "You sell plants, too?", which will make her to re-explain the implants and suggest [the player character] take the implant to make them smarter. If taking her up on this deal, she will state that she thinks the Courier "could really benefit from it," and offer the implant at a discount. In place of the gibberish of past games, however, the player character will simply not completely understand a conversation, confuse what someone is saying with something else entirely, or not understand what situation they are currently in. In the REPCONN headquarters, for example, a character with an IN of < 3 can bypass a robot that demands a password by saying "ICE CREAM!" Normally, a Luck of at least 7 would be needed to guess this. Low-intelligence characters attempting to do the quest That Lucky Old Sun will be granted several unique and highly entertaining dialog options when conversing with Fantastic and Ignacio Rivas. An example is when informed about the hostilities between the Followers and the NCR, the Courier can ask, "Do Flowers and NCR bear play together?" When first speaking to Ranger Milo he will inform the Courier that some "Legion snakes" are held up in Nelson, to which they can respond "Snakes are small. Why don't you just use a gun or whatever to shoot them." He will then call them a "special folk," and explain that they are not really snakes but "like snakes." While helping Argyll in Nellis medical station while doing the quest Volare!, the Courier is given an option to "CHOP CHOP CHOP!" instead of giving him treatment. Ironically, the Courier actually saves the patient and Argyll comments on it, saying it was "dumb luck." Tenzarin fucked around with this message at 22:36 on Oct 16, 2015 |
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Bholder posted:I'm playing through F1 right now and the new dialog cannot be be worse than that.
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Bholder post your characters intelligence! you have been called out!
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