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What's the verdict on the Lenovo Yoga 500? I found one with decent specs for a reasonable price but I don't think I've seen any mention of it.
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dominoeffect posted:How would this laptop be for moderate gaming / development? I don't know why you're looking at the 510p, it's a generation old at this point. In any event get a laptop with a 960m or better if the purpose of your machine is gaming. You won't get acceptable performance out of much else. Notebook check has excellent pages with benchmarks for a bunch of games. Just a caveat though, their medium/low settings are not 1080p and their high settings tend to be optimistic.
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The Iron Rose posted:I don't know why you're looking at the 510p, it's a generation old at this point. I'm not looking to max out the most recent games. I was reading around and found that the 860m is only slightly lower than the 960m. Then I found the n550jk, which has an 850m and better price, still has decent benchmarks on games according to notebook check. Do you have any experience with the 850m? Edit: nevermind, it seems the 850m is ddr3 not ddr5 dominoeffect fucked around with this message at 17:41 on Oct 17, 2015 |
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Oct 17, 2015 17:38
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So when are the good computers coming out??
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The Iron Rose posted:In any event get a laptop with a 960m or better if the purpose of your machine is gaming. You won't get acceptable performance out of much else. I haven't yet played a game that isn't totally smooth at 1080p with high quality settings on my 860m laptop (Lenovo Y50), but probably the most demanding thing I've played on it is Dishonored, so I'm not really doing cutting edge. I *assume* that I could play cutting edge games on lower settings, which I would totally still find acceptable.
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There's a refurb T450 on the Lenovo outlet right now that has a i5-5200u processor and HD5500 graphics. It's about $635. I'm considering pulling the trigger...should I? It seems to have everything I'm looking for.
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Oct 17, 2015 19:34
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Mu Zeta posted:What is the display? Direct from the site: "14.0" HD WXGA (1366 X 768) LED". There's also another one that has a "14.0" HD WXGA (1366 X 768) LED Backlight w/ 720p HD Camera" but that's $140 more.
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Oct 17, 2015 19:55
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Both are really, really bad displays. Like, those are displays that my iBook from 2002 had.
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Mu Zeta posted:Both are really, really bad displays. Like, those are displays that my iBook from 2002 had. I honestly didn't think about that. Then I should be looking for higher resolutions, right?
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dominoeffect posted:I'm not looking to max out the most recent games. I was reading around and found that the 860m is only slightly lower than the 960m. Then I found the n550jk, which has an 850m and better price, still has decent benchmarks on games according to notebook check. Do you have any experience with the 850m? I've had one for a little over a year now. You're correct it has the cheap DDR3 version of the 850M but despite that it has coped a bit better than what I expected as far as gaming goes - sure you won't be maxing out graphics settings but at this proce range you need to temper your expectations. My main complaints are 1/ Keyboard is mushy and unpleasant, 2/ Despite the screen being IPS it suffers dramatic brightness dropoff if you look at it at an angle. It doesn't help that the backlight is rather dim.
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Cialis Railman posted:I honestly didn't think about that. Then I should be looking for higher resolutions, right? Edit: If you're an Oldy McOldpants like me then this probably seems weird because 1024x768 was just fine back in the day, and even 320x200 was totally usable, further back. The thing is that back then things were designed for that kind of display, and now things are purposely *not* designed for that kind of display, so even though things totally could be usable at that resolution, they aren't. roomforthetuna fucked around with this message at 00:10 on Oct 18, 2015 |
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Oct 17, 2015 22:56
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1600x900 is even just barely usable in my own experience with a 14" laptop. 1366x768 is just trash and the viewing angles are probably bad.
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Viewing angles have nothing to do with resolution. With the ThinkPads you really want an IPS panel - they basic TN ones (which it will be if not otherwise stated) are trash (the one exception is the FHD TN 15.6" panel on the T520/530 which is supposed to be okayish)
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dissss posted:Viewing angles have nothing to do with resolution.
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DrDork posted:Technically true, but I challenge you to find me a currently produced 1366x768 panel above 11" that isn't poo poo. And even most of the 11" ones are poo poo, too. The X250 has an IPS 1366x768 display available (only with touch unfortunately) With Windows scaling the way it is 1080p on a 12.5" screen is just too much for a lot of people
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Well you got me there--I thought that the X250 only had IPS options on the 1080p. Either way, I stand by my assertion that 99+% of all 1366x768 panels are poo poo-class TN's these days; you have to get into some special-snowflake niches to find ones that aren't, so it's generally safe to assume that if you see one, you should probably pick something different. Unless you're just looking for a cheap beater, I guess.
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Oct 18, 2015 07:15
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It's really loving annoying that the industry settled on x768 as the low-end standard and has stayed there for so long. Enough things just don't work at that level. x900 should be the minimum.
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Oct 18, 2015 07:49
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MikeJF posted:x900 should be the minimum. Doesn't work on smaller screens for a lot of people
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dissss posted:Doesn't work on smaller screens for a lot of people Neither does a bunch of software not showing the whole window. If you can't handle x900 on a smaller screen, honestly, you should look into a bigger laptop.
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Oct 18, 2015 08:27
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Hadlock posted:A couple senior managers have E7XXX laptops and from what little I've played around with them they are really nice yeah. Dell's high end stuff has gotten really good post-2012. I just got an E7250 for work, it is pretty nice but the keyboard is a really shallow travel one. Not a patch on my X230.
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it's dumb how "full HD" being 1920*1080 (sadly not 1920*1200 you goddamn cheap widescreen selling bastards  ) lead to everyone thinking of it as a gold standard for premium hardware instead of the bare minimum for anything larger than a phone.
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MikeJF posted:Neither does a bunch of software not showing the whole window. If you can't handle x900 on a smaller screen, honestly, you should look into a bigger laptop. this
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blowfish posted:it's dumb how "full HD" being 1920*1080 (sadly not 1920*1200 you goddamn cheap widescreen selling bastards I'm coming off a Chromebook and I'm still getting used to the 1080p screen on my Thinkpad X250. I feel like an old person, I'm struggling to read stuff on it.
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I think HD+ (1600x900) is better for 12" than a FullHD panel. I don't think FullHD makes sense until you get to the 13.3" panels, but that's probably just me.
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GrizzlyCow posted:I think HD+ (1600x900) is better for 12" than a FullHD panel. I don't think FullHD makes sense until you get to the 13.3" panels, but that's probably just me. That really depends on the operating system and the programs you are using. Pixels and MBPs both use high resolution displays in there smaller form factors. After using a Pixel the 1080 IPS screen on my work thinkpad looks like crap. That said trying to run some terrible windows form business applications on one of those high dpi screens would be horrible.
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MikeJF posted:Neither does a bunch of software not showing the whole window. If you can't handle x900 on a smaller screen, honestly, you should look into a bigger laptop. I haven't run across anything like that lately - yes 1366*768 looks ugly but the fact is the vast majority of Laptops still ship that way and most software is designed accordingly
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Philip Rivers posted:I feel like an old person, I'm struggling to read stuff on it.
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Oct 18, 2015 22:03
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turns out my battery sprung a small leak and leaked on the motherboard thank god for warranties!!!!1
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Should I be excited about the Surface Book, or should I be looking elsewhere for the best use of Skylake?
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ETB posted:Should I be excited about the Surface Book, or should I be looking elsewhere for the best use of Skylake? Any games it cant play on its own can be steam streamed I suppose. I should do some testing on that.
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Hmm, I might end up cancelling my Microsoft Store preorder of the XPS 15 and go through Dell instead. I don't know how I missed it, but the 4K version they have on there is the non touch one, despite costing slightly more than the equivalent touch version on the Dell website (slightly less with the student discount which is why I went with MS but...yeah). Seems like a bit of an oversight on their part. Like before the discount we're talking $200 more for a less functional machine... Unless I'm missing something?
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Trebuchet King posted:turns out my battery sprung a small leak and leaked on the motherboard This was a Gigabyte P34G-v2 ?
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For what it's worth, my P34G-v1 is still going strong. The worst I can say for it is that the keyboard feels pretty cheap for a $1000+ machine, the battery life is bad (3ish hours, but this was pre-Haswell so...), and it now has some dents in it because of the wife. The screen is still gorgeous, and a 760M with an i7 still makes for a pretty competent mobile gaming laptop, even two generations behind.
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Hadlock posted:This was a Gigabyte P34G-v2 ? Yup! I forget my exact customizations but I've submitted my RMA thing. I don't know what this acronym means...replacement/maintenance application? I had never seen one of these polymer batteries before, either. It seems like a neat concept but I might shy away from it in the future. The laptop itself is almost exactly a year and a half old. Well, a year and a half since I ordered it, at least. edit: and yeah, aside from this i've been immensely pleased with it. DA:I looked great, got excellent FPS on what MMOs I indulged in, and when it was time to knuckle down and type poo poo it held up great and didn't feel weirdly arranged. Trebuchet King fucked around with this message at 05:08 on Oct 19, 2015 |
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Mr Luxury Yacht posted:Unless I'm missing something? No touchscreen = a more functional system. Not that you should have to pay more to have it left out.
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I think RMA stands for return to manufacturer authorization, so the loading dock knows what to do with it when it arrives.
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Trebuchet King posted:Yup! I forget my exact customizations but I've submitted my RMA thing. I don't know what this acronym means...replacement/maintenance application? Trebuchet King posted:I had never seen one of these polymer batteries before, either. It seems like a neat concept but I might shy away from it in the future.
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Mr Luxury Yacht posted:Hmm, I might end up cancelling my Microsoft Store preorder of the XPS 15 and go through Dell instead. I don't think there is a non-touch version of the 4k display for the XPS 15. It's probably an oversight on Microsoft's site. In related news, I just went whole hog on a new XPS 15. 4k display, 16gb ram, i7, and 512gb SSD. This will replace my y410p which I barely use because I find the display so repulsive and it may even replace my desktop (until Oculus comes out and I buy a better video card.) 11/25 estimated arrival date. I'm hoping Dell's usual pessimistic estimates are in play here. But at least that will give me some time to unload the y410p. bull3964 fucked around with this message at 06:29 on Oct 19, 2015 |
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So I'm deploying early next year and would like to have a good laptop to play games on. I'm not too concerned about money as it'll probably be one of my only expenses all year so I'm probably okay paying about ~1500, maybe more if it's totally-the-best-deal-ever. I say games because I'll be doing a lot of other stuff on it too, and I'll play games sometimes, but I'd like to have the freedom to play what I want and have it perform well. The only stipulation is that it doesn't look like one of those retarded ULTRAEDGY ALIENWARE RAZER laptops - I'm not 15 anymore. Although I guess if it does have a stupid logo I could just place electrical tape over it so it doesn't annoy me.
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